On 9/19/05, Stuart Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
autocomplete=off
I would check MSDN to see if there's a meta tag equivalent you can
use. I know with their imagetoolbar parameter, you can put a meta tag
in the head of the document to apply the same effect.
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Kay Smoljak
Hi All. I hope someone can help me with my problem but it isn't exactly
on topic so replies off list are encouraged.
The markup below is far from semantic but necessary for floating
elements and alignment. It will come out of a publishing system and may
repeat any number of times. For each
I haven't seen many problems with updating css files yet. As someone else
pointed out most browsers check whether it's been updated or not.
99% of the time it all works fine.
What's worrying though are developments such as server-side CSS. While it
can do some nice things it really defeats the
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 09:13 +0200, Marco van Hylckama Vlieg wrote:
What's worrying though are developments such as server-side CSS. While it
can do some nice things it really defeats the purpose of CSS.
Seeing as no-one else has said anything, I thought I'd complain on this
point. Even if you
I should have called the class 'importanttext' or something similar in my
example indeed. However it still holds. One can either manipulate the way
output looks by dynamically changing the CSS or by dynamically changing
the HTML output. I prefer the latter to be honest.
- Marco
On Mon, 19 Sep
On 9/19/05, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on Montag, 19. September 2005 at 11:01 you wrote: CSS or you can change the HTML output to
become span class=redsome_text/span and define .red in the CSS as well. Simplified example maybe but it explains things a little bit.But you mix structure
Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
One can either
manipulate the way
output looks by dynamically changing the CSS or by
dynamically changing
the HTML output. I prefer the latter to be honest.
But the question is: why do you prefer it? Just gut feeling,
or any valuable/measurable reason?
Also: of
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Hi all,
Here's the problem, is that I have a dropdown nav which i have used
before and am currently implementing into this website
http://www.magnam.com/patrol/internal.htm
The dropdowns are absolute div's, and mostly everything else is relative.
The CSS for the dropdown is found here and is as
My bad, the remaining CSS is in this file http://www.magnam.com/patrol/c/internal.css
Hello!
Instead of applying z-index toul's and li's of your
navigation,apply z-index to #masthead:
#masthead { ...
z-index: 666;}
Here's
the problem, is that I have a dropdown nav which i have used before and am
currently implementing into this website
Oh you are the man. Thanks a lot that did the trick, i am so blind!!!
On 9/19/05, Stepan Reznikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello!
Instead of applying z-index toul's and li's of your
navigation,apply z-index to #masthead:
#masthead { ...
z-index: 666;}
Here's
the problem, is that I
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:59:02 -0400, Chris Blown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Martin's correct, class=red is putting presentation in the markup.
I disagree. span style=color:#f00;some_text/span is puttiing
presentation in the markup. class=red is still a class that can be
changes in the
Tom,
on Monday, September 19, 2005 at 14:57 you wrote:
Martin's correct, class=red is putting presentation in the markup.
I disagree. span style=color:#f00;some_text/span is puttiing
presentation in the markup. class=red is still a class that can be
changes in the sheet. In my mind, the
Tom Livingston
I disagree. span style=color:#f00;some_text/span is puttiing
presentation in the markup. class=red is still a class that can be
changes in the sheet. In my mind, the word red in this case
is just a word, not a color.
It's just a word, but it does have presentational
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:22:08 -0400, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Technically yes, but you'll agree that it is confusing to call the
class red which gives the text a blue color, don't you? If you want to
change the color, you've got to change the class name and probably the
css too.
Hi Patrick,
FYI, Blogger does use templates which will update earlier posts as
well as current posts when you make a change to them. I'm not a
programmer, so I can't say how (thinking javascript), but I just made
a change to my navigation thoughout my site. Then I made it
separately to
At 10:57 PM 9/18/2005, Stuart Sherwood wrote:
...
For each category, the list of topics must be hidden until clicked.
...
