Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Michael Heth
On Jan 25, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Dan Stein wrote: I would very very be interested and would be willing to pay Ben for help. I would still work in WT where I can but wold love to do more PHP if I had those tools that are some familiar to me in Witango Looks like this concept (all I could rememb

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive? Other IDE Prototyping and Porting systems.

2008-01-25 Thread Robert Garcia
That is very cool, especially with the number languages it outputs to. I have looked at many of these, and the only problem I have had, is they almost always use old php 4 code, and older methods to connect to mysql. Over time, I am guessing more of them will catch up. I only felt compelled

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Dan Stein
I would very very be interested and would be willing to pay Ben for help. I would still work in WT where I can but wold love to do more PHP if I had those tools that are some familiar to me in Witango. Dan -- Dan Stein FileMaker 7 Certified Developer Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive? Other IDE Prototyping and Porting systems.

2008-01-25 Thread Brian Mowers
Alan, Have you heard of CodeCharge Studio? This Development Environment allows you to do just that. You can rapidly develop an application with their IDE then "port" over to the following languages: All of the following: ASP (VBScript), .NET (C#), .NET (VB), PHP, ColdFusion, Perl, Java Servlet

RE: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Walker, Buddy
I'm here and still using WiTango... -Original Message- From: Scott Cadillac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:03 PM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive? > Maybe "no news is good news" as far as the list being quiet. > > Nobod

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Jesse Parker
What license do we want? -- Original Message -- From: "Mikal Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: witango-talk@witango.com Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:42:47 -0800 >Present and lurking . . . > >Talked to Phil last week, asked him the status of v6. His rep

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Robert Garcia
I could see how someone could take my framework, and then build on it, and then export witango to php code. Prototyping in witango is great. But no one is going to do it, unless they already own witango. There is really no compelling reason to buy into it, so expensive, for prototyping. So

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Dan Stein
Present and still working with Witango. Still the best IDE around but oh how I want 6 and the end of the bugs in 5.5 -- Dan Stein FileMaker 7 Certified Developer Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle Telford PA 18969 Land: 215-799-0192 Cell: 610-256-2843 FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000, MyS

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Scott Cadillac
Good on you Chuck, .NET is sweet. The learning curve can be steep, but the payoff just keeps paying :-) All the best to everyone. Scott, Sent from my iPod On 25-Jan-08, at 7:48 PM, "Chuck Lockwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm here, supporting a couple of big Witango apps and doing new

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread WebDude
I have been asking for this functionality for the past few years, I was told that it was in the works, but that was about two years ago. I was really interested in the ability to export as asp/asp.net and php. -Original message- From: "Alan Wolfe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Jan 200

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Alan Wolfe
A lot of people have talked about how you can use witango to rapidly prototype code, or rapidly develop web apps, and other people have talked about how expensive it is to use witango. I really like how witango has the ability to export as java and IMO it seems like there might be a really good st

RE: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Chuck Lockwood
I'm here, supporting a couple of big Witango apps and doing new stuff in .NET I agree with Rick, the list is now seasoned developers no longer pushing the "witango envelope". Nice to see people checking in though Chuck Lockwood LockData Technologies -Original Message- From: Scott C

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Mikal Anderson
Present and lurking . . . Talked to Phil last week, asked him the status of v6. His reply was "Stay tune. We're going to be changing the licensing soon." Perhaps someone here can interpret this cryptic reply?. Beyond that he wouldn't comment & did not answer the status question. For What

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Robert Garcia
Witango doesn't port easily, untll you build the framework to build php code like witango does, using resultsets and array manipulation. If you don't do that first, its very tough, and I can see the frustration. Here is an example of a class function in php that takes a mysqli connector and

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Robert Garcia
I have toyed with the best way to do that. I have built a forum for people to discuss the issues of witango porting to php, and a place to view code snippets and frameworks we have built. But its purely a volunteer thing, and so hard to find the time. I have been thinking about it more, and

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Michael Heth
On Jan 25, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Kent Swisher wrote: To Robert Garcia I have started developing in PHP but find it very slow to develop compared to witango. The old witango builder wizard worked for 80% of our stuff and I really miss it in PHP. Has anyone given much (any) thought to the con

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Robert Garcia
Just a quick vote for php/mysql. The newer mysqli extension to php is an unbelievable combination that allows super fast performance and keeps your mysql servers breathing easier than it would with persistent connections. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Devel

