Re: [WSG] CSS Site Check

2004-02-12 Thread Tim Lucas
Thanks Chris, looks fine! -- tim p.s. It's best to send attachments privately and off the list. Posting a link is ok though =) -- [WSG]: the poor man's browsercam Chris Stratford spoke the following wise words on 12/02/2004 7:17 PM EST: Attached are two screenshots of your website

Re: [WSG] CSS Site Check

2004-02-12 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
Looks fine in Safari 1.2, Firebird 0.7, and IE 5.2. One small this I saw is in IE the footer text runs into itself if the window is resized too small, say 600-700 pixels wide or smaller. Other than that and the usual mystery horizontal scrollbar, no probs. Lynx looks alright, but personally

Re: [WSG] horizontal nav bar nightmare

2004-02-12 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
I played with it a little and here's what I got. The horizontal nav bar needs some tweaking, although I don't think it's possible to do much about the small left area that's not covered on hovers. I got it as close as possible in Safari Firebird, have no clue about IE on the Win side as my

RE: [WSG] horizontal nav bar nightmare

2004-02-12 Thread David McDonald
Michael, Your layout is looking good. However, in Opera 7.2, the footer seems to be positioned half below the browser window. I have emailed you a screenshot off list. Regards, David McDonald Web Designer http://www.davidmcdonald.org Southbank, Melbourne Australia Mobile: 0403 332 140

[WSG] Might Find This Interesting...

2004-02-12 Thread Chris Stratford
hey everyone! im creating my own Blog. I decided to use a method for displaying the list - unlike any i have seen... let me know what you think - i just need to your opinion on how it looks. it uses the link:visited method, which i havn't seen used much... www.neester.com/blog.php the

RE: [WSG] horizontal nav bar nightmare

2004-02-12 Thread roger
hey you guys thanks for all the feedback. i ended up trashing that layout and starting afresh. http://www.desertstandard.net/yv2/ This has solved the Nav problem, except that now when I zoom the text the bar blows up in my face, any help with that would be appreciated. Also there is

RE: [WSG] horizontal nav bar nightmare

2004-02-12 Thread rlmoser
Also there is something going on at www.desertstandard.net/yv2/teachers.shtml with the footer bar. its like a missed closing a div somewhere but I cannot find it. Roger Looks to me like line 31 is missing a / you have div instead of /div I'm assuming that the div id=cont was just supposed

[WSG] Dodging CSS Hacks Tutorial

2004-02-12 Thread fatshady
Hey, this is my first attempt at making up a tutorial. By all means correct me on anything that's wrong :) ... this goes out to all you CSS Hack gripers on here heh. Enjoy. http://web.theward.net/dodgingcsshacks.html --Ryan Christie http://www.theward.net

Re: [WSG] Dodging CSS Hacks Tutorial

2004-02-12 Thread Anton Andreasson
http://web.theward.net/dodgingcsshacks.html Technically, Trident has got little (or nothing?) to do with CSS parsing. I found a post from liorean at css-d explaining this: Just as a note, Trident is the rendering engine of ie/w. It is not the XML, the HTML/tagsoup or the CSS parsing engine;

Re: [WSG] misbehaving footer

2004-02-12 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
The main page layout is way off center on Safari and buggy in Firebird. One thing I have notices is you're using align on tags in the html that should be defined in the CSS. XHTML should never have any kind of font, alignment, or color attributes attached to the html tag. Take aa look at

re: [WSG] Dodging CSS Hacks Tutorial

2004-02-12 Thread russ weakley
Replace padding: 1em 0; with padding: 0 1em; :) Original Message: From: russ weakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: [WSG] Dodging CSS Hacks Tutorial Date: Fri 13 Feb 2004 07:56:24 +1100 Hi Ryan, Excellent article! Can I suggest a couple of small points: Within the

Re: [WSG] CSS Site Check

2004-02-12 Thread Tim Lucas
Thanks Michael, One small this I saw is in IE the footer text runs into itself if the window is resized too small, say 600-700 pixels wide or smaller. I'm choosing to ignore IE's lack of support for min-width. Other than that and the usual mystery horizontal scrollbar, no probs. Is it

Re: [WSG] CSS Site Check

2004-02-12 Thread Tim Lucas
Sorry.. forgot to include the URL: http://www.toolmantim.com/staging/main_layout.htm -- tim * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

Re: [WSG] Might Find This Interesting...

