Re: OFFLIST - Was [WISPA] Pigtails..... and 5.8GHz low power....

2006-02-27 Thread Blair Davis

Jack,

For myself, loss, physical integrity and possibly swr.

Others might have other things to add.

My own testing here with a repeatable lash up of my own devising has 
shown some pigtails being 12db! down from apparently identical 
pigtails. 

While I can not be sure of the absolute loss in db with my test rig, 
unit-to-unit variance should not be over 1db, IMHO.


Jack Unger wrote:


Hey Blair,

You've given me an idea or two -

1. Maybe I could find a cable vendor who will sell pre-certified 5.8 
GHz pigtails.


2. Maybe I should offer to sell certified 5.8 cables myself.

What qualities would you want tested and certified - just dB loss?

How much do you think the industry would be willing to pay for a 
tested and certified 5.8 GHz pigtail compared to the cost of 
non-certified pigtails?


Thanks,
jack

Blair Davis wrote:

After discovering a 5db variance in the pigtails I have when tested 
at 5.8GHz, I am looking for a source of pigtails that are 100% tested 
and certified at 5.8GHz.


I need mmcx to N-Female and u.fl to N-Female.  6-12 inch lengths will 
be fine.

Any recommendations?

PS:  This pigtail problem is why my further report on 5.8GHz 
performance is being delayed..







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Re: OFFLIST - Was [WISPA] Pigtails..... and 5.8GHz low power....

2006-02-27 Thread Blair Davis

Jack,

When a dropping the pigtail off the desk breaks the connection to the 
N-Femail connector, that is just not acceptable.


SWR should be low if loss is low, but, I have a pigtail here that is 
asymmetrical  more loss on tx than on rx.In my experience, at 
lower frequencies, that is a symptom of an swr problem.  I'm not sure 
about at microwave frequencies, but I would assume that swr works the 
same there


Pricing?   I'm not good at that, but, say a 50% premium over standard 
units?  I'd pay that just to stop hand sorting them.


But, one thing here  If these are to be advertised and sold as 100% 
tested and certified, they had better be that.  The first bad one a 
customer gets will really mess up the marketing.


Consistently is a major issue.  It would be nice to know that the 
pigtail will insert no more than say .75db of loss  or, each pigtail 
is labeled with it's tested loss.





Jack Unger wrote:


Blair,

So it sounds like you would like

1. Consistent, low-loss
2. Connectors that don't pull off easily (although tiny connectors are 
always going to be easy to damage)
3. Low SWR (if the loss is low, that already confirms that the SWR is 
low)


How should these be priced compared to non-certified cables?

Thanks,
jack


Blair Davis wrote:


Jack,

For myself, loss, physical integrity and possibly swr.

Others might have other things to add.

My own testing here with a repeatable lash up of my own devising has 
shown some pigtails being 12db! down from apparently identical 
pigtails.
While I can not be sure of the absolute loss in db with my test rig, 
unit-to-unit variance should not be over 1db, IMHO.


Jack Unger wrote:


Hey Blair,

You've given me an idea or two -

1. Maybe I could find a cable vendor who will sell pre-certified 5.8 
GHz pigtails.


2. Maybe I should offer to sell certified 5.8 cables myself.

What qualities would you want tested and certified - just dB loss?

How much do you think the industry would be willing to pay for a 
tested and certified 5.8 GHz pigtail compared to the cost of 
non-certified pigtails?


Thanks,
jack

Blair Davis wrote:

After discovering a 5db variance in the pigtails I have when 
tested at 5.8GHz, I am looking for a source of pigtails that are 
100% tested and certified at 5.8GHz.


I need mmcx to N-Female and u.fl to N-Female.  6-12 inch lengths 
will be fine.

Any recommendations?

PS:  This pigtail problem is why my further report on 5.8GHz 
performance is being delayed..












--
Blair Davis

AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240

West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

A division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC

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