Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-24 Thread Kevin Futter
On 22/5/05 10:23 AM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thierry Koblentz wrote: I was talking about the user, not the designer. Most browsers do not offer a Print Preview option Getting off topic (so perhaps email me back off list) but: which browsers exactly? I can't speak for

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-24 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 5/23/05 11:33 PM Kevin Futter [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I can't speak for all browsers, but I do find it annoying that Firefox on Windows has the print preview option, but Firefox on the Mac does not (latest versions). Makes it hard to recommend for verifying print output (assuming

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-24 Thread Rowan Lewis
Nothing wrong with styling states with CSS, but there is plenty wrong with using javascript to overwrite CSS states when you could do exactly the same thing with CSS. However, adding javascript to make a browser work like the others do is fine, but you should try to compress it some what, to save

Re: [WSG] Definition Lists

2005-05-24 Thread Peter Costello
Thanks Guys much apreciated. On 5/20/05, Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 May 2005 15:17:19 +0100, Peter Costello wrote: However, even though theres only one item, the dl seems like the most appropriate tag. Yep, if semantically its a list which just happens to have only

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-24 Thread Michael Lykke
On 5/24/05, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is said that flyout and dropdown menus belong to the behavior layer and that CSS should not be used to accomplish such things. Also, because this technique relies on CSS *and* Scripting it overlaps 2 layers; and that's supposed to be bad

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-24 Thread Joshua Street
On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 14:00 +0200, Michael Lykke wrote: Im just wondering - Cause sometimes it seems to me that alot of effort is put into making something correct way beyond just adhering to the webstandards. Like asking whether it is ok to use list definitions when the list only has a single

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Rowan Lewis wrote: Nothing wrong with styling states with CSS, but there is plenty wrong with using javascript to overwrite CSS states when you could do exactly the same thing with CSS. However, adding javascript to make a browser work like the others do is fine, but you should try to

[WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Tom Livingston
Hello list, Need a little help. I am building a page - http://66.155.251.18/platformrg.com/ - that was designed in a hard grid. Can I tweak this so that when text is scaled up, the boxes expand, at least vertically, to allow for the larger type as well as having the boxes maintain a

Re: [WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Graham Bancroft
Hi Tom Try changing the div widths form px to em, this allows it to stretch although I'm not sure what the conversion is, I think it's dependent on a few other things. Hope this helps some Graham Bancroft. ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Tom Livingston wrote: Hello list, Need a little help. I am building a page - http://66.155.251.18/platformrg.com/ - that was designed in a hard grid. Can I tweak this so that when text is scaled up, the boxes expand, at least vertically, to allow for the larger type as well as having the

[WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Matt Thommes
I know in CSS, there is a method to select the 'first child' of an element, as well as the 'first adjacent element', within an element. However, is there a way to select the 'next adjacent element' - within the same parent? Example: div class=picture /div h3Headline/h3 pParagraph text/p

Re: [WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Matt Thommes
Do you mean something like div.picture + h3 {...} I'm pretty sure I mean that - I am, perhaps, confused on what the plus (+) sign does. I was under the impression that your example meant this: div class=picture h3.../h3 /div .. rather than this: div class=picture ... /div h3.../h3

Re: [WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Matt Thommes wrote: I'm pretty sure I mean that - I am, perhaps, confused on what the plus (+) sign does. I was under the impression that your example meant this: Have a good read through http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/selector.html -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Tom Livingston
On May 24, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I think it'd be easier to start from scratch. My first reaction was... Yikes!, Are you nuts!, but then as I looked at it the light bulb came on over my head. I did redo it, although it isn't fabulous, it's useable at a couple of clicks

Re: [WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Tom Livingston
On May 24, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: On May 24, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I think it'd be easier to start from scratch. My first reaction was... Yikes!, Are you nuts! Me again, http://66.155.251.18/platformrg.com/people/ In IE5.5/6Win (and Opera 8 MAC) I

Re: [WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Tom Livingston wrote: My first reaction was... Yikes!, Are you nuts! Me again, http://66.155.251.18/platformrg.com/people/ In IE5.5/6Win (and Opera 8 MAC) I am seeing extra space under the image and can't figure out where the heck it's coming from. Can you? This is normal behavior. It's

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-24 Thread Rowan Lewis
I'm just saying that its silly to reinvent things like :hover with javascript and DOM but its perfectly fine to write javascript to fix browser incompatability (IE doesn't support :hover on all elements). On 5/25/05, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rowan Lewis wrote: Nothing wrong

[WSG] CMS list archive?

2005-05-24 Thread tee
Hi Russ or Peter, Where can I get to CMS list archive on WSG website? I don't see it in mail-archive.com. I saw a couple of thread on http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/archive.cfm after logged in, but it's hard to find related topic that I am interested in. It mix with WSG thread. Regards,

RE: [WSG] CMS list archive?

2005-05-24 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi tee, As you've found both lists are bundled together in the local archive, but the CMS list is separate in mail-archive.com (which Russ Weakley redesigned for them a while back btw): http://www.mail-archive.com/cms%40webstandardsgroup.org/ Or (a little easier to remember)

Re: [WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Chris Stratford
How well supported is this method - the +?? Any documentation of that? Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Matt Thommes wrote: I'm pretty sure I mean that - I am, perhaps, confused on what the plus (+) sign does. I was under the impression that your example meant this: Have a good read through

Re: [WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 25 May 2005, at 9:42 am, Chris Stratford wrote: How well supported is this method - the +?? Any documentation of that? The usual suspects: Firefox, Safari, Omniweb, Opera, IE Mac all handle this correctly. For the browser with way too much market share, you'll need Dean's IE7.

[WSG] change to Brisbane meeting

2005-05-24 Thread Lea de Groot
subtitle: I blew it! OK, small change to the June Brisbane Meeting - its the 14th, not the 7th! Venue and details unchanged - I just got the date wrong. Oops! (How I ever thought the 2nd tuesday in the month could be the 7th, I don't know. I'll blame it on lack of sleep and excessive stress.

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-24 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 5/24/05, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of interest: why not simply provide the alternative content inside the OBJECT element, as per specification? If the OBJECT itself can't be displayed (e.g. Flash is not installed), then the alternative is displayed...all without getting

Re: [WSG] change to Brisbane meeting

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Re: Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

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Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-24 Thread heretic
I thought that if Flash wasn't installed, the browser would prompt you to download and install it rather than just displaying the alternate content? Not necessarily - plus many browsers now give the option to *disable* the plugin which may result in different behaviour. For example I use

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-24 Thread Kay Smoljak
I'm not here to bash Flash - used properly, I'm a big fan. My concern when I developed the JavaScript detection method we use was to find a way that would work seamlessly as expected without nagging the user in as many different situations and browsers as possible - including IE5 which seems a