[WSG] Daniel Beckitt is out of the office.

2007-06-21 Thread daniel . b . beckitt
I will be out of the office starting 22/06/2007 and will not return until 28/06/2007. I will respond to your message when I return. For urgent enquiries, please contact the Highway21 Team on 3032 3456. *** WARNING: This e-mai

[WSG] IE7 zoom collapses horizontal tab navigation

2007-06-21 Thread Miles Tillinger
This is a centered tab menu based on Alistapart's Sliding Doors concept. The IE7 zoom tool is making the anchor text in the tabs 'collapse' away from the tab background images. See example: http://www.streetdaddy.com/temp/ce/ It only happens when the li is display: block (needed to center the ul

Re: [WSG] intuitive text resizer for accessibility toolbar

2007-06-21 Thread Benedict Wyss
Ya gotta love the WSG, This is exactly why I post here, where people respond with decent honest answers with out too much in the way of restriction. For that I thank you! :-) All right, so I exaggerated on the "Government Standard", you got me.;-) I am still unsure on how to proceed, so b

[WSG] Accessibility and "fly out" menus

2007-06-21 Thread Mary-Anne . Nayler
I was wondering how members here feel about the accessibility of "Fly Out" menus. The type I'm talking about are CSS based, ie no JavaScript but I'd be interested to hear what people think about those that utilise JavaScript. ~~ Mary-Anne Nayler Senior Web Designe

Re: [WSG] Accessibility and "fly out" menus

2007-06-21 Thread Sander Aarts
Ross Bruniges schreef: the whole point is that there shouldn't be a javaScript-free menu that provides this functionality!! CSS is merely a format for styling documents and should not be used for functionality like that! I've heard this a lot, but if changing color on hovering a link is st

Re: [WSG] future standards

2007-06-21 Thread Sander Aarts
Alan Trick schreef: I've become a bit cynical with the W3C and their recent slowness to come out with workable specs (XHTML 2 anyone?). There has only been a very small advance in web technology in the last few years I've been in the industry. The WHATWG seems to be taking up the torch well. I h

Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Sander Aarts
Why do need a POST anyway if I may ask? cheers, Sander Richard Ishida schreef: I put together a box that expands to accommodate larger text in translation, but I forgot that text on a submit button doesn't wrap :O Original: http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php#end

Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Sander Aarts
Richard Ishida schreef: It's annoying that it doesn't work so well in Opera, but I'd rather give the problem to Opera users than IE users. Ouch! That hurts man... *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.

RE: [WSG] Javascript problem

2007-06-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> On Behalf Of Paul Collins > I have a script that adds colours to a all the columns in a table. It > works fine, the only problem is, it is trying to apply the code to all > pages, when the table is only on a couple. So when I am viewing all > other pages, it comes up with this error: > > docu

Re: [WSG] Javascript problem

2007-06-21 Thread Dan Dorman
On 6/21/07, Dan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: function alternateRows(tableID,numberOfColors,colorArray){ [snipped] if (table) { var trs=document.getElementById(tableID).getElementsByTagName("TD"); [snipped] } } } Whoops! I got a little careless. The line starting with "v

Re: [WSG] Javascript problem

2007-06-21 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 21/06/07, Paul Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, what I would like to do, is add a checker to the script to see if the table actually exists before doing the rest of the code. Unfortunately, I am a novice to this and I've been stuffing around for a while and can't get it to work. Simp

RE: [WSG] Javascript problem

2007-06-21 Thread Peter Leing
Try the following. It will check to see if the element exists before executing the alternateRows() function. addLoadEvent(function() { if(document.getElementById("caseStudiesTable")) { alternateRows("caseStudiesTable",6,colors); } }); -Original Message- Fr

Re: [WSG] Javascript problem

2007-06-21 Thread Dan Dorman
On 6/21/07, Paul Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hope this is on topic, please ignore it if not, I have a small Jscript problem that shouldn't be hard to sort out, but I am not great with these things... I'm assuming from the subject that you're actually referring to Javascript. Jscript is

[WSG] Javascript problem

2007-06-21 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all, I hope this is on topic, please ignore it if not, I have a small Jscript problem that shouldn't be hard to sort out, but I am not great with these things... I have a script that adds colours to a all the columns in a table. It works fine, the only problem is, it is trying to apply the c

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: *****SPAM***** digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2007-06-21 Thread McNally, Peter R
I will be out of the office on Thursday 06/21/07 and Friday 06/22/07. I will be back in the office on Monday 06/25/07. I will be on vacation and not checking email or voicemail during this time. I will respond to all emails when I return. Thanks, Pete

