Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-15 Thread Kay Smoljak
Kay said > What I would do in your situation is hide the css > from Netscape 4 completely by using either the media="all" > attribute on your link tag, or @@import syntax. Jackie Reid said: >I actually dont really understand that stuff *cringe > with embarrasment* I know i read up on it at some

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-15 Thread Kay Smoljak
Ben Smith said: >To Kay: how do you eliminate the whitespace that CF processing adds? I >could never figure out an easy way to do it reliably.. Well, I use Fusebox, so all my non-display code is tucked away into cfinclude files with tags applied liberally. While I know that a few bytes don't m

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please - NOW IN DISCUSSION

2004-04-15 Thread Lindsay Evans
Folks, Discussion of coding practices is all well & good, but I think it's getting a bit off topic. If you'd like to continue the discussion, I've setup a thread in the discussion room for it: http://discuss.webstandardsgroup.org/archives/13.htm Please post any further comments there. Than

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-15 Thread Jackie Reid
Kay said >What I would do in your situation is hide the css from Netscape 4 completely by using either the media="all" attribute on your link tag, or @@import syntax. I actually dont really understand that stuff *cringe with embarrasment* I know i read up on it at some stage but as usual can't rem

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-15 Thread theGrafixGuy
"heavy plastic shell of the PDA with a carbon fiber shell weighing 25% or less of the original and again costing 100x as much. -Original Message- From: Leo J. O'Campo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Co

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-15 Thread Nick Lo
Hi Brian, I moved this onto a "trimming the fat" thread as I felt it was moving off topic from Jackie's post. Out of interest how much are you working with/sharing these files in a team environment? With the generally varying levels of skills (especially with CSS) in most teams I'd say that "

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-15 Thread theGrafixGuy
J. O'Campo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please Sure Hugh Any good programmer would never leave it off because it is good coding practice. Leaving off the semicolon just because they can, will

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-15 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
theGrafixGuy Good coding practice is for classroom, real world you want lean with as little waste as possible. I look at it like a space mission to the moon and every byte is weight - the less weight I have for the structure of the rocket (framework for the site)and still have a solid site, the m

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-15 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Sure Hugh Any good programmer would never leave it off because it is good coding practice. Leaving off the semicolon just because they can, will eventually come and kick them in the butt. And if it doesn't MSIE surely would. Remember the quotes in the old days. Leo On Thursday, April 15, 2004

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread Ben Smith
theGrafixGuy wrote: I always use instead of , instead of , red or #F00 I always thought , and "red" were bad coding practice - b / i are deprecated and colours should be absolutely defined.. ? Sure you save a few bytes, but connections are only getting faster, and correct display is more

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread theGrafixGuy
pretty stuff with new indents for every sub piece and a reduced indent for the way out. It all works in the end I guess. Brian -Original Message- From: Hugh Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread Kay Smoljak
Jackie Reid said: >http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/juganaut.html >http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/index.html I love the site - very nicely done. I ran it through Opera 5/6/7, Moz Firebird, Netscape 6/7 and IE6 and it looks fine in all of them - some sli

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread Hugh Todd
theGrafixGuy said, You do not need the “;” after the last attribute in each style I know this is technically true (browsers will accept it) but I understood that good coding practice is to put the semicolon even after the last attribute. Anyone else know anything about this? -Hugh Todd ***

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread theGrafixGuy
Yep - one of the tools I use! -Original Message- From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please theGrafixGuy said: >Once all done remove all spaces between the commas and

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread Kay Smoljak
Kay Smoljak said: > I have two stylesweepers set up - one for "readable" > (nice spacing etc) and one for "production" (every > extra space removed). One click (ok, maybe two) > and your css is transformed... Jackie Reid said: > Good grief.. thats amazing!!! Thanks a bundle Kay. No worries. It'

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread theGrafixGuy
: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please   GraphixGuydo you mean this...?   p {text-align:justify;line-height:130%;font-size:75%;margin: 0 0 10px 0;} div#quote {background-color: #e2dfd5; width: 181px;display

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread Jackie Reid
ssage - From: "Kay Smoljak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please > theGrafixGuy said: > >Once all done remove all spaces between the commas and the semi-colons and &g

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread Jackie Reid
: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:57 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please Looks good overall thought you have a at least one spelling error - ability to life the 1kg load – should be lift I would think.   Anyway as for your CSS, you have a lot of fat that can be

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread Kay Smoljak
theGrafixGuy said: >Once all done remove all spaces between the commas and the semi-colons and >remove the rest of the returns and have one LONG line - all of these >together will trim A LOT off the size of the stylesheet - mine by itself in >a editing state with comments is over 18k but the versio

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread Beau Lebens
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jackie ReidSent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 11:23 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please Hi all...   if anyone has the time or the inclination could they please have a decko at these pages and give me some co

RE: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread theGrafixGuy
: Jackie Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please   Hi all...   if anyone has the time or the inclination could they please have a decko at these pages and give me some constructive

[WSG] Constructive Criticism please

2004-04-14 Thread Jackie Reid
Hi all...   if anyone has the time or the inclination could they please have a decko at these pages and give me some constructive criticism... like does it work at your end, any coding blunders etc! before i go at it hammer and tongs and start filling the content in. (have validated it ok)