//Populate the array with all the page tags
var allPageTags=document.getElementsByTagName(*);
//Cycle through the tags using a for loop
for (i=0; iallPageTags.length; i++)
Marilyn Langfeld
FYI, Blogger does use templates which will update earlier posts as
well as current posts when you make a change to them. I'm not a
programmer, so I can't say how (thinking javascript), but I
just made
a change to my navigation thoughout my site. Then I made it
Hi Patrick,
I know, but I thought Blogger then had to go through a (server-side)
process of rebuilding every single static version of the pages, which
on a large blog can take quite a while...or maybe I'm thinking of
Movable Type? Ah, whatever...you catch my drift, which is surprisingly
I'm working on a site that has lots of click here links. I believe
it's considered bad form to use click here rather than making the
link on words that better represent the title of the page being
linked. Does anyone know a rule I can point to (and send my client to
read) re accessibility
I would appreciate it if someone could take a look at this
http://www.earhartrefrig.com/services.htm
and let me know if I am going to have to ditch the uls. The page HTML and
CSS both validate (4.01 Trans.) except for the the uls contained in the
span elements at lines 35, 54, 73, and 89. This
http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere
Fantastic, just what I needed. I Googled it, but didn't find that
page. Thanks very much.
Best regards,
Marilyn Langfeld
Langfeldesigns
http://www.langfeldesigns.com
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+1.301.598.3300 business phone
+1.301.598.0532 fax
+1.202.390.8847
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www/click.html should help
Dear Brian,
Thanks for the reference. It's great.
Best regards,
Marilyn Langfeld
Langfeldesigns
http://www.langfeldesigns.com
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I'm working on a site that has lots of click here links. I believe
it's considered bad form to use click here rather than making the
link on words that better represent the title of the page being
linked. Does anyone know a rule I can point to (and send my client to
read) re
I think you have to ditch the ul's. By the way, the effect is really
harsh on the yes, maybe it's not the best idea for such large blocks of
text? I didn't even notice the effect right away, because it's not
obvious, but then when I did notice it, it was hard to look at. On 9/19/05, Scott Glasgow
That should say the effect is really harsh on the EYES. whoops. On 9/19/05, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:I think you have to ditch the ul's. By the way, the effect is really
harsh on the yes, maybe it's not the best idea for such large blocks of
text? I didn't even notice the effect
The other nice thing about Blogger is that many if not all of thetemplates are well designed. Mine was originally designed for Blogger
by Zeldman. I've modified it a lot, but the framework is his.Unfortunately, I added Haloscan trackback and comments, which make itfail validation. Otherwise it
Christian Montoya wrote:
I think you have to ditch the ul's. By the way, the effect is really
harsh on the yes, maybe it's not the best idea for such large blocks
of text? I didn't even notice the effect right away, because it's not
obvious, but then when I did notice it, it was hard to look at.
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:44:58 -0400, Marilyn Langfeld wrote:
I'm working on a site that has lots of click here links. I believe
it's considered bad form to use click here rather than making the
link on words that better represent the title of the page being
linked. Does anyone know a rule I
Hi all
I'd really appreciate it if anyone can shed light on this non-critical
but annoying anomaly.
I've just built a couple of pages using UTF encoding, rather than
iso-8859-1, and all is as expected, except that in IE/Mac, if you View
Source, there's a single character ('?') as the very
Julián asked what the advantage of floating lis is over display inline.
Essentially it depends on how you want to display your menu. Using the
float method ensures the li's are block level and therefore you can
use margins and padding etc.
Personally I always use float:left rather than
It should also be noted that W3C spec dictates that a floated element
has a defined width. Not so with inline elements.
scott reston
raleigh, nc
Paul Sturgess wrote:
Julián asked what the advantage of floating lis is over display inline.
Essentially it depends on how you want to display
Scott,
Have you tried printing this page? If you are going to do the hover thing, make
sure you add a print stylesheet with them all visible at once.
cheers,
Geoff.
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Hi Stuart,
I think it would be much easier if your JavaScript will change only id
of the categories container.
Example:
CSS:
.topiclist {
some rules
}
#toggled .topiclist {
display: none;
}
HTML:
div id=forToggle
div class=categorya class=activate href=# onclick=return
First, thanks to Paul for answering.
Paul Sturgess wrote:
Regarding your reverse-order menu... I think you've floated each
list item right. What you need to do is float each item left but
contain all the items in one div and float the div right, *not* the
list items.
