IE will give you a security alert when you try to run a script from
your hard drive. You can change this setting in IE pref's or you can
insert a 'mark of the web' to force the offending page(s) to run in
the intranet or internet zone... google it.
kind regards,
Terrence Wood.
On
Hi
I'm currently developing a stylesheet for handheld devices. However
while testing I have noticed that the javascript I've written for
screen browsers is still being implemented while testing with
handhelds, causing a few problems.
Does anyone have any advice on how I can check if the
Will major search engines for phones take any notice of javascript?
Google
http://www.google.com/xhtml/
Ask
http://m.ask.com/
They ignore stylesheets even if you make one for small screens!
They strip the page headers of meta tags, linked javascript gone is my
guess?
Should we give up making
I am in the process of converting my javascript library to
nonobtrusive js.
I bought a few books and with them, managed to convert most, but I
still have a few that defy my very limited skills.
Where could I go for help in converting these?
Thanks.
I use a javascript that run into the ul list links and give them a
target=_blank on fly if someone click it.
I know that this may not be the best way, some people wouldn´t know
that a new window will open. I try in the some script to use a abbr
title=new windowNW/abbr inside of the a and only
Rather than just dissing someone else's contribution, why don't you come
up with a viable alternative instead?
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:41:41 +1000, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Sarah,
I would not recommend that a government department employs anyone who
does not themselves conform
What a statement! Are we hear for W3C standards or fiction?
ANyone touting for work here should be fairly subject to at least W3C
validation tests!
Or else! What are the standards?
A viable alternative Validated W3C XHTML 1.0 Strict with multiple
stylesheet options.
Mike Brown wrote:
- we don't want to get into a debate as to which usability consultants
are good or not, or even what makes a good usability consultant
Sarah, usability standards conversations are a hot topic over at the
evolt.org list.
Regards,
Barney
Tim wrote:
My meta tag base href were taken out of pages by ask.com the mobile
version http://m.ask.com/
This allowed them to run my site by relative URLs on their server with
fake paypal links en all.
Jesus, that's horrible!
Excuse my ignorance. It seems then, that all the best
Tim wrote:
What a statement! Are we hear for W3C standards or fiction?
ANyone touting for work here should be fairly subject to at least W3C
validation tests!
Or else! What are the standards?
I have to back this. In my mind this is exactly what this list is for.
If people can't go to the
They know better I recokon (Aust drawl accent LOL)
All we have to do is validate and accesibilitise :-)
No, sorry Barney for the pun, I hate the reality I want to make mobile
phone stylesheets that will be observed.
Javascript and anything else as the Guttenberg designer said to the
Pope
Tim
On 1/03/2007, at 10:25 PM, Lee Powell wrote:
Does anyone have any advice on how I can check if the device
accessing the page is handheld or screen and offer up the relevant
javascript?
Best bet - create a mobile specific domain... failing that you could
test for an arbitrary property:
On 01/03/2007, at 1:00 PM, John Faulds wrote:
Rather than just dissing someone else's contribution, why don't you
come up with a viable alternative instead?
On 3/1/07, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What a statement! Are we hear for W3C standards or fiction?
ANyone touting for work here should
Is the percentage of the list who might be interested an objective
criteria, for an objective standard like W3C.
AT LEAST 96.1% of the list (assuming that
_every_ member in Canberra
Coming to a town near you, a nip in the W3C bud time saves nine.
Tim
On 01/03/2007, at 11:12 PM, Joshua
Um ... as far as I know Hiser, as a rule, don't actually code sites - they
try to focus purely on usability. Which I believe was Sarah's original
request ...
_
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Bob Schwartz wrote:
I am in the process of converting my javascript library to
nonobtrusive js.
Where could I go for help in converting these?
Here, for one place. Can you be more specific about the problems?
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Barney Carroll wrote:
Excuse my ignorance. It seems then, that all the best opportunities
for designers to optimise for small devices and screen readers are
being usurped by the developers.
Do they really know better?
In most cases, sadly they do. The vast majority of sites can't be viewed
On Feb 28, 2007, at 9:03 PM, Mike Brown wrote:
or even what makes a good usability consultant
Perhaps, but I think what makes for usability itself should be a
concern to us all. What are standards for after all? Is writing valid
code an end in itself, or a means to an end? As I see it, it
Ian Stalvies wrote:
Um ... as far as I know Hiser, as a rule, don't actually code sites -
they try to focus purely on usability. Which I believe was Sarah's
original request ...
It's still an awful indicator. Although I've seen a lot of Australian
firms selling accessibility, and awards
You will find these books very helpful
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DOM-Scripting-Design-JavaScript-Document/dp/1590595335/ref=pd_ka_1/202-6135156-2275021?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1172759335sr=8-1
Thanks Mordechai,
I'll start with the easy one first:
var d=new Date();yr=d.getFullYear();if (yr!=2003)document.write
(copy; +yr); myplace
which gives me: © 2007 myplace
Here's my pathetic attempt:
window.onload = function() {
var para = document.createElement(p);
var txt1 =
Have one of them, DOM Scripting, which got me to where I am, I'll
check out the other two.
Thanks
You will find these books very helpful
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DOM-Scripting-Design-JavaScript-Document/dp/
1590595335/ref=pd_ka_1/202-6135156-2275021?
ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1172759335sr=8-1
This should not happen with Opera browsers (Opera Mini and Opera
Mobile). We specifically ask Google and other search engines not to
give us transcoded results when our users search using their search
engines. If they do then it is a bug and we want to know about it so
we can ask them to
Bob Schwartz wrote:
I am in the process of converting my javascript library to nonobtrusive
js.
Where could I go for help in converting these?
Perhaps related:
http://redotheweb.com/2007/02/28/unobtrusive-javascript-made-possible/
Bruce P
bkdesign
- Original Message -
From: Bob
On 1 Mar 2007, at 14:44:59, Bob Schwartz wrote:
var d=new Date();yr=d.getFullYear();if (yr!=2003)document.write
(copy; +yr); myplace
which gives me: © 2007 myplace
Here's my pathetic attempt:
window.onload = function() {
var para = document.createElement(p);
var txt1 =
On Mar 1, 2007, at 6:53 AM, Bob Schwartz wrote:
On 01/03/07, Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote:
I am in the process of converting my javascript library to
nonobtrusive js.
Where could I go for help in converting these?
Here, for one place. Can you be more
The Firefox Accessibility Extension 1.0 is a free tool which has an
important NEW feature to test dynamically generated web resources (client
side javascripting to generate html content) for functional web
accessibility features.
Download a give it a try:
http://firefox.cita.uiuc.edu
New
Nick,
Thanks. Now that I see how you have done it, I may be able to guess
my way through the others I have to do.
Is there a ( missing in the second line of your version?
On 1 Mar 2007, at 14:44:59, Bob Schwartz wrote:
var d=new Date();yr=d.getFullYear();if (yr!=2003)document.write
Rolf ,
Thanks for the info.
On Mar 1, 2007, at 6:53 AM, Bob Schwartz wrote:
On 01/03/07, Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote:
I am in the process of converting my javascript library to
nonobtrusive js.
Where could I go for help in converting these?
Here, for
Hi,
Just one more question about this page:
http://www.arena7.ie/index2.html
When viewing the above page with ie6 pc can you see the diagonal striped
bacground pattern?
I have ie6 running locally on an old machine thats offline and its not
showing up.
thanks for all the help
-best
Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
On 1 Mar 2007, at 14:44:59, Bob Schwartz wrote:
var d=new Date();yr=d.getFullYear();if
(yr!=2003)document.write(copy; +yr); myplace
which gives me: © 2007 myplace
Here's my pathetic attempt:
window.onload = function() {
var para = document.createElement(p);
var
Without more info...check the URL of the background image in your CSS?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:49 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] background image
Hi,
Just one more
On Mar 1, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Paul Bennett wrote:
Without more info...check the URL of the background image in your CSS?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:49 AM
To:
David Storey wrote:
For styling the page handheld stylesheets should be used. For
JavaScript issues I don't know of a way to specifically detect if it is
a handheld, and browser sniffing is far from ideal on mobile due to many
reasons.
