G'day
heretic wrote:
Actually, I think some of the benefits touted for large-scale sites
are actually more urgently required and keenly noticed by small
business. In particular...
The problem is that many small/micro businesses don't see it
(y)our way. They only see the shiny coat of paint,
Lea can you tell me how you do that exactly? Code it?
Thanks,
John
Lea de Groot wrote:
On 06/02/2006, at 5:30 PM, John S. Britsios wrote:
I would like to ask here, if there is a possibility making my texts
wrap around the bottom of my images
here
Nice site John...
At 06:30 PM 6/02/2006, you wrote:
Hi everyone,
I would like to ask here, if there is a possibility making my texts wrap
around the bottom of my images
here
http://www.webnauts.net/redesign/test.html, without becoming rubbish
when resizing the page.
Thanks in advance for your
Actually, when I examine your css more closely - you are already
doing this, although you havent applied a width to make the float
valid...
Apologies for being nitpicky here but a width does not need to be applied to
images that are floated as they already have intrinsic width.
A floated box
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But this definition list code I feel is not the most semantic way to
solve the problem (not using the dl as it was intended). However, I
also feel that what I have currently is also not perfect (and if it is,
is em better than strong??).
Hi Nathan,
why don't you
Lea,
I did that but it still doesn't work. See example here:
http://www.webnauts.net/redesign/testing.html
Thanks,
John
Lea de Groot wrote:
On 06/02/2006, at 6:56 PM, John S. Britsios wrote:
Lea can you tell me how you do that exactly? Code it?
Sure!
looks at page
Oh, you're almost
Thanks Ian,
Thanks for your reply!
I just felt that a definition list was intended to define terms. For
example:
h2JAWS (X)HTML interpretationsh2
dl
dt em (Emphasis) /dt
ddJAWS will use pitch and tone to emphasise the words contained within
the em element/dd
dl strong (Strong
Nathan
I have considered this myself. Its almost tabular data really - th and td
- in some respects more so than a definition list.
I have built my own cms over the years which outputs similar data - these
days i just use :
pstrongTitle/strong data/p
I do not think a standard ordered, or
I would agree with you, it seems as if a definition list should only
be used for 'concise' definitions. However, common usage has made it
mean any list of key=value pairs. I guess that it is how the
majority of people interpret a standard that really defines it.
Stephen
On 6 Feb 2006,
John S. Britsios wrote:
I did that but it still doesn't work. See example here:
http://www.webnauts.net/redesign/testing.html
Try adding:
.content {overflow: hidden;}
...as you have a case of floats being forced down to line up with
elements in the right column. 'overflow: hidden' will
You could easily argue that a definition list IS fit for purpose.
Take your example:
h2JAWS (X)HTML interpretationsh2
dl
dt em (Emphasis) /dt
ddJAWS will use pitch and tone to emphasise the words
contained within the em element/dd
dl strong (Strong Emphasis) /dt
ddJAWS will
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, in my case, I just felt that 100 223 578 does not define
Customer Identification Number (CID). ...So am I wrong in my
thinking about definitions lists?? Can a random bunch of digits such
as 100 223 578 really be a definition that means Customer
Identification
Thanks everyone for your feedback. I think I will go down the dl path for
now. I have a WSG meeting I will be attending this Friday (in Canberra). If
there is room to raise it I will, to get some others peoples reaction and
possible solutions they may have found.
Thanks again,
Nathan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
I quickly scanned the archive but cannot find a discussion that exactly matches
what I am trying to achieve. I want to markup some text and want to know if I'm
doing it the most semantic (and accessible) way possible.
ok, here is an example of some text and
On Feb 6, 2006, at 1:30 AM, John S. Britsios wrote:
I would like to ask here, if there is a possibility making my texts
wrap around the bottom of my images
here http://www.webnauts.net/redesign/test.html, without becoming
rubbish when resizing the page.
First of all ...start over!
1/ You
Hi Lachlan,
I think you are right, a table actually probably is the most semantic way to
go about this. I think it's easy to get turned away by all the markup needed
for a table. But my question was about having the most semantic solution,
not the most efficient to implement.
I guess I made
The problem is that many small/micro businesses don't see it
(y)our way. They only see the shiny coat of paint, not the rust
underneath it, or the engine under the bonnet. Bombarding them
with technical jargon isn't going to help. They just see a web
page in their browser. It either looks
I am coming to realize that there is little real business case for small
business. Total cost of operation of a website for a small business
might be marginal.
My reasoning for this thread was to formulate a position statement that
could be communicated to small business leaders to have them
I think the problem is fixed: http://www.webnauts.net/redesign/
Do you something wrong there? If not, everything is fine.
Thanks a lot for your help.
John
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
John S. Britsios wrote:
I did that but it still doesn't work. See example here:
I want a standards based website -- can you deliver?
This premise is wrong. When I'm buying a house I also do not explicitly
state that I want it to be built with standards, however I anticipate
it's not going to fall on my head soon.
It's the professional side of all the suppliers. If you
Hello list,
I am doing my first 'translated Web pages' in French, Spanish and
Portuguese.
Aside from the translated content, which I have, what else should I be
doing? Do I need different doc types for each? Any tips would be
appreciated.
I have no control over hosting. I believe, FWIW, these
Nope, just use UTF-8 and the only thing you need to customize is the
Content-Language header and xml:lang attribute and you're done.