[WSG] Safari Web Inspector

2007-06-21 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
Hi all, Just thought people here might like to know that the WebKit team have just announced their new Web Inspector in nightly builds of Safari for Mac & Windows: Just had a play, and it looks like it offers mos

RE: [WSG] Accessibility and "fly out" menus

2007-06-21 Thread Philip Kiff
Mary-Anne.Nayler wrote: > I was wondering how members here feel about the accessibility of "Fly > Out" menus. The type I'm talking about are CSS based, ie no > JavaScript but I'd be interested to hear what people think about > those that utilise JavaScript. There was a discussion about this *exact

RE: [WSG] intuitive text resizer for accessibility toolbar

2007-06-21 Thread Philip Kiff
Benedict Wyss wrote: > My idea is to have a basic font size to allow a reasonable amount of > content with less scrolling and then in an accessibility toolbar give > the visitor the oportunity to increase the font size in the main > content area. This to me seems like a decent compromise. I am open

RE: [WSG] Accessibility and "fly out" menus

2007-06-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> On Behalf Of Brian Cummiskey > The suckerfish menus are pretty accessible, but like all items that > require a "hover" action, those with out a mouse may suffer a little. > > http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ This solution is keyboard friendly and there is a few pixels "cuss

[WSG] future standards

2007-06-21 Thread Alan Trick
Hi, I just watched a presentation from Robert O'Callahan last night and I think some of you would enjoy it. He goes over some of the new stuff that's coming out in Firefox and how Firefox plans to develop the web and web standards. It includes demos of their new typography support (ligatures and k

Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Richard Ishida wrote: > It's annoying that it doesn't work so well in Opera, > but I'd rather give the problem to Opera users than > IE users. This also seems a much more sensible > approach. I guess I should contact Opera and see if > we can't get this 'fixed'. I'm bummed it doesn't work as well

Re: [WSG] intuitive text resizer for accessibility toolbar

2007-06-21 Thread Benedict Wyss
Hi Felix, you are right in everything you write..but, there are always exceptions, in that we need to (at Veteran's Affairs) cater for visitors accross the board. We need to consider the realestate taken up and the text size which are oposite forces and so we need to find a happy medium. My

RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Richard Ishida
Ah, that makes a lot more sense, Mike. Thanks. It's annoying that it doesn't work so well in Opera, but I'd rather give the problem to Opera users than IE users. This also seems a much more sensible approach. I guess I should contact Opera and see if we can't get this 'fixed'. So now my code l

Re: [WSG] Accessibility and "fly out" menus

2007-06-21 Thread Ross Bruniges
> I'm yet to see a JavaScript-free menu that: > * Can be used without a pointing device (e.g. by keyboard or breath switch > users) >* Doesn't vanish the moment that the mouse drifts outside the menu > (thus requiring fine motor control that users with, for instance, > arthritis are unlikely

Re: [WSG] Accessibility and "fly out" menus

2007-06-21 Thread David Dorward
On 21 Jun 2007, at 07:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering how members here feel about the accessibility of "Fly Out" menus. The type I'm talking about are CSS based, ie no JavaScript but I'd be interested to hear what people think about those that utilise JavaScript. I'm yet to

RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Chris Taylor
Cheers, I thought that when I went back to it as well. I'll get that done very soon. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thierry Koblentz Sent: 20 June 2007 17:49 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with li

RE: [WSG] Accessibility and "fly out" menus [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2007-06-21 Thread Watson, Denis
As a user I have some difficulty with "fly out" and "pop up" menus. Firstly I find them difficult visually. Although my eye sight is reasonably good I do not like sudden movement on the screen. Secondly, I find that such menu items can be difficult to keep the mouse on although I do not have any

Re: [WSG] Accessibility and "fly out" menus

2007-06-21 Thread Brian Cummiskey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering how members here feel about the accessibility of "Fly Out" menus. The type I'm talking about are CSS based, ie no JavaScript but I'd be interested to hear what people think about those that utilise JavaScript. The suckerfish menus are pretty accessib

[WSG] Accessibility and "fly out" menus

2007-06-21 Thread Mary-Anne . Nayler
I was wondering how members here feel about the accessibility of "Fly Out" menus. The type I'm talking about are CSS based, ie no JavaScript but I'd be interested to hear what people think about those that utilise JavaScript. ~~ Mary-Anne Nayler Senior Web Designer