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Re: [WSG] positioning question

2007-12-16 Thread David Laakso

kevin mcmonagle wrote:

Hi,

On the below 3 column page

http://www.jfl.ie/index.php

Does that look allright?

-best
kvnmcwebn







Yes, I suppose so.

But there seldom is a correlation between how well a page /looks/ on the 
Web and how well that page /works/ on the Web (with user discretion in 
mind).


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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Rob Crowther

Michael Horowitz wrote:

It would be a wonderful world.

I can't imagine how government does anything but lower standards in 
these areas.


Assuming you're being serious, I would love to hear your reasoning for 
this.  With most things even remotely technical now happily existing in 
a market for lemons, the general effect of a free market seems to be 
to lower quality to the lowest level allowed by law.  Where does the 
impetus for high standards come from in your imagined utopia?


Rob


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[WSG] Strange CSS problem

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz
At http://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/ when I click on any of my 
links the text at Subscribe to this blog's feed turns red (which is the 
color is should change to when clicked.


Here is what I believe is the relevant CSS

.module a:link { color: #1e77f5 }
.module a:visited { color: #d22539; }
.module a:hover { color: ##1e77f5; }
.module a:active { color: ##1e77f5; }


ul a{
display:block;
width: 98%;
line-height:1.4em;
background-color:#1c1c1b;
border: 1px solid yellow;
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif
font-weight:900;
}

ul a:hover
{
background-color:#00;
}

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Re: [WSG] Strange CSS problem

2007-12-16 Thread Andrew Freedman


Michael Horowitz wrote:
At http://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/ when I click on any of my 
links the text at Subscribe to this blog's feed turns red (which is 
the color is should change to when clicked.




Hi Michael,

It's not doing it here - FF 2.0.0.11 or IE 6.0.

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Re: [WSG] Strange CSS problem

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz
Interesting as Andrew pointed out the issue does not occur is IE 6.  I 
have it only occur in IE 7 which would make it a new IE bug.   The 
frustrating part of typepad is I cannot delete the original css 
declaration only overwrite it with the new one.



I'm also new to learning firebug, how does it show you this is 
occurring.  I've mainly found it useful for javascript debugging.


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Simon Moss wrote:

Michael Horowitz wrote:
At http://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/ when I click on any of 
my links the text at Subscribe to this blog's feed turns red (which 
is the color is should change to when clicked.

.module a:link {styles.css (line 228)
color:#FF;
}
.module a:link {styles.css (line 730)
color:#1E77F5;
}

I don't know why IE7 should hark back to line 228 of the css after another link 
has been clicked, but I think that might help to offer some explanation - 
Firefox doesn't behave like this, I'm pleased to note.

(Incidentally the Firebug add-on for Firefox made spotting this 
straightforward).

Simon

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Re: [WSG] Strange CSS problem

2007-12-16 Thread Simon Moss

Michael Horowitz wrote:
Interesting as Andrew pointed out the issue does not occur is IE 6.  I 
have it only occur in IE 7 which would make it a new IE bug.   The 
frustrating part of typepad is I cannot delete the original css 
declaration only overwrite it with the new one.


I'm also new to learning firebug, how does it show you this is 
occurring.  I've mainly found it useful for javascript debugging.

I didn't realise that typepad gave those constraints. That is frustrating!

If you open Firebug in a new window and select the html in the left hand 
window, and css in the right hand window, then any html element that you 
click on in the left hand window will have all relevant (and 
over-ridden) css style rules for that element displayed in the right 
hand window. It's indispensable!


I think somehow IE7 is recognising an over-ridden style as still being 
relevant once another link in the page has been clicked - I assumed it 
was the rule on line 228 - but that is just a guess. I hope that's of 
some help.


Simon



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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz
Do you forcibly work for the government or do you offer your services in 
the free market?  Does your company hire the worst developers and 
designers or the best it can afford at the salary it is willing to pay.


In the free market their tends to be high and low quality products based 
on the price the buyer wishes to pay.  You can buy a Lexus or you can by 
Kia.  All transactions are between a willing buyer and seller.


I'd love Microsoft to follow standards, indeed I'm dealing with a IE bug 
right now that will probably be based on some standards violation, the 
question becomes should government be involved.



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Rob Crowther wrote:

Michael Horowitz wrote:

It would be a wonderful world.

I can't imagine how government does anything but lower standards in 
these areas.