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Kent Swisher
To Robert Garcia I have started developing in PHP but find it very slow to develop compared to witango. The old witango builder wizard worked for 80% of our stuff and I really miss it in PHP. Did you ever publish your white paper on how to convert witango to Zend PHP? Would you consider sh

RE: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Fogelson, Steve
We are still developing using Witango. I have had phone and email contact with Phil in the last couple months and purchased another license recently. I didn't ask Phil about 6.0 as I had some other issues I needed help with so I can't help there. I also am anticipating the 6.0 release Steve

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Susan Brkich
I'm only here just in case something breaks we have delayed upgrading to a new server machine (and now I suppose we have to think about going from Tiger to Leopard, too), until we can re-write all our Witango apps in PHP w/ either FileMaker or MySQL databases, in order to avoid having t

Re: Re(2): Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Robert Garcia
Thats not a good sign. Present. Still have 2 large clients on witango, one is already being ported to Zend/PHP, the other looks like it will go this year. The thing is, even if witango gets v6 out the door, it has become SO FAR BEHIND when it comes to features and reliability. Then couple t

Re: RE(1): Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Shane Pearlman
second that. Not giving up totally but from a business standpoint, having no community of jr's to pull from is a serious issue. I do know a few shops that roll their own by converting php coders. Frankly in out case, it just doesn't seem to be viable to have to take that approach. On Jan

RE: RE(1): Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Rick Sanders
Unfortunately the list is quiet because we are all senior developers and have been using the product for a very long time. The list would have life if we had new developers using the product. WiTango hasn't done any marketing or advertising to go out and get new developers to use the product. Beca

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread William M Conlon
Back in May, I assembled my full list of feature requests (11 pages) and sent them to Phil. My fantasy is that Witango 6 is delayed while he implements them. Bill On Jan 25, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Scott Cadillac wrote: Maybe "no news is good news" as far as the list being quiet. Nobody is re

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Roland Gimpl
Hello, we do a lot of coding in Witango, which works very fine for us; presently my biggest wish is a IIS-Plugin for 64-bit! Roland Beverly Voth wrote: On 1/25/08 3:03 PM, "Scott Cadillac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole or in part: Either that or everybody else has left... Maybe we

Re(2): Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Bob Parks
On 1/25/08, Scott Cadillac wrote: >Maybe we should have a roll-call? I am here, and trying to decide if I should update my Tango 2 and 3 apps to Witango.. but I could not get a reply from Witango when I asked them how to send money! Bob **

RE: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread WebDude
I'm Here... -Original Message- From: Scott Cadillac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:03 PM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive? > Maybe "no news is good news" as far as the list being quiet. > > Nobody is reporting pro

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Beverly Voth
On 1/25/08 3:03 PM, "Scott Cadillac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in whole or in part: > Either that or everybody else has left... > > Maybe we should have a roll-call? > > PRESENT, and I brought my pencil ;-) Presently lurking... Beverly _

RE(1): Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread gkassyou
Perhaps Witango should become open source and witango technologies should concentrate on support licenesing only. It's a good product, but too expensive compared to what is out there. With open source, the community could grow faster. - Original message - From: "Scott Cadillac" <[EMAIL

RE: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Ted Wolfley
Here and coding away with Witango Ted -Original Message- From: Scott Cadillac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:03 PM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive? > Maybe "no news is good news" as far as the list being quiet. > > No

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Scott Cadillac
> Maybe "no news is good news" as far as the list being quiet. > > Nobody is reporting problems, maybe things are just working smoothly > for everyone (: Either that or everybody else has left... Maybe we should have a roll-call? PRESENT, and I brought my pencil ;-) Scott, _

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Alan Wolfe
Maybe "no news is good news" as far as the list being quiet. Nobody is reporting problems, maybe things are just working smoothly for everyone (: On 1/25/08, Roland Dumas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've missed it if there was a release date and upgrade pricing. Don't > see it on the web site an

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Roland Dumas
I've missed it if there was a release date and upgrade pricing. Don't see it on the web site and this list is very quiet. On Jan 25, 2008, at 12:50 AM, Ben Johansen wrote: I think that the release for Leopard for the Mac and Vista are giving them a fun time. The site is still up but i don't

Re: Witango-Talk: is witango alive?

2008-01-25 Thread Ben Johansen
I think that the release for Leopard for the Mac and Vista are giving them a fun time. The site is still up but i don't know how much longer that girl can hold that dive ;-) The beta looked good, I think they are just honing that, and probably adding some functionality to add value. Ben