I tried this, but I
- A website talking about Amaya
- Download Amaya
- The Amaya Forum
- My aunty Amaya
So, without verbs, it could still be more descriptive with slight tweaks and
without using verbs
- Download the Amaya Software
- The Amaya Forum
- My Aunty Amaya
Then again, you could choose to solve the
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Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:44 AM
To: Web Standards Group
Subject: Re: [WSG] Click here--reference
- A website talking about Amaya
- Download Amaya
- The Amaya Forum
- My aunty Amaya
So, without
linked. Does anyone know a rule I can point to (and send my client to
read) re accessibility and click here?
Dey Alexander has a neat and concise paper on the issue -
http://www.deyalexander.com/papers/clickhere.html
Covers usability and readability as well as accessibility.
cheers,
h
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On 20 Sep 2005, at 7:32 am, Nick Gleitzman wrote:
I've just built a couple of pages using UTF encoding, rather than
iso-8859-1, and all is as expected, except that in IE/Mac, if you View
Source, there's a single character ('?') as the very first character
of the file - and it renders.
Nice attempt Russ, but I'm with
Andreas here.
If the the link takes you to a
location whose purpose is to execute a function (apart from reading/viewing)
then why not state that.
I've exempted reading and viewing
as they're pretty much what you *have* to do on the web for every page - so
You guys are completely off here. Links are supposed to be like this:
Get a href="" href="http://www.url.com">http://www.url.com title=Link to download Amaya, the W3C Web Browser for testingAmaya /a
Links without titles are already inaccessible, regardless of context.
The screen reader refers
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From: Christian Montoya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:31 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Click here--reference
You guys are completely off here. Links are supposed to be like this:
Get a
I've been completely off on many occasions. However, I'd be wary of any
definitive statement, especially in the area of accessibility. While we all
crave right and wrong answers, there are often many shades of gray. :)
While blind users are not the only target audience for title attributes,
First thing I thought when reading your message: BOM. And indeed, it
is there.
I remember, when I still used BBEdit @version 7, I had a hard time
getting rid of it. I think you have to set it first in the application
prefs, save without BOM, before opening any document.
Thanks, Philippe.
I haven't made up my mind about verbs in links yet, but a counter
example to yours Richard:
However, for pages where you're asked to register for a conference,
for example, there's no way you'd put:
Register for the
http://www.forbesconferences.com/?page=registerForbes Conference.
How
Well, I understand that screen readers don't use the title attribute
like they should, but that is a bad implementation in the screen
readers, not a misuse of the title attribute. That being said, I still
think that the solution to:
Download a href="" /a
is:
Download a href="" Software /a
Hi all,
Another bizarre IE bug. I've searched and searched and can find nothing
suitable to fix this.
The content in the centre column (i.e. the main content) of my site template
disappears on page load. It reappears as soon as you rollover any link, or
drag over the body text itself.
This is a
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Subject: [WSG] Disappearing conent in middle column
The content in the centre column (i.e. the main content) of
my site template
disappears on
Hi Christian. Yes, I have.
The clearer class looks like this.
.clearer {clear:
both;line-height: 0; height: 0;margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;background:
transparent;}
For those not seeing the problem it is duplicated ONLY
under these circumstamces.
1.The centre colums content height is less
Hi Andreas,
That's the bug alright. If only I'd thought to search Google for 'peekaboo'
and not 'CSS content disappears' or similar. ;)
Gunlaug's fix certainly did the trick. Thanks, Gunlaug!
It appears the Holly Hack might also work but would oyu believe the original
article for this on
Hey Damian,
Very valid point! It's not too difficult to turn a verb into an adjective.
Somehow, though, reading your example I get the feeling that it's a very
passive voice to read in.
It almost *feels* like:
Here's the Registration Form (which by the way you can also fill in).
What else
Hi
can someone using Safari have a look at this page
[http://www.sf.id.au/we05/title.html] and move the mouse over the text
title attribute and do a screenshot of the page for me?
I want to see how and if the title attribute content on the containing (P
element) is displayed.
I believe that
can someone using Safari have a look at this page
[http://www.sf.id.au/we05/title.html] and move the mouse over the text
title attribute and do a screenshot of the page for me?
It shows the content of your title, in its entirety, in a little
yellow box next to the cursor.
I believe that
The same on Safari 2.0.1
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