Assuming you're being serious, I would love to hear your reasoning for 
this.  With most things even remotely technical now happily existing 
in a market for lemons, the general effect of a free market seems to 
be to lower quality to the lowest level allowed by law.  Where does 
the impetus for high standards come from in your imagined utopia?


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[WSG] CSS Image issue with buttons

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz
Adding to my issues I put a image on the server that I want to show up 
on my buttons but it isn't appearing.  Here is how I added the CSS for that


The image is definitely 
therehttp://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/images/atom.gif


/*define look of buttons*/
ul a{
display:block;
width: 98%;
line-height:1.4em;
background:#1c1c1b ;
border: 1px solid yellow url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
font-weight:900;
}

ul a:hover
{
background:#00 url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
}

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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Michael Horowitz wrote:

In the free market their tends to be high and low quality products based 
on the price the buyer wishes to pay.  You can buy a Lexus or you can by 
Kia.  All transactions are between a willing buyer and seller.


Only until you get to a situation of oligopoly or monopoly. Then, the 
quality of the product and its price often bear no relation. In that 
environment, products are not allowed to thrive on quality - even a 
remarkably better product can be squashed simply because of the 
stranglehold of the few or single dominant company/companies. Which, in 
the end, hurts the general consumer population as a whole, and can have 
ramifications that go far beyond just the market (politics, for instance).


But hey...Atlas shrugged, and so do I, as this isn't the right list for 
this sort of discussion. I'm just amazed that, for once, this wasn't 
triggered by the topic of accessibility...


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[WSG] Good resources

2007-12-16 Thread Carlos Carreo
 
56 Flash tutorials
http://www.blogcreativo.com.ar/56-tutoriales-de-flash/
 
65 Illustrator tutorials
http://www.blogcreativo.com.ar/65-tutoriales-de-illustrator/
 
800 Photoshop Brushes
http://www.blogcreativo.com.ar/mas-de-800-brushes-para-photoshop/
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MSN Noticias
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Re: [WSG] CSS Image issue with buttons

2007-12-16 Thread krugonN
On Dec 16, 2007 9:21 PM, Michael Horowitz 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Adding to my issues I put a image on the server that I want to show up
 on my buttons but it isn't appearing.  Here is how I added the CSS for
 that

 The image is definitely
 therehttp://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/images/atom.gif

 /*define look of buttons*/
 ul a{
 display:block;
 width: 98%;
 line-height:1.4em;
 background:#1c1c1b ;
 border: 1px solid yellow url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
 text-decoration: none;
 text-align: center;
 font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
 font-weight:900;
 }

 ul a:hover
 {
 background:#00 url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
 }

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You messed up the background and the border. It should be:

background:#1c1c1b  url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
border: 1px solid yellow;

Gonzalo González Mora


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Re: [WSG] CSS Image issue with buttons

2007-12-16 Thread Adam Martin
where in the folder structure is the css file?

On Dec 17, 2007 10:44 AM, krugonN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 16, 2007 9:21 PM, Michael Horowitz 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Adding to my issues I put a image on the server that I want to show up
  on my buttons but it isn't appearing.  Here is how I added the CSS for
  that
 
  The image is definitely
  therehttp://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/images/atom.gif
 
  /*define look of buttons*/
  ul a{
  display:block;
  width: 98%;
  line-height:1.4em;
  background:#1c1c1b ;
  border: 1px solid yellow url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
  text-decoration: none;
  text-align: center;
  font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
  font-weight:900;
  }
 
  ul a:hover
  {
  background:#00 url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
  }
 
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 You messed up the background and the border. It should be:

 background:#1c1c1b  url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
 border: 1px solid yellow;

 Gonzalo González Mora

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Re: [WSG] CSS Image issue with buttons

2007-12-16 Thread Adam Martin
try url(../images/atom.gif)

On Dec 17, 2007 10:44 AM, krugonN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 16, 2007 9:21 PM, Michael Horowitz 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Adding to my issues I put a image on the server that I want to show up
  on my buttons but it isn't appearing.  Here is how I added the CSS for
  that
 
  The image is definitely
  therehttp://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/images/atom.gif
 
  /*define look of buttons*/
  ul a{
  display:block;
  width: 98%;
  line-height:1.4em;
  background:#1c1c1b ;
  border: 1px solid yellow url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
  text-decoration: none;
  text-align: center;
  font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
  font-weight:900;
  }
 
  ul a:hover
  {
  background:#00 url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
  }
 
  Michael Horowitz
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 You messed up the background and the border. It should be:

 background:#1c1c1b  url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
 border: 1px solid yellow;

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Re: [WSG] CSS Image issue with buttons

2007-12-16 Thread krugonN
On Dec 16, 2007 9:54 PM, Adam Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 where in the folder structure is the css file?

 On Dec 17, 2007 10:44 AM, krugonN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Dec 16, 2007 9:21 PM, Michael Horowitz 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Adding to my issues I put a image on the server that I want to show up
   on my buttons but it isn't appearing.  Here is how I added the CSS for
   that
  
   The image is definitely
   therehttp://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/images/atom.gif
  
   /*define look of buttons*/
   ul a{
   display:block;
   width: 98%;
   line-height:1.4em;
   background:#1c1c1b ;
   border: 1px solid yellow url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
   text-decoration: none;
   text-align: center;
   font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
   font-weight:900;
   }
  
   ul a:hover
   {
   background:#00 url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
   }
  
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  You messed up the background and the border. It should be:
 
  background:#1c1c1b  url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
  border: 1px solid yellow;
 
  Gonzalo González Mora
 
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In ul a. I think that's what you wanted, but I'm not sure.

ul a{
display:block;
width: 98%;
line-height:1.4em;
background:#1c1c1b url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
border: 1px solid yellow;
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
font-weight:900;
}


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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz
Look how Firefox has grown to 16% of the market.  I think that shows how 
you are not correct.  I also suspect that Open Office is going to start 
challenging Microsoft as well. Especially is MSFT succeeds with 
establishing good copy protection


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Patrick H. Lauke wrote:

Michael Horowitz wrote:

In the free market their tends to be high and low quality products 
based on the price the buyer wishes to pay.  You can buy a Lexus or 
you can by Kia.  All transactions are between a willing buyer and 
seller.


Only until you get to a situation of oligopoly or monopoly. Then, the 
quality of the product and its price often bear no relation. In that 
environment, products are not allowed to thrive on quality - even a 
remarkably better product can be squashed simply because of the 
stranglehold of the few or single dominant company/companies. Which, 
in the end, hurts the general consumer population as a whole, and can 
have ramifications that go far beyond just the market (politics, for 
instance).


But hey...Atlas shrugged, and so do I, as this isn't the right list 
for this sort of discussion. I'm just amazed that, for once, this 
wasn't triggered by the topic of accessibility...


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Re: [WSG] CSS Image issue with buttons

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz
That was a stupid mistake but when corrected I still have the issue. I 
also should at least have had the hover working when I make that mistake 
and it didn't show either


/*define look of buttons*/
ul a{
display:block;
width: 98%;
line-height:1.4em;
background:#1c1c1b url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
border: 1px solid yellow;
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
font-weight:900;
}


Michael Horowitz
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krugonN wrote:
On Dec 16, 2007 9:21 PM, Michael Horowitz 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Adding to my issues I put a image on the server that I want to show up
on my buttons but it isn't appearing.  Here is how I added the CSS
for that

The image is definitely
therehttp://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/images/atom.gif

/*define look of buttons*/
ul a{
display:block;
width: 98%;
line-height:1.4em;
background:#1c1c1b ;
border: 1px solid yellow url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
font-weight:900;
}

ul a:hover
{
background:#00 url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
}

Michael Horowitz
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border: 1px solid yellow;

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Re: [WSG] CSS Image issue with buttons

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz

Solved it I had to use /images not images

Strange that it is so specific.


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Adam Martin wrote:

try url(../images/atom.gif)

On Dec 17, 2007 10:44 AM, krugonN [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Dec 16, 2007 9:21 PM, Michael Horowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Adding to my issues I put a image on the server that I want to
show up
on my buttons but it isn't appearing.  Here is how I added the
CSS for that

The image is definitely
therehttp://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/images/atom.gif

/*define look of buttons*/
ul a{
display:block;
width: 98%;
line-height:1.4em;
background:#1c1c1b ;
border: 1px solid yellow url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left
bottom;
text-decoration: none;
text-align: center;
font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
font-weight:900;
}

ul a:hover
{
background:#00 url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
}

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Re: [WSG] CSS Image issue with buttons

2007-12-16 Thread Adam Martin
As I said you need to change to

background:#1c1c1b url(../images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;

note the ../


On Dec 17, 2007 11:31 AM, Michael Horowitz 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That was a stupid mistake but when corrected I still have the issue. I
 also should at least have had the hover working when I make that mistake
 and it didn't show either

 /*define look of buttons*/
 ul a{
 display:block;
 width: 98%;
 line-height:1.4em;
 background:#1c1c1b url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
 border: 1px solid yellow;
 text-decoration: none;
 text-align: center;
 font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
 font-weight:900;
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 krugonN wrote:
  On Dec 16, 2007 9:21 PM, Michael Horowitz
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  Adding to my issues I put a image on the server that I want to show
 up
  on my buttons but it isn't appearing.  Here is how I added the CSS
  for that
 
  The image is definitely
  therehttp://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/images/atom.gif
 
  /*define look of buttons*/
  ul a{
  display:block;
  width: 98%;
  line-height:1.4em;
  background:#1c1c1b ;
  border: 1px solid yellow url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
  text-decoration: none;
  text-align: center;
  font-family: arial, lucida console, sans-serif;
  font-weight:900;
  }
 
  ul a:hover
  {
  background:#00 url(images/atom.gif) no-repeat left bottom;
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  You messed up the background and the border. It should be:
 
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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Christian Montoya
On Dec 16, 2007 7:06 PM, Michael Horowitz
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 Does your company hire the worst developers and
 designers or the best it can afford at the salary it is willing to pay.

I just finished working for a company that would hire the worst
developers and designers. I think it was something called outsourcing.
So, yeah.

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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Christian Montoya
On Dec 16, 2007 8:27 PM, Michael Horowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Look how Firefox has grown to 16% of the market.  I think that shows how
 you are not correct.  I also suspect that Open Office is going to start
 challenging Microsoft as well. Especially is MSFT succeeds with
 establishing good copy protection

Didn't OOo file a complaint regarding Microsoft's Open XML format? I
know they started a petition because Microsoft bucked their ODT format
and came up with their own, which has been rammed through the
standards approval process instead of ODT.

So even Microsoft plays the standards system, and OOo appeals to the
same powers-that-be as Opera.

Do you follow the news about the companies you support?

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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Michael Horowitz wrote:
Look how Firefox has grown to 16% of the market.  I think that shows how 
you are not correct.


Aeh..you ARE aware of the various antitrust actions the government took 
to prevent MSFT from becoming an actual monopoly, don't you? Without 
government action in the past, the growth of Firefox, or any other such 
product, would have been difficult if not outright impossible. Of 
course, the playing field is still far from an idealised free market, 
but thanks to government checks and balances it's at least not at the 
level of tight stiffling oligopoly or monopoly.


Again, this isn't the right list to discuss libertarian utopia...

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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz
Again this isn't about supporting one company over another.  It's about 
using the coercive power of government to control someone elses private 
property (which is what a business is)


I don't like a lot of how MSFT does things.  But they don't control the 
world.  Frontpage died while Dreamweaver dominates the web design 
market.  Not every website is developed in Visual Studio, some of us use 
PHP. 
Not every email is sent on an exchange server. 

I use Vista today and believe if MSFT keeps making such bloated OS's 
someone else will show up one day with a better mousetrap and MSFT will 
find itself losing market share in that area as well.


Ask yourself where have you ever seen government controlled economies 
beat a free market one.


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Christian Montoya wrote:

On Dec 16, 2007 8:27 PM, Michael Horowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Look how Firefox has grown to 16% of the market.  I think that shows how
you are not correct.  I also suspect that Open Office is going to start
challenging Microsoft as well. Especially is MSFT succeeds with
establishing good copy protection



Didn't OOo file a complaint regarding Microsoft's Open XML format? I
know they started a petition because Microsoft bucked their ODT format
and came up with their own, which has been rammed through the
standards approval process instead of ODT.

So even Microsoft plays the standards system, and OOo appeals to the
same powers-that-be as Opera.

Do you follow the news about the companies you support?

  



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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz

And see what happens to the company in the market.

6 months ago I was let go because my boss thought I was a threat to his 
job.  The company continues a spiral towards bankruptcy.  They are the 
oldest company in their business and their chief  competitor beats them 
every time they go head to head.  They only get the business that 
company doesn't want.  They are sued by their customers for incompetency 
on a regular basis. 

The free market does work.  It's ugly and messy, kinda like democracy.  
I'd be against it but nothing else works better. 