2004-02-12 Thread Ben Bishop
Hi Chris, I think this is really clever. Sure it only provides a visual cue, but it's very effective. Nice work. Regards, Ben Chris Stratford wrote: I decided to use a method for displaying the list - unlike any i have seen... let me know what you think - i just need to your opinion on how it

[WSG] CSS/XHTML NavBar and IE6

2004-02-12 Thread Paul Ross
Hello folks, (First post to this excellent list - thanks Russ/Peter for setting me up). I am trying to ditch the HTML tables addiction and keeping to standards-based designs from now on. The annoying thing is I can do this in 30 seconds using the 'old' methods but I'm having problems. I need

Re: [WSG] Dodging CSS Hacks Tutorial

2004-02-12 Thread Ryan Christie
Box A's background becomes the border when you make a 5px margin on Box B ... I believe I used the word appear... It's sort of faking a border, if you will. When built you'll see what I mean (and why it can only be solid) Robert Moser wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] blurted out: Thank you for the

RE: [WSG] CSS/XHTML NavBar and IE6

2004-02-12 Thread Hill, Tim
I think you need to remove the default margins on uls. So within; #navcontainer ul, I removed all the margins and added margin: 50px 0 0 0; *this basically means the same as; margin-top: 50px margin-right: 0 margin-bottom: 0 margin-left: 0; That fixes the problem in ie6, but you get the 3px

Re: [WSG] CSS/XHTML NavBar and IE6

2004-02-12 Thread Ryan Christie
Hi Paul. The gaps you speak of are part of the CSS parsing bug by IE. In any CSS declaration where width is in use with padding or borders or both, you must use the CSS hack to feed IE a false value and Safari, etc.. the right value. Or, you can use a method to get around using the hack. See

Re: [WSG] CSS Site Check

2004-02-12 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
Don't blame you. IE has been on my last nerve recently...ALOT. I wouldn't use the hack...it's a rather minor issue anyway, and the hack could cause other issues to arise...not to mention it's a hack. Looks fine in what I tried it in: Safari 1.2 Firebird 0.7 IE 5.2.3 Opera 6.03 On Feb 12,

[WSG] Getting to the bottom of things

2004-02-12 Thread Robert Moser
Say I have a header where I have the main text big and bold and in the usual top left position. Now in addition I have a little catch-phrase that I'd like to stick in the bottom right. How do I style the catch-phrase so that it stays in the bottom right even with the user changing the font

Re: [WSG] Getting to the bottom of things

2004-02-12 Thread russ weakley
Hi Robert, What you need to do is set the container (in your case the header div) to position: relative, and then subscript to position: absolute - and make it sit in the bottom right edge of the container. Like this: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/moser.htm No matter how it is scaled up

Re: [WSG] Getting to the bottom of things

2004-02-12 Thread Robert Moser
That definitely does the trick. I was driving myself crazy fiddling with line-height, padding-top, and position: relative on the subscript. The best I could manage was min-height on the header and padding-top on the subscript. The dual positions is so much nicer. Thanks, Robert russ weakley

[WSG] Friday Afternoon Funny

2004-02-12 Thread Chris Blown
Thought I'd share this one with everyone, we received a list of corrections today from one of our clients, and we found a particularly humorous snippet. This correction was given in relation to paragraph line length. It makes it hard for people to read if they have to keep moving their eyes

Re: [WSG] Friday Afternoon Funny

2004-02-12 Thread James Ellis
Hi Chris This is an important point they have raised - they are looking at peripheral vision. We see a circle of about 6cm on screen in one go - anything larger we have to move our eyes to take in more. This is why newspapers tend to be in columns etc etc. The Zed man has some good writeups

Re: [WSG] Friday Afternoon Funny

2004-02-12 Thread Chris Blown
Of course James, I know that for sure, just thought it was a funny way of putting it.. the paragraph is under 500px wide anyway I've tried to read without moving my eyes and its pretty hard.. ;) Chris On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 17:23, James Ellis wrote: Hi Chris This is an important point

Re: [WSG] Friday Afternoon Funny

2004-02-12 Thread russ weakley
James, Here is some info on ideal line length: The ideal line length for text layout is based on the the physiology of the human eye... At normal reading distance the arc of the visual field is only a few inches - about the width of a well-designed column of text, or about 12 words per line.

Re: [WSG] Friday Afternoon Funny

2004-02-12 Thread Jackie Reid
Hi Chris I thought that was really really funny and so did everyone else in the office. in fact its going to join the other quotes I have printed out and stuck on the wall that we read when we need to raise a smile in times of stress. Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor