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2005-10-02 Thread infopre
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[WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com

2005-10-02 Thread Nolan Winthrop
I've finally bit the bullet and built a fairly (I hope) standards compliant website, 47 Words (http://www.47words.com). I've just run it through the W3 Validators (CSS and XHTML) and it validates. I'd really appreciate comments on the code, design, any ways I could make the markup more semantic,

Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com

2005-10-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Nolan Winthrop wrote: http://www.47words.com Not exactly following best practices, with font-sizes _and_ line-heights defined in pixels. You're getting the usual result: blocking font-resizing in IE/win and causing text-overlapping in IE/win and Opera if user overrides font-sizes. In short:

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Joshua Street
Okay, most of the points I made still apply. 1) is out, because you've ditched the JS menu. 2, 3, 4, 5 (less now) and 7 still apply. You've got images where you could be using background images in a H4 for the special offers section, and I'd lean towards doing part of your testimonial bit

Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com

2005-10-02 Thread Wybe Weysters
Hi Nolan I like it. I was a bit surprised by the blue on hover. Surprise is good, but i don't know about the blue. In your search option you use some _javascript_ which isn't very stable. If the focus is on the input field and i reload the page (in FF) the hole thing is gone. No input field,

[WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/

2005-10-02 Thread Hopkins Programming
Hey guys, If you wouldn't mind checking out my website, http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, I would greatly appreciate it. There is one thing in particular I would like help with - On the homepage, the 3 large images are divs w/background images, and display:block hyperlinks. It works fine, but

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread standards
Hi Josh, I appreciate your input, and I concur with some of your points, and will apply the changes accordingly. However, I think using strong to emphasize the author of the testimonial is perfectly acceptable. To create a rule and use span tag is overkill. Additionally, the image is to

Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/

2005-10-02 Thread Felix Miata
Hopkins Programming wrote: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Your px sized containers aren't giving their content enough room to fit: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/hopkinsp1.png If you set height in em's vertical inadequacy shouldn't happen. -- Be quick to listen, slow to speak.

Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/

2005-10-02 Thread Hopkins Programming
I can change those. But, the backgrounds are set not to repeat vertically. So would it be better to a) Let the text flow into empty white space; b) set a bckgound color and let it flow into that; or c) let the background repeat? Also, just how far up should I assume a user may set their text?

Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/

2005-10-02 Thread Christian Montoya
You can't just measure it by IE's +2 and -2, because for users with widescreen displays, the default is something like +1. This is because widescreen Windows XP runs at 120 dpi rather than the standard 96 dpi, and to compensate for small text, the text is automatically set to be larger. Therefore

Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/

2005-10-02 Thread Felix Miata
http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm says: use plain text email Hopkins Programming wrote: On 10/2/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopkins Programming wrote: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Your px sized containers aren't giving their content

[WSG] Hacks / Work Arounds for IE Mac and Old er IE Pc versions

2005-10-02 Thread sam sherlock
I have noticed that some repeated background are not displaying in IE 5.5 since everything else works I was wondering if the background issue could be resolved? Also the perspective from IE Mac is messy the styles are not applied or have obscure results. I am not on mac so testing is a

Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/

2005-10-02 Thread Hopkins Programming
Ok guys, I've reworked some of the heights and background images to allow for extended text resizing. I think I got all of the big stuff, does it look work ok for you now Felix? --ZacharyOn 10/2/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm says:use

Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com

2005-10-02 Thread Nolan Winthrop
Thanks for the comments, Georg, Wybe. I've made some corrections to it: notably shifting to percentages and ems for font-sizes; changing to onfocus for the search form. I do have one question that just came up while I was chatting with a friend: Does the hreflang attribute on links do anything,

Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/

2005-10-02 Thread Felix Miata
Hopkins Programming wrote: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Ok guys, I've reworked some of the heights and background images to allow for extended text resizing. I think I got all of the big stuff, does it look work ok for you now Felix? You're still not giving several things enough

Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/

2005-10-02 Thread Hopkins Programming
Ok, For the moment being, I am going to ignore the links in the top right corner and the fieldset in the bottom left. What do you think about the WAI issue? Keep the p's and add in a small span of text inside the link, or put all of the p text into a span and use that? --zacharyOn 10/2/05, Felix

RE: [WSG] Forums review

2005-10-02 Thread Peter Williams
From: John S. Britsios I would highly appreciate if you would come over, and have a look at our new forums, and tell us your opinion or suggestions. URI: http://forums.webnauts.net I tried to join using my name as the username, I was rejected with the reason given being that the name was

Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com

2005-10-02 Thread Felix Miata
Nolan Winthrop wrote: http://www.47words.com You're not providing enough width for all content to fit in the allotted space . . . http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/47words1.png . . . nor the content enough size to be comfortably read: http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/area76.html (the content

[WSG] WE05

2005-10-02 Thread Katrina
Gday, I was lucky enough to be able to attend WE05, and I was listening to something Tantek Celik said and I've been mulling it over for a few days, and I just thought I'd ask a group who'd know. Context: I'm a uni student, so I don't know much. Going back to Tantek Celik, he was referring

Re: [WSG] WE05

2005-10-02 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Katrina wrote: Aren't the header tags reserved for text? Is it acceptable form to place non-textual elements only inside of header tags? Eg. h1img src=image.jpg alt=An image/h1 ? You can put any inline content inside a heading...so an image (as long as it has a proper alt attribute) is

Re: [WSG] WE05

2005-10-02 Thread Aaron Tate
Quoting Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gday, I was lucky enough to be able to attend WE05, and I was listening to something Tantek Celik said and I've been mulling it over for a few days, and I just thought I'd ask a group who'd know. Context: I'm a uni student, so I don't know much. Going

