This just arrived in my email:
Event: Sydney Townhall Protest to Stop Internet censorship filtering
What: Protest
Host: http://nocensorship.info ; http://wiki.efp.org.au/
Start Time: Saturday, December 13 at 11:00am
End Time: Saturday, December 13 at 4:00pm
Where: Sydney Town Hall Square
See you there. Bring your friends
Regards,
Anthony.
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On 03/12/2008, at 6:19 PM, Michael MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This just arrived in my email:
Event: Sydney Townhall Protest to Stop Internet censorship filtering
What: Protest
Host: http://nocensorship.info ;
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael MD
Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 1:43 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Fw: The Great Firewall of Australia
Don't ascribe to malice that which can be more easily explained by
mistake. I'll take ill-informed
And adding my 2 cents worth…
This is part of the grand conspiracy. The panic about porn / bomb instructions
on the web knee jerk is a smoke screen. What the government wants to do is
control how it’s citizen access media and hence ideas. They love the
traditional mass media because it’s easy
Andrew R wrote:
And adding my 2 cents worth…
This is part of the grand conspiracy. The panic about porn / bomb
instructions on the web knee jerk is a smoke screen. What the government
wants to do is control how it’s citizen access media and hence ideas.
This is part of the Great
Stuff like this always draws the conspiracy theorists out of the
woodwork—which isn’t too say it’s a negative thing—but for once I
think I have tamer views on the subject.
As stupid as some people seem to be, I don’t think Stephen Conroy is
stupid enough to not get it by now. In fact he
Don't ascribe to malice that which can be more easily explained by
mistake. I'll take ill-informed cock-up over conspiracy any day, as I
don't believe Australian politicians have the nous to manage a grand
conspiracy.
yeah a mix of very noisy religious extremist lobby groups and influential
THis is exactly my way of thinking, of what the firewall is really
about. Getting down to it though, and probable slightly off topic, if
you think about it, it's the church's and religious groups that really
control us through using government positions to do so. In saying, for
those of us
Its been a good read, but I think we've said everything we need to
say, and I can't think of any excuse to make it on-topic.
Thread closed.
So - Aussies, make sure you make your opinion known to the appropriate
people.
Rest of the world - please try not to snicker, point and laugh at us
Thanks for the detailed précis of the iinet situation.
Next time I get booked for speeding on the Sydney - Newcastle freeway,
I think I'll sue the RTA. Well, after all, they provided me with the
road
;-)
Or maybe if you do speed, and don't get caught, then you can sue the
Police for
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Suitters
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:37 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Fw: The Great Firewall of Australia
Yes, real, definitely. But think about it, the government would already, and in
some part already do filter information. If they went
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 21:19 +1100, nedlud wrote:
Okay, so I *should* be concerned about this, in spite of what my
common sense tells me.
So what can we, as web professionals (in Australia), do about it?
I've signed the getup petition. What's the next step?
You could _write_ a letter to
I wouldn't have sent this to the group if I'd had even the slightest
idea it was spam. Getup.org.au is a genuinely good site.
IceKat.
Brett Patterson wrote:
1) That, I do believe is a crock of shit!
2) If he does anything like that, he will be dead!!!
--and--
3) Anyone who believes in
I agree with Dave--a letter to Senator Conroy is the best approach.
The website previously mentioned (http://nocleanfeed.com/) is also a
good place to start if you want to take action.
I'm extremely concerned about this plan (and have been since I heard
about it a months ago) because at first it
I am hoping that the live testing/trial that will
be carried out early next year just shows that this
is technically unfeasible. It is quite stupid to be
filtering the internet for everyone in Australia,
when it is much simpler to be done on each individual
PC through the use of software
: Thursday, November 27, 2008 12:50 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Fw: The Great Firewall of Australia
I agree with Dave--a letter to Senator Conroy is the best approach.
The website previously mentioned (http://nocleanfeed.com/) is also a good place
to start if you want to take
Okay, so I *should* be concerned about this, in spite of what my
common sense tells me.
So what can we, as web professionals (in Australia), do about it?
I've signed the getup petition. What's the next step?
Nedlud.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am hoping that
Hi,
Usually I'm suspicious of this stuff but I happen to know that Get Up is
legit and thought the Aussie members of this list might like to know
about this.
IceKat.
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1) That, I do believe is a crock of shit!2) If he does anything like that,
he will be dead!!!
--and--
3) Anyone who believes in those ideas are fucked up, stupid, and this I can
promise, will NOT make it in this world, dead or alive!
4) Like I said, I think this a crock of shit, and possibly
Oh, it's certainly not spam. It's been all over
news, whirlpool, everywhere.
Brett Patterson wrote:
1)
That, I do believe is a crock of shit!
2) If he does anything like that, he will be dead!!!
--and--
3) Anyone who believes in those ideas are fucked up, stupid, and
this I
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Anthony Ziebell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, it's certainly not spam. It's been all over news, whirlpool, everywhere.
Yes, it's definitely real. I feel ashamed of being Australian right there.
--
Blake Haswell
http://www.blakehaswell.com/ |
Brett Patterson wrote:
1) That, I do believe is a crock of shit!
2) If he does anything like that, he will be dead!!!
--and--
3) Anyone who believes in those ideas are fucked up, stupid, and this I
can promise, will NOT make it in this world, dead or alive!
4) Like I said, I think this a
Haha, it's not spam, unfortunately the only entity that fits your rather
heated descriptive words on this topic is the Government of Australia,
who are pushing for this filter.
This *is* already happening in Australia and the Government have
seriously said they would like it in place. I know,
Hi Brett,
Where have you been, this is a very important very current issue facing
anyone involved in web based industries.
ciao
L
Brett Patterson wrote:
1) That, I do believe is a crock of shit!
2) If he does anything like that, he will be dead!!!
--and--
3) Anyone who believes in those
Yes, real, definitely. But think about it, the government would already,
and in some part already do filter information. If they went to the
extremes outlined though, don't you think that generally the public (not
just the web development community) would put up such a stink about it,
the
(Hoping this thread isn't off topic)
Isn't this all a storm in a tea cup? Last time I checked, Australia
was still a democracy, and while *somebody* must have voted for
Conroy, we (Australians) still get a say.
But aren't there some serious practical barriers to this? Would ISP's
seriously get
This is currently at the stage of the government looking for
expressions of interest from ISP's to set this up for a trial.
I only hope that this trial shows that this proposal is the crock of
sh*t that everyone says it is.
The previous Liberal government's proposal is a much more viable, and
As I understand it, tests have already been
completed in TAS? I'm not sure how accurate this is, though... as I
have not seen any results.
Andrew Barnett wrote:
This is currently at the stage of the government looking for
expressions of interest from ISP's to set this up for a trial.
I
Nedlud,
My understanding is that as long as the majority of elected members of
parliament support this proposition, it will be able to pass through,
even though it is technically unfeasible.
The Liberals and the Greens are very opposed to this legislation, and
it cannot be passed in the Senate
. It seems now they are testing it all in
reality with ISPs.
Andreas.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Anthony Ziebell
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 4:51 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Fw: The Great Firewall
Brett Patterson wrote:
1) That, I do believe is a crock of shit!
2) If he does anything like that, he will be dead!!!
--and--
3) Anyone who believes in those ideas are fucked up, stupid, and this I
can promise, will NOT make it in this world, dead or alive!
4) Like I said, I think this
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