On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:43 AM, David Hucklesby wrote:
With all due respect, I suggest you are attempting to control the
uncontrollable far too finely. 0.9em is either one or two pixels smaller
than default, depending on the rounding applied by the browser. In other
words, you are already
On 7/22/10 7:13 AM, tee wrote:
On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:43 AM, David Hucklesby wrote:
With all due respect, I suggest you are attempting to control the
uncontrollable far too finely. 0.9em is either one or two pixels
smaller than default, depending on the rounding applied by the
browser. In
On 7/20/10 9:58 PM, tee wrote:
On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Mathew Robertson wrote:
On 21 July 2010 11:52, tee weblis...@gmail.com
mailto:weblis...@gmail.com wrote:
EM can fail miserably in below senario for IEs for p, li and span
tags due to inheritance making them very tiny and unable to
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:58 PM, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Mathew Robertson wrote:
On 21 July 2010 11:52, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote:
EM can fail miserably in below senario for IEs for p, li and span tags due
to inheritance making them very tiny and
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On 2010/07/21 11:47 (GMT-0400) agerasimc...@unioncentral.com composed:
I agree - I usually set just the body font for something like 95%, and
then the container font for 1em
Is that a good solution?
Almost. 95% on body is telling users they've screwed up choosing their
browsers' default
Modern browsers now implement page zoom, and so using ems for me is becoming
unnecessary. I get much better x-browser control with px's and so that is
the direction im moving in
Ed
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Hi,
I've been converting some of our
I must offer a contrary view to Edward!
Any page that requires a user with normal vision to have to zoom on any
device is, in my view, a sign of a really badly designed page on a
really smart device.
Pixels can be regarded as a proportional measure since pixel density
varies between
I actually think this is a really interesting, key area of current web
development, how about we add some links to resources putting either
argument forward?
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Phil Archer ph...@w3.org wrote:
I must offer a contrary view to Edward!
Any page that requires a user
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM, David Laakso
da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote:
Points is the way to go nowadays :-) .
Best,
~d
I think picas is the way to go ;)
here are some resources on the use of Ems vs Pixels
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Using_Font_Size
which links to these
://websemantics.co.uk/
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I must offer a contrary view to Edward!
Any page
Foskett, Mike wrote:
Has anyone on the list considered using keywords?
Mike Foskett
Has anyone conceived of a layout for the page using percent, em, /and/
pixel width, with the fonts specified in percent [ or em ] :-) ?
Best,
~d
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The basic plan that I follow is to use % for structural items, which generally
need to be proportional to other structural items, and ultimately the viewport
itself.
Then, pixels purely for borders and images,
And EMs only for text.
Margins and padding can be either pixels, EMs or % depending
On 2010/07/20 09:53 (GMT-0400) agerasimc...@unioncentral.com composed:
I've been converting some of our company public-facing static web-sites
from pixels to ems for layout and font-size.
But just recently I encountered several references that pixels are getting
back into popularity - as it
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The basic plan that I follow is to use
On 7/20/10 8:25 AM, David Laakso wrote:
Foskett, Mike wrote:
Has anyone on the list considered using keywords?
Mike Foskett
Has anyone conceived of a layout for the page using percent, em,
/and/ pixel width, with the fonts specified in percent [ or em ] :-)
?
Best, ~d
Eric seems to have
David Hucklesby wrote:
On 7/20/10 8:25 AM, David Laakso wrote:
Foskett, Mike wrote:
Has anyone on the list considered using keywords?
Mike Foskett
Has anyone conceived of a layout for the page using percent, em,
/and/ pixel width, with the fonts specified in percent [ or em ] :-)
?
Best,
EM can fail miserably in below senario for IEs for p, li and span tags due to
inheritance making them very tiny and unable to get consistence font size for
one block of content in different browsers not just the IE.
body {font-size: 100.1%}
p, li {font-size: 0.95em}
span {font-size: 0.9em}
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:52 PM, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote:
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I used to use EM only for font size, something I learned from this list. It
was time when you are new, you have no your opinion and know nothing about
exception that some fine ivory tower idea cannot withstand real world
On 21 July 2010 11:52, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote:
EM can fail miserably in below senario for IEs for p, li and span tags due
to inheritance making them very tiny and unable to get consistence font size
for one block of content in different browsers not just the IE.
body {font-size:
Yup. Check out http://nican.com.au/
On 21/7/2010 1:25 AM, David Laakso wrote:
Foskett, Mike wrote:
Has anyone on the list considered using keywords?
Mike Foskett
Has anyone conceived of a layout for the page using percent, em, /and/
pixel width, with the fonts specified in
On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Mathew Robertson wrote:
On 21 July 2010 11:52, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote:
EM can fail miserably in below senario for IEs for p, li and span tags due to
inheritance making them very tiny and unable to get consistence font size for
one block of content in
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