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On 2/6/06 11:08 AM, Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope, just use UTF-8 and the only thing you need to customize is the
Content-Language header and xml:lang attribute and you're done.
Sorry, just wanna get it right...
Here's what I have on my page:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD
What do I need to change?
In your case - nothing. You're already done.
In my case, when I use ...
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=cs
I just felt that a definition list was intended to define terms.
So am I wrong in my thinking about definitions lists?
Partly. The scope of their usage is pretty much wide. For me the sign of
the possibility to use them is equivalency. Not only an explanation,
even any equivalent relation in
On 2/6/06 11:58 AM, Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do I need to change?
In your case - nothing. You're already done.
Now this is the kind of answer I love getting, but I think this is the first
time I've ever gotten it!
Thanks Jan!
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Jan Brasna wrote:
I want a standards based website -- can you deliver?
This premise is wrong. When I'm buying a house I also do not
explicitly state that I want it to be built with standards, however I
anticipate it's not going to fall on my head soon.
I don't agree with this analogy.
Hi all
I am new to multiple language sites. However, I have a client who has a
small amount of text on one page of his site referring Japanese speaking
users to a different (Japanese) site.
Firefox and Safari on the Mac seem to have a default which allows the
Japanese to be read. However, I
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote:
Firefox and Safari on the Mac seem to have a default which allows the
Japanese to be read. However, I noticed that good ol' Windows IE6
doesn't automatically render other languages and that its preferences
needed to be changed etc.
It's probably a font related issue.
On 7 Feb 2006, at 7:02 am, Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote:
I am new to multiple language sites. However, I have a client who
has a
small amount of text on one page of his site referring Japanese
speaking
users to a different (Japanese) site.
Firefox and Safari on the Mac seem to have a default
A big reason for not using toggles for FAQs we found was the
inability to use the browsers find (Find in this page) feature.
Often the reason for using toggles is that the page's content is quite
large. Users would normally us their browsers find feature to jump to
a keyword they are looking for.
I'd have to challenge the statement about users normally using the
browsers find feature.
The majority of users that I have (or had rather) to accommodate for,
didn't even know that their browser had a find feature. Instead
preferring to use scroll and skim behaviours to locate information.
Not
Just because a large subset of your users don't use a particular
function on your web browser is not a good justification to disable its use.
If a larger number of your users are skimming the headlines then
clicking to find more details about a particular entry then post a
series of anchor
Thanks for your help everyone... I guess what I am trying to do is
replicate the whole iframes thing using div tags - where I have various content
load within a certain section of my page an, if I'm making any sense. (I'm
also trying to convince a friend to do table-less designs, and that
True. But I wasn't talking about disabling any features at all.
And if the toggles are done correctly I understand that the find
functions will still behave correctly, because the headings will have
appropriate key words in them anyway. Presuming of course you have them
written descriptively.
It sounds like you want an iframe (like a browser window) embedded in
the page that then has its location controlled by external
links/buttons/whatever. In that case
a href=iframecontentpage.htm target=iframeLink/a
Where target is the id attribute of the iframe that you created earlier
in
Replies in body,
And if the toggles are done correctly I understand that the find
functions will still behave correctly, because the headings will have
appropriate key words in them anyway. Presuming of course you have them
written descriptively.
Your effectively disabling it because it is
I'll just add a bit more to this:
If you want to load entire web pages embedded into the current page you
will have to use the iframe, if just want to change simple text/html
within a div then you will have to use the innerhtml property (or use
this method that came up on delicious this
From: Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zah? I thought this was about showing/hiding content within divs.
Not matter how well written your content/headings whatever, you
shouldn't disable parts of the browser interface. I've read that
sentence above about three times and I can't understand
Hi Philippe,
Japanese (and other East-Asian) language support is installed by
default on OS X.
Not so on Windows side of things (it comes with the install discs as
an extra package).
I've been told that Firefox/Win tries to display the text
nevertheless.
Just as I thought.
A little
cool... thank you Samuel. Will check it out.
- Original Message -
From: Samuel Richardson
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:55
PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] DIV Target
I'll just add a bit more to this:If you want to load
entire web pages
Hi Josh,
There's a public list you can join for the Mobile Web Initiative (MWI) which
isn't high in traffic and provides really good, friendly, interesting
discussion. Details for the MWI, the mail list and other info:
http://www.w3.org/Mobile/
Also, there's a 'Last Call Working Draft' of the
R Walker (RMW Web Publishing) wrote:
A big reason for not using toggles for FAQs we found was the
inability to use the browsers find (Find in this page) feature.
Often the reason for using toggles is that the page's content is quite
large. Users would normally us their browsers find feature to
It truly is frustrating when FAQ pages hide everything with
invisible DIVs. As already mentioned it makes Ctrl-F useless (which
I personally find very annoying), and it also makes me click a whole
bunch of useless + symbols if I want to read more than one question on
the page.
A short script could check past #
... as eg. Moo.FX does - http://moofx.mad4milk.net/#introduction
So it's pretty easy to add.
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On 2/7/06, Justin Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It truly is frustrating when FAQ pages hide everything with
invisible DIVs. As already mentioned it makes Ctrl-F useless (which
I personally find very annoying), and it also makes me click a whole
bunch of useless + symbols if I want to read
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