Does everyone else on the list do this?
For the sake of 11k that is cached on the first page load it seems a
little drastic. I do programming work as well as markup and the
indentation/formatting of the code is very important in producing
readable code. If it was only me looking at the CSS
theGrafixGuy said,
You do not need the ; after the last attribute in each style
I know this is technically true (browsers will accept it) but I
understood that good coding practice is to put the semicolon even after
the last attribute. Anyone else know anything about this?
-Hugh Todd
Any web server worth it's salt will gzip compress static files, which makes
trimming all the whitespace a bit pointless. Ditto with any crazy-assed
class naming scheme you come up with to make things smaller.
I learnt most of what I know about HTML, CSS JS from viewing the source of
pages that
Yeah pretty well what I was thinking I mean in practice CSS files are
often shared and the very process of using CSS based layouts v's tables
already trims a huge load off the page size anyway. It just seemed
almost scarily ...thorough... to be trimming the stylesheet in this way
as well.
Nick
You know what they say... there's anal and then there's anal ;-). I've
been programming most of my life and can never figure out these guys
that do this. They'll shrink every K they can find white and comments
too. But they usually are the same ones that make all the syntax errors
and
Jason
An even better question is : What kind of irony is it when someone who
joins an open standards group considers practicing such
anti-open-standards technique? ;-)
Leo
On Thursday, April 15, 2004, at 02:34 AM, Jason Turnbull wrote:
Nick Lo wrote:
Does everyone else on the list do this?
I happen to be one of those people and I can say that the practice is
under utilized by the programming industry as a whole. And I am neither anal
nor ANAL, it is simply the method of coding I like to use once I have a page
developed to a point I no I will only be touching it up here and there.
Show me an instance where the last semi-colon missing on the last style
attribute broke something in ANY modern browser.
Good coding practice? Phooey - its a wasteful practice. I suppose CSS
shorthand is not good coding practice either.
Brian
-Original Message-
From: Leo J. O'Campo
On Thursday, April 15, 2004, at 03:20 AM, theGrafixGuy wrote:
I HATE bloat
You know Brian, for a person who hates bloat, you sure are full of it.
;-) lol
Leo
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LOL - what good is paper in space - get rid of it! Use a PDA with LiIon
batteries as they are a few ounces lighter than NiCAD or alkaline ;-) and
replace the solid plastic pen/pointer with a ultralight hollow carbon fiber
replacement weighing much less and costing 1000x as much - also replace the
Kay said
What I would do in your situation is hide the css from Netscape 4
completely by using either the media=all attribute on your link tag, or
@@import syntax.
I actually dont really understand that stuff *cringe with embarrasment* I
know i read up on it at some stage but as usual can't
Hi Brian,
You seem to be getting jumped on a bit for this and I'd say it's
largely a matter of preference so a little pointless to go on at length
about.
However, you are inviting comment by saying bloat and that is all the
stuff that makes code pretty and easily readable by inexperienced
Folks,
Discussion of coding practices is all well good, but I think it's getting
a bit off topic.
If you'd like to continue the discussion, I've setup a thread in the
discussion room for it:
http://discuss.webstandardsgroup.org/archives/13.htm
Please post any further comments there.
Ben Smith said:
To Kay: how do you eliminate the whitespace that CF processing adds? I
could never figure out an easy way to do it reliably..
Well, I use Fusebox, so all my non-display code is tucked away into cfinclude files
with cfsilent tags applied liberally.
While I know that a few bytes
I have been accused of that and worse ;-) You should hear what the wife says
:-)
Brian
-Original Message-
From: Leo J. O'Campo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Trimming the fat from CSS
On Thursday, April 15,
Wow.. this is fun... Im really glad i opened up this little can of worms,
the list had really been a bit too quiet for my liking today. ;o)
But to Brian... you made me think about the size of the css and I have done
some of what you said but not all..and even if the code is not absolutely
bare
Lea de Groot said:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:06:43 +1000, Nick Lo wrote:
Does everyone else on the list do this?
Mmmm.. not fanatically, but, well, there is a place for everything.
The very fact that we are on this list means that our level of fanaticism is somewhat
higher than the norm.
Hugh,
I always put in the trailing semicolon and would ask that this practice
be adopted by any team I work in even though it is not required.
When I wasn't particular about putting it in, I found that when the CSS
was later edited by either myself or other maintainers that inevitably
a bug
Hi all,
I've almost done with a small site for a client. Of course, I had to
choose xhtml 1.1, just to challenge myself, so that obviously imposes
some restrictions.
But I have a problem with IE 6 (yes, really ... :-), where the dropdown
- done with an unordered list - initially works, then
I was wondering if any of you had opinions/thoughts on the use of
CAPTCHA tests (or whatever proper name is given to the little numbered
images used to verify a form submitting user is human and not a
spamming machine).
They are obviously a reaction to the ever increasing amounts of spam
Warning signs go off in my head whenever I encounted CAPTCHA tests on
the web, and they scream: developer laziness!
The user should only be explicitly involved in the anti-spam process
when anti-flooding measures, spam-filters, Bayesian analysis, human
editors (god forbid! :) and whatever other
I was just wondering: is there was any way to instruct user agents to
treat text as preformatted, but to also have that same text break lines
to fill line boxes? I think this used to be achieved by using the wrap
attribute of the pre tag (with wrap and nowrap as values, I think?),
but I'm
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