Richard,
I think you're right on both counts...
Yes, in order for this to be effective the more professionals who
contribute, the better it will be.
And yes, absolutely, it's not about stating "this is the ONLY way
you can do this" but presenting a set of choices.
I look forward to seeing
ok forward to seeing the next stage ;o)
R
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From: "John Allsopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 11:59 AM
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Richard,
I don't know, Sam...
I mean, we're not forcing
Kat,
Keep in mind I am just a student,
of course then we'll discount everything you have to say by 40% :-)
but isn't something that describes it at site level more a
framework rather than a pattern?
I'd say that the difference between a framework and a pattern is that
a framework is a fu
Kevin,
dosnt ted drakes standardista rollyo search thingy sorta do this?
I'd suggest rollyo is a great example of a framework, which of course
uses existing search, page and page content patterns.
john
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Richard,
I don't know, Sam...
I mean, we're not forcing someone to use these patterns. But let's
face it, they're patterns because lots of people use them.
exactly. These patterns exist already. Its not about saying "you
should do these things in this way" rather "over time, when solvin
Samuel,
I think you'll find their are too many variables in a website to do
this easily. Plus you'll never convince designers to stick to those
set layouts :D
of course, it's not all or nothing. The more people who help build
this body of knowledge, the better it will be, and the more peo
Paul,
Love the idea.
thanks
I don't think it should be a replacement for many things
which are best learnt through hard expereince, but rather a 7 steps to
success guide for building a standards-based website.
things should not be hard simply for the sake of it. We need to
distinguish th
y, but for
more complex problems, as I have mentioned earlier, itss just not
flexible enough,
thanks for the thoughts,
john
etc...
What do you think?
R
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Richard,
Martijn van Welie's been hacking away at something like this for a
bit - check it out :o)
http://www.welie.com/patterns/index.html
indeed he has. I devote some space in the original webpatterns
article to discussing the strengths and weaknesses of what Martijn
has done.
There
>When we build
> sites, unconsciously we use patterns all the time - it's just very
> little work has been done trying to capture and document them.
dosnt ted drakes standardista rollyo search thingy sorta do this?
-Kevin MacMahongail
(pronounced macmonagle-sort of:)
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> In a nutshell, a pattern is a "a problem which occurs over and over
> again . and . the core of the solution t
In a nutshell, a pattern is a "a problem which occurs over and over
again … and … the core of the solution to that problem". When we
build sites, unconsciously we use patterns all the time - it's just
very little work has been done trying to capture and document them.
That's what I've sta
ccurring debates on mailing
lists (like those I mentioned in my first post).
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:01 PM
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I think you'll find their are too many v
Navigation section.
etc...
What do you think?
R
- Original Message - From: "John Allsopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:34 PM
Subject: [WSG] webpatterns and patternquiz
Hi all,
Some of you might have read my recent article, WebPatterns
PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] webpatterns and patternquiz
Actually, it would be great if we could have something like this which would
form a 'toolkit' of sorts where we can take 'developer-authorised' code
snippets and put them in our pages. Such as finally having a
Samurais and such
out there.
Best way to do breadcrumbs (once and for all)? Sure check out the Navigation
section.
etc...
What do you think?
R
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:34 PM
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Hey John :o)
Martijn van Welie's been hacking away at something like this for a bit -
check it out :o)
http://www.welie.com/patterns/index.html
R
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Subje
Hi all,
Some of you might have read my recent article, WebPatterns and
WebSemantics
http://westciv.typepad.com/dog_or_higher/2005/11/webpatterns_and.html
In a nutshell, a pattern is a "a problem which occurs over and over
again … and … the core of the solution to that problem". When we
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