Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-02 Thread Todd Baker
Thanks Terrence Wood, yes the nav items work with images turned off, they have a bg color as well as an image. Jay Gilmore, www.smh.com.au has most of their images in these files -- http://www.smh.com.au/css/2005/img/sprite_section-strap.gif http://www.smh.com.au/css/2005/img/sprite_li.gif Not

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Todd Baker wrote: We are finding that the background images for our main navigation are downloading last and as such the white text is unreadable untill the background arrives You're assuming the background image will arrive. What happens if someone has images turned off? You should specify

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Alexander Todorenko
So you're saying that if images are disabled in the browser you navigation becomes invisible? Can you add a background color so the nav is readable before the images load? Alex On 2/2/06, Todd Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, We are in final testing for a largish site that uses

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Joshua Street
For the navigation, you can put all your nav images into the one file so that they all load at once, then use background-position to make them sit in place. As for making things readable before the background images download, how about setting a background colour as well? That way if users have

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Todd Baker
On 02/02/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're assuming the background image will arrive. What happens if someone has images turned off? You should specify a background colour as well. Yes indeed we are adding a background colour that its close to the graphic. Is there any

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Todd Baker wrote: On 02/02/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're assuming the background image will arrive. What happens if someone has images turned off? You should specify a background colour as well. Yes indeed we are adding a background colour that its close to the graphic.

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Lea de Groot
On 02/02/2006, at 9:59 AM, Todd Baker wrote: We are finding that the background images for our main navigation are downloading last and as such the white text is unreadable untill the background arrives .. almost last. The list that drives this is right at the topm of the source code. I've

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Nick Gleitzman
Is there any logic I can apply (ordering CSS etc) that will affect the order the browser requests and downloads background images? Bear this in mind, too - some browsers will call *all* images specified with the background property in your CSS file, whether they're needed for that page or

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Ric Raftis
Nick Gleitzman wrote: Boring, but multiple CSS files, one for each page, containing only the bg image declarations for that page. Maybe I've missed something, but why wouldn't you just have the one css file but declare the background image in the head section of each individual page?

RE: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread kvnmcwebn
nick Bear this in mind, too - some browsers will call *all* images specified with the background property in your CSS file, whether they're needed for that page or not. errr.. what browsers? I wonder what would happen if the seperate stylesheets were alled called in from one importer

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 2 Feb 2006, at 1:24 PM, Ric Raftis wrote: Nick Gleitzman wrote: Boring, but multiple CSS files, one for each page, containing only the bg image declarations for that page. Maybe I've missed something, but why wouldn't you just have the one css file but declare the background image in

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Terrence Wood
Todd Baker said: We are finding that the background images for our main navigation are downloading last and as such the white text is unreadable This makes for quite a usability issue. Is there any way you can revisit the design to ensure the text is visible with images turned off or not

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 2 Feb 2006, at 1:18 PM, kvnmcwebn wrote: nick Bear this in mind, too - some browsers will call *all* images specified with the background property in your CSS file, whether they're needed for that page or not. errr.. what browsers? Safari, from memory... it was a while ago. Later

Re: [WSG] Background-Image download order

2006-02-01 Thread Jay Gilmore
NickGleitzman wrote: On 2 Feb 2006, at 1:24 PM, Ric Raftis wrote: Nick Gleitzman wrote: Boring, but multiple CSS files, one for each page, containing only the bg image declarations for that page. Maybe I've missed something, but why wouldn't you just