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Christian Montoya wrote:

On Dec 16, 2007 7:06 PM, Michael Horowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Does your company hire the worst developers and
designers or the best it can afford at the salary it is willing to pay.



I just finished working for a company that would hire the worst
developers and designers. I think it was something called outsourcing.
So, yeah.

  



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Re: [WSG] Strange CSS problem

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz
It isn't the overwritten style.  I verified that by changing the visited 
link to green


.module a:link { color: #1e77f5; }
/*.module a:visited { color: #d22539; }*/
.module a:visited { color: green; }
.module a:hover { color: #1e77f5; }
.module a:active { color: #1e77f5; }

and now it changes to green when I click another link.  Why would it 
think its link was visited when it wasn't?


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Simon Moss wrote:

Michael Horowitz wrote:
Interesting as Andrew pointed out the issue does not occur is IE 6.  
I have it only occur in IE 7 which would make it a new IE bug.   The 
frustrating part of typepad is I cannot delete the original css 
declaration only overwrite it with the new one.


I'm also new to learning firebug, how does it show you this is 
occurring.  I've mainly found it useful for javascript debugging.
I didn't realise that typepad gave those constraints. That is 
frustrating!


If you open Firebug in a new window and select the html in the left 
hand window, and css in the right hand window, then any html element 
that you click on in the left hand window will have all relevant (and 
over-ridden) css style rules for that element displayed in the right 
hand window. It's indispensable!


I think somehow IE7 is recognising an over-ridden style as still being 
relevant once another link in the page has been clicked - I assumed it 
was the rule on line 228 - but that is just a guess. I hope that's of 
some help.


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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Dylan Lindgren

Michael Horowitz wrote:

And see what happens to the company in the market.
The damage has already been done however. What happens when rather then 
it being a piece of software thats faulty, its a car. or a child's toy, 
or an aeroplane. Sure, eventually the company would get its just 
deserts, but only after the blood has been spilt. Government regulation 
is a necessary evil. It stops companies from taking advantage of a 
consumers lack of knowledge.


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[WSG] Do we just throw out the img tag

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Horowitz
Now that I have mastered putting an image in a site using CSS do we just 
throw out the img tag in standards based xhtml.  And how does the use of 
css compare with use of the object tag 
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/articles/askw3c/jun2004/ I found in my 
google searches on the issue.



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ADMIN [THREAD CAUTION] Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-16 Thread Lea de Groot
Guys,

While the thread is interesting, do try to keep it on the topic of *web 
standards*.
Some of the points which are either off topic or verging there include:
- is Microsoft the boogey man?
- should the government implement standards.

The thread is still open, and it will stay that way if *you* stay on 
toopic!
:)

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Re: [WSG] Do we just throw out the img tag

2007-12-16 Thread Adam Martin
I assume you mean you are setting a background image using css - now what if
you want another image on top - you use img tag for that.
For example have a look at http://qps.shockmedia.com.au/About-QPS - if you
resize the browser window you will see that the logo appears on top of the
image on the left. (I am aware of the navigation wrapping issue).

Cheers
Adam

On Dec 17, 2007 1:36 PM, Michael Horowitz 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now that I have mastered putting an image in a site using CSS do we just
 throw out the img tag in standards based xhtml.  And how does the use of
 css compare with use of the object tag
 http://www.webstandards.org/learn/articles/askw3c/jun2004/ I found in my
 google searches on the issue.


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RE: [WSG] Do we just throw out the img tag

2007-12-16 Thread John Hancock
Personally, I think the img tag has the correct semantics (and attributes) for 
an image. I'd just keep them for images in paragraphs and use css background 
for everything else.

An object is just that!

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Subject: [WSG] Do we just throw out the img tag

Now that I have mastered putting an image in a site using CSS do we just 
throw out the img tag in standards based xhtml.  And how does the use of 
css compare with use of the object tag 
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/articles/askw3c/jun2004/ I found in my 
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Re: [WSG] Do we just throw out the img tag

2007-12-16 Thread Christian Snodgrass

Michael Horowitz wrote:
Now that I have mastered putting an image in a site using CSS do we 
just throw out the img tag in standards based xhtml.  And how does the 
use of css compare with use of the object tag 
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/articles/askw3c/jun2004/ I found in 
my google searches on the issue.



No, we shouldn't get rid of the img element. There is a semantic 
difference between using CSS to put in an image (which is a background) 
and a normal image, which could be content.


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