Re: [WSG] Accessibility of Nav Links using Title Tag??

2007-08-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Because the title attribute is part of Standards, screenreaders have been designed with a knowledge it, it's what they expect and it's what they use. So, no there is no better way. -- Stuart Foulstone. http://www.bigeasyweb.co.uk BigEasy Web Design 69 Flockton Court Rockingham Street Sheffield

[WSG] Accessibility of Nav Links using Title Tag??

2007-08-03 Thread Cole Kuryakin
Hello All - While I know that one should use improve accessibility of form eloements, it is also a common (best practice) to use a title attribute inside a link anchor like this: a href=home.htm title=Navigate Back to the Home Pagehome/a If there's a better way, or if I'm completely incorrect

Re: [WSG] Accessibility of Nav Links using Title Tag??

2007-08-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Quoting Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello All - While I know that one should use improve accessibility of form eloements, it is also a common (best practice) to use a title attribute inside a link anchor like this: a href=home.htm title=Navigate Back to the Home Pagehome/a If there's a

Re: [WSG] Accessibility of Nav Links using Title Tag??

2007-08-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Quoting Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Because the title attribute is part of Standards, screenreaders have been designed with a knowledge it, it's what they expect and it's what they use. Depending on user settings. Many screenreaders don't actually read title by default. So, no

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tee G. Peng wrote: I got an impression that setting 100.1% fontsize in body tag is a better approach and have been doing so for many sites. Also, with the 100.1% in the body, I usually declare .85em (.95 for my site as I love big fontsize :) ) for paragraph and lists. I also find that I get a

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On Fri, August 3, 2007 11:36 am, Rick Lecoat wrote: At 10:13 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Client sent me this link, kind of suggesting that 62.5% is the better approach because his client isn't happy that now the heading texts are too small and the paragraph texts are too big

Re: [WSG] Looking for a Stylesheet Switcher Script

2007-08-03 Thread Ryan Moore
Ya, it's colliding with another script i have but i'll figure it out. Thanks Again. On 8/3/07, Robert O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Moore wrote: page cannot be displayed...??? On 8/2/07, *Robert O'Rourke* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 12:41 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Note also that it doesn't actually work .../ snip / IE ignores fractional components of percentages - or, as another way of looking at it, only uses the first two decimal places of em based sizes - which means that any subsequent use of

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 10:13 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I got an impression that setting 100.1% fontsize in body tag is a better approach and have been doing so for many sites. Also, with the 100.1% in the body, I usually declare .85em (.95 for my site as I love big fontsize :) ) for

[WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Tee G. Peng
Hi, I got an impression that setting 100.1% fontsize in body tag is a better approach and have been doing so for many sites. Also, with the 100.1% in the body, I usually declare .85em (.95 for my site as I love big fontsize :) ) for paragraph and lists. I also find that I get a more

Re: [WSG] Looking for a Stylesheet Switcher Script

2007-08-03 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Ryan Moore wrote: page cannot be displayed...??? On 8/2/07, *Robert O'Rourke* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://webrocket.ulmb.com/ability/ http://webrocket.ulmb.com/ability/ Strange, works for me... The alistapart article someone sent you looks like a

[WSG] Julie Watkins-Lyall is away from the office.

2007-08-03 Thread julie . watkins-lyall
I will be out of the office starting 03/08/2007 and will not return until 08/08/2007. I am attending a conference and will respond to your message when I return. If you require an urgent response, please leave a message on my mobile 0422917755.

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 3 Aug 2007, at 16:08:55, Rick Lecoat wrote: At 12:41 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Note also that it doesn't actually work .../ snip / IE ignores fractional components of percentages - or, as another way of looking at it, only uses the first two decimal places of

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 3 Aug 2007, at 16:08:55, Rick Lecoat wrote: When dealing with this the other year, I came up with this solution requiring an additional div, which happened to be there anyway: body { font-size: 125%; /* bump it up to 20px, assuming browser starts at 16px */ }

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/08/03 21:14 (GMT+0100) Patrick H. Lauke apparently typed: Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 3 Aug 2007, at 16:08:55, Rick Lecoat wrote: When dealing with this the other year, I came up with this solution requiring an additional div, which happened to be there anyway: body {

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 20:14 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: (Still falls foul of a minimum font-size set in the browser preferences, though.) I wouldn't say it falls foul. If a user has set a minimum size, then a page should heed that. It still *respects* minimum font-size settings. Well,

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/08/03 16:16 (GMT-0400) Rick Lecoat apparently typed: So, in calculating your 'readable' text size as a proportion of the (admittedly overlarge) default size, you make yourself vulnerable should the user have already made their own compensation for the overly large default size. The

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Tee G. Peng
Hi Thanks for all the insightful feedback. I have a very limited freedom on this particular project. A previous version was done quite messy and it seemed time were waste quite a lot, so I was brought in to fix, clean up the code, but the end- client wanted the fontsize stays the same. The

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Felix Miata wrote: (Still falls foul of a minimum font-size set in the browser preferences, though.) I wouldn't say it falls foul. If a user has set a minimum size, then a page should heed that. It still *respects* minimum font-size settings. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/Clagnut/eonsSS.html

[WSG] Footer taking width from form

2007-08-03 Thread Lyn Patterson
Good morning http://www.colouru.com.au/contactus.html On this particular page in IE only, the #footer seems to be taking its width from the form. I have cleared everything I can think of but cannot find the problem. Thanks Lyn www.westernwebdesign.com.au

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Ah, a misunderstanding of terminology. I thought minimum font-size settings referred to things like Firefox's preference setting for disallowing fonts, even when resized by the user, to fall below a certain fixed size...while in this case y'all seem to mean the default

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Aug 4, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Back to Tee's problem with 'body {font-size: 62.5%}' etc in Opera/ Mac. It may be caused by the preset value for 'minimum font size' in that browser/OS. If someone can check the preset value for 'minimum font size' in an unaltered

Re: [WSG] Footer taking width from form

2007-08-03 Thread Scott Swabey
Lyn Patterson wrote: Good morning http://www.colouru.com.au/contactus.html On this particular page in IE only, the #footer seems to be taking its width from the form. I have cleared everything I can think of but cannot find the problem. Hi Lyn You have a typo in your clearfooter div:

[WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-03 Thread Cole Kuryakin
Hello All - After tearing my hair out for over 4 hours I come to you guys/gals for a fresh eye and perhaps a solution. I've got a simple class name (.active) attached to an a tag. This class is programmatically activated when a link is chosen and the page loads. When the chosen page loads, the

Re: [WSG] Footer taking width from form

2007-08-03 Thread Lyn Patterson
Scott Swabey wrote: Lyn Patterson wrote: http://www.colouru.com.au/contactus.html On this particular page in IE only, the #footer seems to be taking its width from the form. I have cleared everything I can think of but cannot find the problem. You have a typo in your clearfooter div:

Re: [WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-03 Thread James Gollan
FWIW seems to work in IE7 - dont have IE6 setup at the moment. On 8/4/07, Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All - After tearing my hair out for over 4 hours I come to you guys/gals for a fresh eye and perhaps a solution. I've got a simple class name (.active) attached to an a

Re: [WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-03 Thread James Gollan
you could try adding !IMPORTANT after the colour declaration just to see if it is an inheritance issue On 8/4/07, James Gollan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW seems to work in IE7 - dont have IE6 setup at the moment. On 8/4/07, Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All - After

RE: [WSG] Footer taking width from form

2007-08-03 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Good morning http://www.colouru.com.au/contactus.html On this particular page in IE only, the #footer seems to be taking its width from the form. I have cleared everything I can think of but cannot find the problem. Hi Lyn You have a typo in your clearfooter div: xdiv

RE: [WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-03 Thread Kepler Gelotte
When the chosen page loads, the chosen link turns deep red. The declaration for this is as follows: /*ACTIVE LINKS ONLY*/ ul#navTopSimpleUL li a.active { color: #CC0033; cursor: default; text-decoration: none; } Hi Cole,, You may want to also set focus on the element

Re: [WSG] Footer taking width from form

2007-08-03 Thread Lyn Patterson
http://www.colouru.com.au/contactus.html On this particular page in IE only, the #footer seems to be taking its width from the form. I have cleared everything I can think of but cannot find the problem. Another thing I find odd is that you are using an empty tag for your form

Re: [WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-03 Thread James Gollan
the given rule is not using a pseudo selector (:) - it is a simple class definition. This should be consistent across browsers. On 8/4/07, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the chosen page loads, the chosen link turns deep red. The declaration for this is as follows: /*ACTIVE

[WSG] CSS/IE Link Color Problem - SOLVED

2007-08-03 Thread Cole Kuryakin
James and Kepler - Thank you both for your input; I tried suffixing the color and text declaration with !important and that solves the problem. So this, I guess, is an issue of IE's built-in proprietary styles over-riding user styles??? I've never run into that one before. Irritating. Aside

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Aug 3, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On Aug 4, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Back to Tee's problem with 'body {font-size: 62.5%}' etc in Opera/ Mac. It may be caused by the preset value for 'minimum font size' in that browser/OS. If someone can check the