David,
This sort of thing looks like a huge opportunity for web standards
authors/designers.
I've just put together a simple page intended to make the benefits of
web standards clear to potential customers. It's here:
http://www.fortyfivedegrees.com
Nothing really new, but majoring on the
Go to (Tools » Internet Options » Temporary Internet Files » Settings) and
select Every visit to page for your temp files settings in your IE to see
the flickerings.
With Regards
Jaime Wong
~~
SODesires Design Team
http://www.sodesires.com
~~
Thanks for all those links :)
But what I am actually asking here are comments on the Pixy's Rollover
update if it is good or bad to use it because of the extra div for each
navigation. And if there are limitations to its usage for e.g. td in
calendars.
With Regards
Jaime Wong
On Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 06:53 PM, 7 sinz wrote:
Hey i've been experimenting with suckerfish drop downs; first off the
code works brilliantly, but i wonder if it can be achieved without the
extra mark up, if there is a way???
Basicaly what im trying to do is create a CSS based drop down
Peter Ottery wrote:
http://www.pixy.cz/blog/favelets/
titled List computed (cascaded) style, and while I can get it to work
This is also where I found it. I couldn't get it to work in IE/WinXP
either, so I've been using it in Firefox.
I also went ahead and looked at Jesse's bookmarklets
Dave Shea makes a drop down with 2 lines of CSS. So i wondering if you could
apply the same tech, using the DOM scripting from the suckerfish menus; any
thoughts?
From: Justin French [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] SuckerFish Dropdowns
I don't think you have to have an extra div for each niviation item? If
you are using an unordered list, you can apply the background image to
the list item.
see dan cedarholm's Accissible Image Tabs at www.simplebits.com for an
example
--jeremy flint
www.jeremyflint.com
Jaime Wong wrote:
I went to the link posted (not the pixy one - the alistapart one) and
there was no flicker.
Nor did it see that background-position was being used.
Then, after reading this last post, I went to the pixy link (which does
use background-position). No flicker there either.
I'm using IE 6.
Did I
Hi!
First of all: I'm one of those who switched from css-f to this list. As a little introduction: I'm based in Berlin/Germany and develop (design+code) websites in my sparetime. The standards-virus got me one year ago, especially CSS. I love it. :-)
So is this fix good or bad and if there are
I appreciate the comments I've recieved on design issues and accessibility, as
those will always be continually improved. But, the real issue was the lagtime
in initial page load in Internet Explorer and how to fix it if possible.
I still guess that it has much to do with the handling of the
The problem with the CSS sprites solution that Matthias posted is that it will ALLWAYS cause IE6 to flicker.
Hmm. I tested it and it didn't flicker. And, after all, it is just the pixy-solution taken to a higher level.
--
Matthias http://www.kronn.de
Go to (Tools » Internet Options » Temporary Internet Files » Settings) and
select Every visit to page for your temp files settings in your IE to see
the flickerings.
Okay, quite logical that it flickers if the browser has to reload it every time.
But what I am actually asking here are comments on
Didn't the new pixy update requires extra div because it is using background
colours to fix the problem?
I am not using this new pixy update now.
I am using the old pixy at the moment.
With Regards
Jaime Wong
~~
SODesires Design Team
http://www.sodesires.com
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as i understand it, the browsers do behave as they should for each different
version number.
i believe that what the multiple versions do is load the rendering engine from,
say, IE5, into the framework of IE6.
What unfortunately doesn't work correctly is IE's
Combine the bookmarklet below with NVU: www.nvu.com, and you have a open
source, GECKO BASED (yah!) replacement for DWMX which also has most of
DWMX's features.
Andrew.
El lun, 15-03-2004 a las 04:04, Tim escribió:
it basically
provides all the relevant CSS that affects any given element,
On Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 11:05 PM, 7 sinz wrote:
Dave Shea makes a drop down with 2 lines of CSS. So i wondering if you
could apply the same tech, using the DOM scripting from the suckerfish
menus; any thoughts?
You'd have to show me a sample.
---
Justin French
http://indent.com.au
Although it is mentioned in our new guidelines, just a quick reminder...
Please, make sure you turn off Read Receipts. They cause all sorts of
problems for the WSG list. Peter, who is catching and filtering all our
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Thanks
Russ
They seem to be emanating from a bt.com smtp server.
Any ideas BT members?
