One more thing will be required: Web pages need to be better on
compliant browsers.
So in an effort to coax standards compliance out of MS we should all
make sites look *beter* in non IE browsers?
I've yet to run across a client who loves standards and MS arm twisting
so much that they would al
Robert Reed wrote:
The only way I can see a browser beating IE is if it looks, feels and
behaves like IE in every way possible.
An average user will not go to the trouble of downloading and installing
another browser to replace the one they got with the OS - even if it has 25
On 19/05/2004, at 11:59 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
Opera will never do it. The UI is butt ugly, the usability is woeful,
and the whole thing feels a whole lot cheaper.\
Have you seen opera 7.50? And opera on mobile phones is reality,
not something "will never do it".
The only way I can see a br
> The only way I can see a browser beating IE is if it looks, feels and
> behaves like IE in every way possible.
An average user will not go to the trouble of downloading and installing
another browser to replace the one they got with the OS - even if it has 25%
better features. M$ will dominate
Title: RE: [WSG] 'It Works in Gecko Browsers ...'
I feel that Mozilla is by a country mile the best browser available, but the guy you're replying to there is right in my opinion. The average web user doesn't comfortably adapt to new environments all that well.
> The only way I can see a browser beating IE is if it looks, feels and
> behaves like IE in every way possible.
If it looks like IE, feels like IE, tastes like IE, then people are more
often than not going to be completely unaware that they ARE using something
that's not IE. Maybe that's what yo
>Opera will never do it. The UI is butt ugly, the usability is woeful,
>and the whole thing feels a whole lot cheaper.\
Have you seen opera 7.50? And opera on mobile phones is reality,
not something "will never do it".
>The only way I can see a browser beating IE is if it looks, feels and
>beh
On 19/05/2004, at 8:24 PM, Mordechai Peller wrote:
Some of signs that is might slip are increasing computer literacy in
the general public, increased awareness of Mozilla and Opera (media
reports, Opera on mobile phones, etc.), and increased acceptance of
Linux. We can aid this further by educat
Brian Foy wrote:
Neato CSS trick fails in IE? Dump it, at that point it's nothing but
bloat for the majority who won't see it (including your client).
Painful to hear, but a very good point.
Someday MS will get on the ball (we hope), until then, if we want to
make sites for the majority, we have
I know IE is a *huge* market leader, and I *do* make sure my sites work
in IE...
I agree fully with the "design for compliant browsers first, then go
back and fix IE*" way of doing things. From my own personal experience I
can tell you it is in fact easier that way. I think it's ill advised
tho
On 19/05/2004, at 10:49 AM, Mike Pepper wrote:
I may suggest you tip that on it's head.
Dead serious. I build in IE then ensure I adjust accordingly. I know
ahat
will happen in the Geckos.
If you start with IE then "patch" to Mozilla et al, then your thinking
is too near-sighted. The standards a
Mike,
I may suggest you tip that on it's head.
Dead serious. I build in IE then ensure I adjust accordingly. I know
ahat
will happen in the Geckos.
Here is why that might not be an ideal solution.
Unless you are exceedingly careful, you may well have something that
"works" in IE because of bugs i
I build in IE then ensure I adjust accordingly. I know ahat
will happen in the Geckos.
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Thi
This has been discussed ad-nauseum - it is fairly well documented that one
of the easiest and most efficient ways to build a website is to _start_ in a
standards compliant browsers, then once you're almost done, test in IE.
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