Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/06/04 10:06 (GMT-0700) Paul Novitski apparently typed: Felix Miata wrote: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Sites/ksc/ On 2007/06/04 01:41 (GMT-0700) Paul Novitski apparently typed: In Firefox 2, when the window width becomes too narrow and/or the text size becomes too large to

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-06 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/06/04 12:33 (GMT-0400) Philip Kiff apparently typed: Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/06/02 11:06 (GMT+0100) Designer apparently typed: Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a max-width. []

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-06 Thread Designer
Felix Miata wrote: All that said, the way I judge the readability of any page is by the size of the bulk of its content and main navigation, not by a couple of minimal importance non-primary-content lines it contains. By that standard, Bob's is a substantial distance from comfortable to read,

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-06 Thread Joseph Taylor
Bob, You have to take everything that Felix says with a grain of salt to say the least. Don't get into a p***ing contest with his judgement of font sizes. Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 6, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Designer wrote: Felix

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-06 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/06/06 19:45 (GMT+0100) Designer apparently typed: Felix Miata wrote: All that said, the way I judge the readability of any page is by the size of the bulk of its content and main navigation, not by a couple of minimal importance non-primary-content lines it contains. By that

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-05 Thread Designer
Philip Kiff wrote: As Felix points out, your current template breaks IE's built-in font resizer (View - Text Size - Larger/Largest). This problem is caused by your definition of the default body text size as 14px. The use of “px” measurements for font sizes is not scalable under Microsoft

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-05 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jun 5, 2007, at 8:09 PM, Designer wrote: ... the htmlbody is ignored by all except IE6 I hope this is a typo. IE 6 ignores this (and NN4 in case you worry) as it doesn't understand the '' selector. All other browsers, including IE 7 support the child selector. Philippe --- Philippe

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-05 Thread Designer
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On Jun 5, 2007, at 8:09 PM, Designer wrote: ... the htmlbody is ignored by all except IE6 I hope this is a typo. IE 6 ignores this (and NN4 in case you worry) as it doesn't understand the '' selector. All other browsers, including IE 7 support the child

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-05 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 5 Jun 2007, at 12:09:44, Designer wrote: so the decent browsers work properly (even IE7!) This is a common misconception. IE7 _cannot_ resize text whose size is specified in pixels, in precisely the same way that IE6 can't. The use of the page zoom tool will enlarge or shrink it along

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-05 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 5 Jun 2007, at 19:15:39, Designer wrote: Nick Fitzsimons wrote: This is a common misconception. IE7 _cannot_ resize text whose size is specified in pixels, in precisely the same way that IE6 can't. The use of the page zoom tool will enlarge or shrink it along with the other content of

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-04 Thread Paul Novitski
At 6/3/2007 08:36 PM, Felix Miata wrote: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Sites/ksc/dancesrqb.html is the same basic layout, but without breaking IE's font resizer, with no special treatment for antique browsers, and without disrespecting the visitor's choice of font size. In Firefox 2, when

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-04 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/06/04 01:41 (GMT-0700) Paul Novitski apparently typed: At 6/3/2007 08:36 PM, Felix Miata wrote: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Sites/ksc/dancesrqb.html is the same basic layout, but without breaking IE's font resizer, with no special treatment for antique browsers, and without

RE: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-04 Thread Philip Kiff
Felix Miata wrote on EDT: On 2007/06/02 11:06 (GMT+0100) Designer apparently typed: Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a max-width. [] You can see it at:

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-04 Thread Paul Novitski
At 6/3/2007 08:36 PM, Felix Miata wrote: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Sites/ksc/dancesrqb.html On 2007/06/04 01:41 (GMT-0700) Paul Novitski apparently typed: In Firefox 2, when the window width becomes too narrow and/or the text size becomes too large to allow the headline The Dancer's

RE: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-04 Thread Philip Kiff
Designer wrote: Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a max-width. I've used an expression for max-width in IE 7 (pinched from Georg!). I've tested it in FF1.5, IE6 IE7, Opera 9, and Netscape 4.02.

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/06/02 11:06 (GMT+0100) Designer apparently typed: Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a max-width. I've used an expression for max-width in IE 7 (pinched from Georg!). I've tested it in

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-02 Thread Lyn Patterson
Designer wrote: Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a max-width. http://www.marscovista.fsnet.co.uk/newtemplate/template.html Hi Bob I think it looks good at 1024x768 and 800x600 but at 1280x1024

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-02 Thread Paul Novitski
At 6/2/2007 03:06 AM, Designer wrote: Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a max-width. I've used an expression for max-width in IE 7 (pinched from Georg!). I've tested it in FF1.5, IE6 IE7, Opera 9,

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-02 Thread Paul Novitski
Paul Novitski wrote: You chose a background image for the header that nicely repeats horizontally as the page expands. To be more versatile I think it ought to repeat vertically as well to support high enlargement in modest window widths. At 6/2/2007 11:08 AM, Designer wrote: I think I'm

Re: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-02 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 2 Jun 2007, at 8:06 PM, Designer wrote: I've used a simple table Nothing wrong with that, if NN4.x is in your group of target browsers. But you might like to consider adding a rule to your css so that the content of the RH column is anchored to the top of the cell - at present it's