Re: [WSG] WE05

2005-10-02 Thread leenath1
Hi Kat, I was there too (WE05) and heard the same line! What Tantek was referring to was saying if your header for your webpage JUST contains say a title and logo, then there may be no need whatsoever to include the extra div element (i.e. a h1 with a background image and text). So what

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Joshua Street
On Sun, 2005-10-02 at 12:22 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appreciate your input, and I concur with some of your points, and will apply the changes accordingly. However, I think using strong to emphasize the author of the testimonial is perfectly acceptable. To create a rule and use span

RE: [WSG] WE05

2005-10-02 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: Katrina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 3 October 2005 10:35 AM To: Web Standards Group Subject: [WSG] WE05 Who has ever seen a div with a class of header? Why not use a header (eg.h1) element? Aren't the header tags reserved for text? Is it

Re: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)

2005-10-02 Thread Alan Trick
Yes. It's not as evil as some things, but it is certainly bad practice. You'd be much better off using HTML 4.01 (which is, last time I checked a valid spec). Julián Landerreche wrote: As long as I know, you shouldnt serve XHTML 1.1 as text/html. You should serve it as text/xml, or

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Michael Wilson
Hi, I haven't followed this thread completely, but I wanted to comment on this specific post because some of your comments caught my eye and another view may come in handy. However, I think using strong to emphasize the author of the testimonial is perfectly acceptable. Because it's not

RE: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Paul Bennett
dl id=testimonial dtJoe Coyle, President, www.coylemedical.com/dt ddMr. Cisneros and his team have an extraordinary talent for customer communication, market vision, and web page design./dd dl feel free to bite my head off - I haven't been following this thread closely. There seems

Re: [WSG] WE05

2005-10-02 Thread Kazuhito Kidachi
2005/10/3, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: However, using a h1 for an entire header (top area of a page) I think is a misuse of the tag. h1 is meant for headings, not headers. A heading, to my understanding, is the title of a piece of content and there will be generally

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Brett Taylor
On 3/10/2005, at 2:28 PM, Paul Bennett wrote: There seems to be a tendency lately to use definition lists for way more than I think they're supposed to be used for. As someone who was at WE05, Tantek mentioned that using DL, DT and DD for anything other than definition lists is abuse!:

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread leenath1
Since the testimonial is basically a quote, why not use the q element? Then use the presidents name within the cite element. This way it is semantic, and you still get to style the presidents name any way that you feel fit! Cheers Nathan - Original Message - From: Michael Wilson

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Joshua Street
On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 12:00 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the testimonial is basically a quote, why not use the q element? Then use the presidents name within the cite element. This way it is semantic, and you still get to style the presidents name any way that you feel fit!

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Lea de Groot
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:23:50 +1000, Joshua Street wrote: p class=testimonialnamespanJoe Coyle,/span President/p and add the rule .testimonialname span {font-weight:bold} I would give strong consideration to: p class=testimonialnameciteJoe Coyle,/cite President/p .testimonialname cite

Re: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)

2005-10-02 Thread Christian Montoya
Hm, I've been thinking about this. As far as I know, serving XHTML 1.1 as xml or xhtml+xml IS dangerous. It's not supported in most browsers. While text/html is not the right way to serve 1.1, it's the only way that works. It's the way I serve my 1.1 sites, and I haven't seen any problems. Any

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Christian Montoya
Isn't b still valid? If you want to have a weightless way of bolding the text, but don't want to mess with a span, use b . On 10/2/05, Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:23:50 +1000, Joshua Street wrote: p class=testimonialnamespanJoe Coyle,/span President/p and add

Use of cite WAS: Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Joshua Street
On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 12:39 +1000, Lea de Groot wrote: I would give strong consideration to: p class=testimonialnameciteJoe Coyle,/cite President/p .testimonialname cite {font-weight:bold} and think about working a q element into the actual quote-paragraph. This immediately seems to make

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Joshua Street
On Sun, 2005-10-02 at 22:58 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote: Isn't b still valid? If you want to have a weightless way of bolding the text, but don't want to mess with a span, use b . Yes. It's in the presentation module for XHTML 1.1 (

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 22:58:19 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote: Isn't b still valid? If you want to have a weightless way of bolding the text, but don't want to mess with a span, use b . Yes, its 'valid', for low values of valid, but wrapping a cite element around the name screams 'this is who

Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Michael Wilson
Paul Bennett wrote: dl id=testimonial dtJoe Coyle, President, www.coylemedical.com/dt ddMr. Cisneros and his team have an extraordinary talent for customer communication, market vision, and web pageb design./dd dl There seems to be a tendency lately to use definition lists for way more than I

Re: [WSG] WE05

2005-10-02 Thread Lachlan Hardy
Katrina wrote: Who has ever seen a div with a class of header? Why not use a header (eg.h1) element? I may not have understood that. I may have misheard that. I'm sorry if I did. Aren't the header tags reserved for text? Is it acceptable form to place non-textual elements only inside of

[WSG] CHISIG Seminar Sydney 04.10

2005-10-02 Thread Lachlan Hardy
G'day folks, my colleague Gian Sampson-Wild had some issues posting this to the list so I'm forwarding it on her behalf. As such, apologies for the late notice: From: Gian Sampson-Wild Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2005 7:17 PM To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'

Re: Use of cite WAS: Re: [WSG] Homepage Review: webnetdesignstudios.com

2005-10-02 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On 10/3/05, Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... is there any way to define this relationship? Or is it just order-of-content and hoping it makes sense? What if you were to put the cite after the quote for whatever reason (style guide convention, etc)? Sorry Josh, there's no attribute