Could you give an element a specific style in the
Hi David,
In my experience, you can't guarantee that a mobile device will be a full
fledged 'browser' (like Opera mini or Safari for the iPhone), so you don't know
if JS will be supported on a handheld device. This may be less likely now, but
is still valid.
Example: About 3 - 4 years ago I
On 1 Mar 2007, at 20:03:30, Mordechai Peller wrote:
Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
window.onload = function() {
var year = new Date().getFullYear();
var text = © + year + myplace);
var p = document.createElement(p);
p.appendChild(document.createTextNode(text));
Hello,
I have started putting together a site and I have an image with shading
around the outside and a transparent background which I need to layer over a
grey background.
http://training.xtools.co.nz/xplore_test/index.htm
I tried a .gif with transparency but it looked terrible with the
Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
On 1 Mar 2007, at 20:03:30, Mordechai Peller wrote:
Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
window.onload = function() {
var year = new Date().getFullYear();
var text = © + year + myplace);
var p = document.createElement(p);
p.appendChild(document.createTextNode(text));
hi robin,
my hp laptop leans toward the blue when viewing images, especially gray, so
i doubt if it's anything that you are doing. it would be nice if there was
a setting for a laptop lcd that would allow for a neutral color setting,
like 50% rgb respectively.
dwain
On 3/1/07, Robin @
Hi Robin
Internet Explorer 6- doesn't support PNG with alpha channel transparency (
i.e PNG 24 and 32) although it will support PNG8 with one transparent colour
(like GIF).
There are a myriad of articles on the web about getting IE6 to render PNG32
using it's AlphaImageLoader malarkey - ugly but
I agree with Dwain. My HP NX6325 laptop shows the same grey as my desktop
PC, but my HP NX9010 laptop shows a light blue. The green panel also tends
to yellow on the NX9010. Not much you can do about that, as far as I know.
James' comments is also true. The PNG file in IE6 comes up as a big grey
Search Engines don't read JavaScript but the question wasn't about
search.
Lots of mobile devices think that they are actually screen browsers so this
may be causing some problems - My phone (Nokia N73) has 2 browsers; one that
reads handheld sheets and one that reads screen sheets.
Can I
I think some platforms/browsers have trouble with PNG 32 also, graphics
cards etc that are not true color, user setting set to 16 bit and below,
these factors and more can cause image problems with PNG 32. Try it with
a PNG 8.
Gav...
quote who=Dwain Alford
hi robin,
my hp laptop leans toward
On 2/28/07, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This behaviour is by design, for security reasons when the script is sourced
locally (ie. if you load the website and script from your local machine) you
will see this alert; I don't get the message and neither will other
visitors.
To add to
The webmaster I'm talking to is responsible for URLs that end like this
*.cfm?doc_id=n ... and thinks it's perfectly acceptable
In that case, the webmaster is making dynamically generated pages.
URLs that end like that are necessary, because they're used to pass
variables to the page. The
but when I view this using a laptop the transparent background is
blue.
You must be using IE6 on the laptop
Is there something I am doing wrong?
Not unless you're a microsoft employee
If not what are my other options to make this work in all browsers and
viewing devices?
You can feed MS
On 01/03/2007, at 11:36 AM, Kenny Graham wrote:
The webmaster I'm talking to is responsible for URLs that end like
this
*.cfm?doc_id=n ... and thinks it's perfectly acceptable
. Beyond that, any way to get rid of the ?doc_id=n and
such at the ends of the URLs would require an
Thanks to all who contributed to this thread and helped me out.
Robin Gorry
Senior Web Developer
Xplore Net Solutions
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Your background doesn't show up in my IE6. Rolf and Paul's comments are both
worth checking out.
Ricky
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, 2 March 2007 5:49 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG]
No idea if it would execute in whatever handheld browser is needed, and my
brief research indicates this style grabbing in javascript is a bit flaky
cross browser even on the desktop, but you might be able to hack something
together that works a lot of the time.
flaky would be an
FYI, apologies, if it this has already been posted here,
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Hello Mobile Web Fans,
The recently chartered Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group [1] is
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