[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-07-14 Thread King, Kenneth
Title: Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org I will be out of the office the week of July 13 and returning on Monday July 18

Re: [WSG] Making a container div the same height as the longest div in it in mozilla browsers.

2005-07-14 Thread Mordechai Peller
Ben Wrighton - StraightForward wrote: Works in IE and Opera but in all the Mozilla browsers I've tested in (Netscape, Firefox and Mozilla) the container doesn't wrap around the divs. I know it's something to do with all the divs in the container div being floated. If anyone can tell me how to

Re: [WSG] Sliding Panels

2005-07-14 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 15 Jul 2005, at 4:34 AM, Chris Kennon wrote: Has anyone a sliding panel solution, such as this(http://www.siteexperts.com/tips/techniques), that is cross-browser and standards compliant ? Your sample: Directory Listing Denied. This Virtual Directory does not allow contents to be listed.

Re: [WSG] Sliding Panels[corrected URL]

2005-07-14 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, The following shows the correct request: (http://www.siteexperts.com/tips/techniques/panels/page1.asp) The example works in Safari and IE but fails in FF. Many Pardons and Thanks, C On Jul 14, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Nick Gleitzman wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 4:34 AM, Chris Kennon wrote: Has

RE: [WSG] Prototype Framework

2005-07-14 Thread Bret Lester
Has anyone checked out the JavaScript Prototype framework? http://prototype.conio.net/ Are there any good resources around that explain how it works? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Ross
Hello folks, I was reading the June 2005 issue of APC (Australian Personal Computer) magazine which has a cover story on unique features built into the long-awaited Windows Longhorn OS including the Avalon presentation system/user interface. This section really got me thinking: The most

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Jan Brasna
The most important difference between Avalon and the current Windows display architecture is that Avalon is vector based. The vector structure allows scalable graphics (windows, fonts icons), meaning designers can specify shapes and objects onscreen instead of mapping elements using pixels and

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 15 Jul 2005, at 9:54 am, Paul Ross wrote: The most important difference between Avalon and the current Windows display architecture is that Avalon is vector based. The vector structure allows scalable graphics (windows, fonts icons), meaning designers can specify shapes and objects

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread David Pietersen
But, if you're in the business of building web apps that target a specific platform.. :) We all do, really. I am at home, and don't have the research here, but current statistics show that 97.4% of all devices accessing web content are running on Windows. Every one of these machines has IE

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Seona Bellamy
On 15/07/2005, at 11:40 AM, David Pietersen wrote: But, if you're in the business of building web apps that target a specific platform.. :)   We all do, really.  I am at home, and don't have the research here, but current statistics show that 97.4% of all devices accessing web content

RE: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Bennett
hmmmI smell Troll... You don't work for Microsoft do you David? :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Pietersen Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:41 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Randall Potter
We all do, really. I am at home, and don't have the research here, but current statistics show that 97.4% of all devices accessing web content are running on Windows. Every one of these machines has IE on it. Really, are we mad to develop for anything else? Discuss. Bluntly, if you

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Jan Brasna
Really, are we mad to develop for anything else? Um, yes? Bridges are also built for conditions that don't occur most of the year. I mean - you should not 'develop' for a platform, but in compliance with some guidelines and compatibility in mind. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB ::

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread James Ellis
Hi all Please try and keep this conversation on topic. We're not in the business of getting into a mine's better than yours conversation here (take them off list if you wish). The topic of web standards and how they complement proprietary techs like XUL, XAML , Flash etc is quite interesting,

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread David Pietersen
HA HA HA Not exactly, I work for the Government. I don't think the statistic is that hard to believe really.My website gets 30,000 unique visitors a day, and the number of those using a non-windows OS is not even worth counting. I love Firefox, but playing Devil's advocate, how can we justify to

RE: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Now cut that out (smile or no smile)! I use Windows machines exclusively and prefer to browse using IE as that's what my main audience uses. I pick up many things that Russ on his non Win/IE combination misses (not that he doesn't check but they are not his defaults and things do slip through).

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Justin Carter
On 7/15/05, David Pietersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We all do, really. I am at home, and don't have the research here, but current statistics show that 97.4% of all devices accessing web content are running on Windows. Every one of these machines has IE on it. Really, are we mad to

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Jan Brasna
I work for the Government. So, that's sad. You shlould have DDA/WCAG in mind. Accessible page must be universal as far as posible. 30,000 unique visitors a day, and the number of those using a non-windows OS is not even worth counting. I love Firefox, but playing Devil's advocate, how

Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Vicki Berry
We all do, really. I am at home, and don't have the research here, but current statistics show that 97.4% of all devices accessing web content are running on Windows. Every one of these machines has IE on it. Really, are we mad to develop for anything else? Discuss. I realise you said

RE: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread wayne
I dont think XAML needs to be hosted inside IE? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Justin Carter Sent: Fri 15/07/2005 02:19 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards? I dont think Avalon and XAML will