FCC NPRM 700 MHz Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
FCC 06-34 WT Docket 96-86 The Development of Operational, Technical and Spectrum Requirements for Meeting Federal, State and Local Public Safety Communications Requirements Through the Year 2010 In this Eighth Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (Eighth NPRM), we seek comment on whether certain channels within the current twenty-four megahertz of public safety spectrum in the 700 MHz public safety band (764-776 MHz and 794-806 MHz), should be modified to accommodate broadband communications. This action is consistent with national priorities focusing on homeland security and broadband and our commitment to ensure that emergency first responders have access reliable and interoperable communications. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-34A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-34A1.doc Chaiman Martin Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-34A2.pdf Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon Got the proceeding numbers for those? thanks, marlon Patrick Leary wrote: Let's make it a 5 radio product J They have 2 groups selling into the PS space, their networking practice and their government practice. Sometimes they even compete against themselves. But they sure do bring lots of brand equity into the PS wireless battle, what with all those years selling two-way radios. For wonks, it is really fascinating following all the happenings in that space. And it gets even more interesting with the FCC's recent 700MHz NPRM. Moto has lots to gain if the FCC chooses to adopt a standard like SAM to promote interoperability. Lucent wants it to go CDMA so the can sell their EVDO. Both want some of the current wideband allocations reconfigured to include three 1.25MHz wide channels for mobile broadband. The FCC is asking for comments from the public on both the Moto and Lucent proposals, as well as their own ideas. Comment due date is, I recall, May 16 with rebuttals by June 16. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 *From:* Dylan Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:52 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon Is the three-radio product you mention actually the four-radio product I referred to, or something else? On 4/18/06, *Patrick Leary* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is no surprise and was largely expected back when they began to OEM them back in January of 2005. No way they'll buy Tropos. Moto already bought Mesh Networks and currently fields a three-radio product for the public safety side on the muniwireless market. Earthlink is the one that has Moto and Tropos together; it is not Moto making the call to use tropos. -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LL -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: FCC NPRM 700 MHz Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
I don't think this really applies to us. The 24mhz is already allocated and off the table for our use. However, it does seem to me that the band usage etc. should be left up to the end user. The FCC should just allocate the band and let the market decide how to use it. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:59 AM Subject: FCC NPRM 700 MHz Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon FCC 06-34 WT Docket 96-86 The Development of Operational, Technical and Spectrum Requirements for Meeting Federal, State and Local Public Safety Communications Requirements Through the Year 2010 In this Eighth Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (Eighth NPRM), we seek comment on whether certain channels within the current twenty-four megahertz of public safety spectrum in the 700 MHz public safety band (764-776 MHz and 794-806 MHz), should be modified to accommodate broadband communications. This action is consistent with national priorities focusing on homeland security and broadband and our commitment to ensure that emergency first responders have access reliable and interoperable communications. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-34A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-34A1.doc Chaiman Martin Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-34A2.pdf Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon Got the proceeding numbers for those? thanks, marlon Patrick Leary wrote: Let's make it a 5 radio product J They have 2 groups selling into the PS space, their networking practice and their government practice. Sometimes they even compete against themselves. But they sure do bring lots of brand equity into the PS wireless battle, what with all those years selling two-way radios. For wonks, it is really fascinating following all the happenings in that space. And it gets even more interesting with the FCC's recent 700MHz NPRM. Moto has lots to gain if the FCC chooses to adopt a standard like SAM to promote interoperability. Lucent wants it to go CDMA so the can sell their EVDO. Both want some of the current wideband allocations reconfigured to include three 1.25MHz wide channels for mobile broadband. The FCC is asking for comments from the public on both the Moto and Lucent proposals, as well as their own ideas. Comment due date is, I recall, May 16 with rebuttals by June 16. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 *From:* Dylan Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:52 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon Is the three-radio product you mention actually the four-radio product I referred to, or something else? On 4/18/06, *Patrick Leary* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is no surprise and was largely expected back when they began to OEM them back in January of 2005. No way they'll buy Tropos. Moto already bought Mesh Networks and currently fields a three-radio product for the public safety side on the muniwireless market. Earthlink is the one that has Moto and Tropos together; it is not Moto making the call to use tropos. -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LL -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: FCC NPRM 700 MHz Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
The FCC should just allocate the band and let the market decide how to use it. Marlon, that might normally be an appropriate tact, but this allocation is not for private use. It is an allocation designated to public safety, as in the safety interests of the general public. And within those interests exist a need for cross regional and cross departmental system interoperability, so that in a crisis groups can effectively communicate. Lack of effective comms between groups like the fire department and the police was identified as a major cause of the deaths of firemen and police officers in NYC (of course after the attack itself being the cause). Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: FCC NPRM 700 MHz Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon I don't think this really applies to us. The 24mhz is already allocated and off the table for our use. However, it does seem to me that the band usage etc. should be left up to the end user. The FCC should just allocate the band and let the market decide how to use it. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:59 AM Subject: FCC NPRM 700 MHz Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon FCC 06-34 WT Docket 96-86 The Development of Operational, Technical and Spectrum Requirements for Meeting Federal, State and Local Public Safety Communications Requirements Through the Year 2010 In this Eighth Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (Eighth NPRM), we seek comment on whether certain channels within the current twenty-four megahertz of public safety spectrum in the 700 MHz public safety band (764-776 MHz and 794-806 MHz), should be modified to accommodate broadband communications. This action is consistent with national priorities focusing on homeland security and broadband and our commitment to ensure that emergency first responders have access reliable and interoperable communications. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-34A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-34A1.doc Chaiman Martin Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-34A2.pdf Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon Got the proceeding numbers for those? thanks, marlon Patrick Leary wrote: Let's make it a 5 radio product J They have 2 groups selling into the PS space, their networking practice and their government practice. Sometimes they even compete against themselves. But they sure do bring lots of brand equity into the PS wireless battle, what with all those years selling two-way radios. For wonks, it is really fascinating following all the happenings in that space. And it gets even more interesting with the FCC's recent 700MHz NPRM. Moto has lots to gain if the FCC chooses to adopt a standard like SAM to promote interoperability. Lucent wants it to go CDMA so the can sell their EVDO. Both want some of the current wideband allocations reconfigured to include three 1.25MHz wide channels for mobile broadband. The FCC is asking for comments from the public on both the Moto and Lucent proposals, as well as their own ideas. Comment due date is, I recall, May 16 with rebuttals by June 16. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 *From:* Dylan Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:52 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon Is the three-radio product you mention actually the four-radio product I referred to, or something else? On 4/18/06, *Patrick Leary* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is no surprise and was largely expected back when they began to OEM them back in January of 2005. No way they'll buy Tropos. Moto already bought Mesh Networks and currently fields a three-radio product for the public safety side on the muniwireless market. Earthlink is the one that has Moto and Tropos together
Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
Begun the OFDM wars have. -Matt P.S. Motorola already tried to buy Tropos, but found they were too expense, which is why they bought Mesh Networks instead. Dylan Oliver wrote: http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1145387747.htm Motorola has been rebranding OS backhauls - now they've bought the company! I wonder if Tropos is next .. and what their plans for the Orthogon Systems group are. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
I wonder what Motorola will decide to do with Mesh. They appear to have three distinct platforms now: HotZone (rebranded Tropos), MOTOMESH (MeshNetworks; not Wi-Fi), and MEA. Or rather MEA radios are included in MOTOMESH 4-radio units? :: A Technical View Of MOTOMESHEvery MOTOMESH access point contains two standards-based 802.11 (Wi-Fi) radios and two of Motorola's widely acclaimed Mesh Enabled Architecture (MEA) mobile broadband radios. One set of Wi-Fi and MEA radios operate in the unlicensed 2.4GHz band, and one set operates in the licensed 4.9GHz public safety band.Oh, I get it (I think). MEA provides backhaul between mesh units, while the 802.11 serve the public. Anyone ever hear of how this platform actually performs? I wonder why Motorola isn't pushing these harder. Has Tropos so stolen the thunder they can't properly market their own solution? Canopy™ HotZone* is a dedicated solution for communities concerned primarily with improving public Internet access and eliminating the digital divide. Combining unlicensed standards-based WiFi radios and Canopy system backhaul to support the cost-effective deployment of wide area broadband wireless. HotZone solutions offer remarkable efficient and cost-effective public access capabilities. Click to see how it works. Motorola's MOTOMESH™ multi-radio broadband solution, whose architecture supports up to four radio (2.4 4.9 GHz) networks in a single access point, enables complete municipal-wide wireless connectivity for public access, public works and public safety. Motorola's Mesh Enable Architecture (MEA) technology is a private mobile broadband solution that delivers desktop applications into the field at highway speeds. The MEA network features Motorola's unique Multi-Hopping capabilities turning each mesh-enable radio into a router/repeater. As a result, every user makes the network stronger. * HotZone is powered by Tropos MetroMesh.Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
This is no surprise and was largely expected back when they began to OEM them back in January of 2005. No way they'll buy Tropos. Moto already bought Mesh Networks and currently fields a three-radio product for the public safety side on the muniwireless market. Earthlink is the one that has Moto and Tropos together; it is not Moto making the call to use tropos. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 From: Dylan Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1145387747.htm Motorola has been rebranding OS backhauls - now they've bought the company! I wonder if Tropos is next .. and what their plans for the Orthogon Systems group are. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
Is the three-radio product you mention actually the four-radio product I referred to, or something else?On 4/18/06, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is no surprise and was largely expected back when they began to OEM them back in January of 2005. No way they'll buy Tropos. Moto already bought Mesh Networks and currently fields a three-radio product for the public safety side on the muniwireless market. Earthlink is the one that has Moto and Tropos together; it is not Moto making the call to use tropos.-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
Let's make it a 5 radio product J They have 2 groups selling into the PS space, their networking practice and their government practice. Sometimes they even compete against themselves. But they sure do bring lots of brand equity into the PS wireless battle, what with all those years selling two-way radios. For wonks, it is really fascinating following all the happenings in that space. And it gets even more interesting with the FCC's recent 700MHz NPRM. Moto has lots to gain if the FCC chooses to adopt a standard like SAM to promote interoperability. Lucent wants it to go CDMA so the can sell their EVDO. Both want some of the current wideband allocations reconfigured to include three 1.25MHz wide channels for mobile broadband. The FCC is asking for comments from the public on both the Moto and Lucent proposals, as well as their own ideas. Comment due date is, I recall, May 16 with rebuttals by June 16. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 From: Dylan Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon Is the three-radio product you mention actually the four-radio product I referred to, or something else? On 4/18/06, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is no surprise and was largely expected back when they began to OEM them back in January of 2005. No way they'll buy Tropos. Moto already bought Mesh Networks and currently fields a three-radio product for the public safety side on the muniwireless market. Earthlink is the one that has Moto and Tropos together; it is not Moto making the call to use tropos. -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
Got the proceeding numbers for those? thanks, marlon Patrick Leary wrote: Let's make it a 5 radio product J They have 2 groups selling into the PS space, their networking practice and their government practice. Sometimes they even compete against themselves. But they sure do bring lots of brand equity into the PS wireless battle, what with all those years selling two-way radios. For wonks, it is really fascinating following all the happenings in that space. And it gets even more interesting with the FCC's recent 700MHz NPRM. Moto has lots to gain if the FCC chooses to adopt a standard like SAM to promote interoperability. Lucent wants it to go CDMA so the can sell their EVDO. Both want some of the current wideband allocations reconfigured to include three 1.25MHz wide channels for mobile broadband. The FCC is asking for comments from the public on both the Moto and Lucent proposals, as well as their own ideas. Comment due date is, I recall, May 16 with rebuttals by June 16. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 *From:* Dylan Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:52 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon Is the three-radio product you mention actually the four-radio product I referred to, or something else? On 4/18/06, *Patrick Leary* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is no surprise and was largely expected back when they began to OEM them back in January of 2005. No way they'll buy Tropos. Moto already bought Mesh Networks and currently fields a three-radio product for the public safety side on the muniwireless market. Earthlink is the one that has Moto and Tropos together; it is not Moto making the call to use tropos. -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LL -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
