Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread sam sherlock
This tangent has gotten quite interesting and turned out to be very informative indeed here is a basic prototype of a site I am making, still early doors yet http://s107442706.websitehome.co.uk/kos5/flash/ I am using flashObject to place the swf in the page. users with a version of flash les

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Andy Budd
I can't see what the point is. The W3C has no control over Java or many other technologies that are proprietry or closed, but that does not stop them from becoming or meeting W3C standards or compliance. The original question asked why the W3C hadn't written a spec for Flash. My answer still st

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Geoff Deering
Patrick Lauke wrote: Geoff Deering True, but that does mean that the W3C is in a position to release a spec for the *format*. I can't see what the point is. The W3C has no control over Java or many other technologies that are proprietry or closed, but that does not stop them fro

RE: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
> Geoff Deering > >True, but that does mean that the W3C is in a position to release > >a spec for the *format*. > > I can't see what the point is. The W3C has no control over > Java or many > other technologies that are proprietry or closed, but that > does not stop > them from becoming or

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Geoff Deering
Patrick Lauke wrote: Geoff Deering It's actually the other way around, companies and organisation developing technologies are encourage to develop them according to W3C recommendations. That still does not detract from the fact that the Flash format is not a W3C technology. The U

RE: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
> Geoff Deering > It's actually the other way around, companies and organisation > developing technologies are encourage to develop them > according to W3C > recommendations. That still does not detract from the fact that the Flash format is not a W3C technology. > The UAAG applies to Flash.

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Geoff Deering
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: And now I just realised that the original question was not about accessibility, but about specifications in general (such as the XHTML/CSS/etc ones). In which case, even more of a reason why the W3C can't release a spec for Flash: it's not their technology. They can't re

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
> Is flashObject the best method for encorperating flash into pages? > as aposed to others plain mark up (object / embed), flash Satay, or sIFR > I think sIFR should be left out of this because it's goal is different. You can't have general flash content with sIFR - it's for typographical enh

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread sam sherlock
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So. On 5/19/05, Andy Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nancy Johnson wrote: Is it true that the W3C has not done a spec for Flash? If that is so why? Because Flash is a proprietary product! So, the W3C is the web's standards body, and they only defi

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: So, the W3C is the web's standards body, and they only define guidelines for making official W3C technologies accessible. And now I just realised that the original question was not about accessibility, but about specifications in general (such as the XHTML/CSS/etc ones).

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So. On 5/19/05, Andy Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nancy Johnson wrote: Is it true that the W3C has not done a spec for Flash? If that is so why? Because Flash is a proprietary product! So, the W3C is the web's standards body, and they only define guidelines for making

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-19 Thread dszady
So. On 5/19/05, Andy Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nancy Johnson wrote: > > > Is it true that the W3C has not done a spec for Flash? If that is so > > why? > > Because Flash is a proprietary product! > > > Yours > > Andy Budd > > http://www.andybudd.com/ > 01273 241355 > 07880 636677 >

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-19 Thread Andy Budd
Nancy Johnson wrote: Is it true that the W3C has not done a spec for Flash?  If that is so why? Because Flash is a proprietary product! Yours Andy Budd http://www.andybudd.com/ 01273 241355 07880 636677 Come see me speak at @Media2005 in London, England, 9-10th Jun. ***

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-19 Thread Nancy Johnson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 17 May 2005 17:13>To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org>Subject: [WSG] make poverty history website>>Hi List,>>I visited the www.makepovertyhistory.org website last night and was pleased to see that the site uses Geoff Sterns FlashObject. This seems to reaf

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-17 Thread sam sherlock
---Original Message- From: sam sherlock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 May 2005 17:13 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] make poverty history website Hi List, I visited the www.makepovertyhistory.org website last night and was pleased to see that the site uses Geoff Sterns FlashOb

RE: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-17 Thread Mike Foskett
e 2k:)2 -Original Message- From: sam sherlock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 May 2005 17:13 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] make poverty history website Hi List, I visite

[WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-17 Thread sam sherlock
Hi List, I visited the www.makepovertyhistory.org website last night and was pleased to see that the site uses Geoff Sterns FlashObject. This seems to reaffirm my opinion that the flashObject method of placing flash in the page is more approprate than the MM object / embed code and flash satay