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http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2003/10/27/mose_menus/
From: Justin French [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] SuckerFish Dropdowns
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:50:36 +1100
On Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 11:05 PM, 7 sinz wrote:
Dave Shea makes a
Don't believe so. Unstyled content doesn't flash -- in fact nothing
flashes. Just a blank screen.
Paul Brouwers wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I appreciate the comments I've recieved on design issues and
accessibility, as
those will always be continually improved. But, the real issue was
Hi All,
Usability Week 2004 is slowly creeping up on us.
This year it will be in Melbourne 17-21 May and Sydney 24-28 May.
It is run by NN/g and I know we all have mixed feeling about Jakob
Nielsen, but listening to his talks will be a great experience for
everyone on this list.
Here are the
anyone using
dreamweaver?
as far as 100% valid
transitional and strict xhtml sites go, can dreamweaver have its preferences etc
manipulated enough to be to produce markup and css exactly the way you want?
I've always used homesite religiously to handcode sites but may need to look to
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Peter Firminger wrote:
The source of the old post is,
Tim [deleted]
My sincerest apology to Tim. A very bad choice of words on my part, I did
not mean to convey the impression that Tim was directly responsible, only
that he was being used as a possible source for spam.
Thanks - that will also give us all time to have some good
long discussions with our bank managers about that second
mortgage :) 3 days with Jakob = $20K (I'm guessing this is US
dollars).
Sorry - I miss read the site - the 20K is for one of Jakob's staff coming to
your office for 3 days
They're at http://www.nngroup.com/events/sydney/prices.html . Worst case (5
days no EB) AUD$3,618 per head.
Not 20K but still pretty steep.
P
I wanted to send this out early so we can all benefit from
the early discount fee.
Thanks - that will also give us all time to have some good
long
Yes well while this does look interesting at up to $3000 I kinda doubt
too many people will be able to attend
Ian Main wrote:
Hi All,
Usability Week 2004 is slowly creeping up on us.
This year it will be in Melbourne 17-21 May and Sydney 24-28 May.
It is run by NN/g and I know we all have
Hi found this just recently, the author calls it, 'An Open Letter to
Jakob Nielsen'
He makes some interesting points.
http://www.designbyfire.com/68.html
There was another website I found talking about his criticisms of ebay,
but I can't remember what it was =(
Tim Hill
Computer Associates
http://www.nngroup.com/events/sydney/prices.html
http://www.nngroup.com/events/melbourne/prices.html
I won't be attending the first three days, only 2 days.
Web Usability 2004 and Beyond ALT test: Designing Accessible Websites
both seem quite interesting.
Ian.
www.e-lusion.com
I wanted to
Sorry - I should have said I use DW MX - we're still on NT here and MX 2004 doesn't
run on it. 2004 will have more accessibility and standards support options that plain
MX.
As Scott says, you can work in code view, design view, split - whatever you like. I'm
in and out of all of them all day
That's fire alright! Interesting! Thanks for posting that Tim.
Regards,
Amit Karmakar
www.karmakars.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hill, Tim
Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2004 3:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] Usability
On Mar 16, 2004, at 8:45 PM, Phillips, Wendy wrote:
- validate in the program itself as strict /transitional etc
One gotcha is that DW doesn't spot the following problem:
a href=index.cfm?event=fooarg=barfoobar/a
(It should convert to amp; in this or at least warn that it is
non-compliant)
Text below quoted from SitePoint Tech Times #85 www.sitepoint.com:
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Handheld CSS
If you believe the specs, writing CSS especially for handheld devices
such as mobile phones and PDAs should be a simple matter. Unfortunately,
as with many things CSS-related, this simplicity is an
Neerav wrote:
Note that some older handheld browsers stubbornly ignore
media=handheld style sheets. Aside from server-side browser detection,
there isn't much you can do for such browsers but hope that users will
upgrade!
-
A friend of mine pointed out a site called Kitta
On Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 11:27 PM, Peter Ottery wrote:
can dreamweaver have its preferences etc manipulated enough to be to produce markup and css exactly the way you want?
Pete
Actually dreamweaver is an html scripted application internally. You can change or extend any part of the
I've been tyo Kitta's site and personally I hate the idea of a separate
mobile version for so many reasons...
but from a purely user centric reason, I want the same content, and the
mobile version isn't the same content!
I use a palm with webpro3 which understands media handheld and it really
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