Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-10 Thread Katrina
Bob Schwartz wrote: First a disclaimer: heheheh I had to have my rant off-list before I could respond !:) How and why did the web get singled out from among all of the other publishing mediums to be by law accessible? It hasn't. Why aren't book, magazine, and newspaper publishers

Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-09 Thread Raena Jackson Armitage
On 3/9/07, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Accepted old media grandfather clause, only applies to new kids. I hope you're not thinking of Australian law, Tim. For example, televison broadcasters in Australia are in fact required to caption and had to *apply for* an exemption from liability

Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-09 Thread Tim
I should have said that laws apply to new kids on the block in theory. The Australian 1992 Disability Discrimination Act is a fairytale. Australian Law is Absolute fiction and un-enforced. State laws like Victorian standards are laughable. For example, Victorian Premier Bracks website, has a

[WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-08 Thread Bob Schwartz
First a disclaimer: This post does not reflect my personal views on web accessibility or handicapped persons, it is merely a collection of academic thoughts triggered by various posts of the past few days. How and why did the web get singled out from among all of the other publishing

Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-08 Thread Tim
On 08/03/2007, at 11:48 PM, Bob Schwartz wrote: Some meandering responses First a disclaimer: This post does not reflect my personal views on web accessibility or handicapped persons, it is merely a collection of academic thoughts triggered by various posts of the past few days. How and

Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-08 Thread Andrew Maben
On Mar 8, 2007, at 7:48 AM, Bob Schwartz wrote: First a disclaimer: This post does not reflect my personal views on web accessibility or handicapped persons, it is merely a collection of academic thoughts triggered by various posts of the past few days. How and why did the web get

Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Bob Schwartz wrote: How and why did the web get singled out from among all of the other publishing mediums to be by law accessible? It's a relatively new medium, and they may have a (very) slight chance to get it right. Isn't saying one can't (shouldn't) use, for example, a popup window on

Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-08 Thread Ben Buchanan
How and why did the web get singled out from among all of the other publishing mediums to be by law accessible? I don't know that there's a definitive answer; but I would suggest that part of the picture is that the web was created from the start to be usable to everyone. To put it another

Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-08 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Bob Schwartz wrote: First a disclaimer: This post does not reflect my personal views on web accessibility or handicapped persons, it is merely a collection of academic thoughts triggered by various posts of the past few days. How and why did the web get singled out from among all of the

Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-08 Thread Christian Montoya
On 3/8/07, Bob Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why aren't book, magazine, and newspaper publishers required to produce an audio or braille version of everything they publish? Old media... but how difficult would it be? I'm sure it could be done! Why aren't TV broadcasters and movie

Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-08 Thread Dwain Alford
On 3/8/07, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/8/07, Bob Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why aren't TV broadcasters and movie production companies required to sub-title all of their broadcasts or films, or have an off screen reader describing the scenes? tv manufacturers

Re: [WSG] web accessibility-some thoughts

2007-03-08 Thread Jermayn Parker
I also think it is a lot easier to make the website accessible than a movie and book. All it takes is some careful coding and you have an accessible website, but to make a book into brail takes a lot more effort [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/03/2007 9:48:46 pm First a disclaimer: This post does