Hi everyone,
I currently have a problem something like this:
div
{
width: 200px;
height: 100%;
overflow: hidden;
}
div
Lots and lots of content which we never expect to fit in the
box
http://www.browsercam.com/ - that really handy site that allow you to
preview screenshots of your webpage on all browser/platform combinations.
On 21 Jun 2005, at 3:04 pm, Tatham Oddie wrote:
div
{
width: 200px;
height: 100%;
overflow: hidden;
}
height:100% - 100% of what ?
if the parent container has no height declared, the 100% will default
to auto, and all the
I used once another div, with the same position and size, a greater
z-index, no content and a background-color set to transparent.
Roberto
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Tatham Oddie wrote:
Hi everyone,
I currently have a problem something like this:
div
{
I haven't got access to IE/PC right now, but removing the floats and
using display:inline worked for me in FF and Safari.
change these two rules:
#navbar ul {
list-style-type: none;
display:inline;
}
#navbar form {
display:inline;
margin-left: 6px;
}
On 21 Jun
Tatham Oddie
Lots and lots of content which we never expect
to fit in the box and we just want to be cut off.
However, we only want them to be able to see what
ould fit in the box. So, we need to stop them
from being able to click in the box and use their scroll
wheel. Another way they
Hi Mario,
That only occurs with IE v5.
IE v5.5, v6, Firefox, Netscape and Opera will all centre the design.
The only amend required to get IE v5 to behave is to add text-align:center to
the body element.
Then compensate for that alignment in the elements below:
* {margin:0; padding:0}
html
Hello all,
I would like to hide the styles of a site from I.E.5, so its pages
degrade gracefully (who ever invented this expression had a twisted
sense of humor) in this browser… I have a general styles sheet linked to
my pages, and I created another styles sheet, just for I.E.5, which I’ve
I have the same strange problem that you can see on this Apple site
page:
http://guide.apple.com/index.lasso
If you look at the left side column with IE (Mac) or Firefox (Mac)
the font is different from the one that you can see on Safari, iCab,
OmniWeb, Opera, and on all the Windows
Hello everybody.
I'm preparing right now some pages for a new client. I'd be glad to
receive some feedback about the code-structure of two of them.
The nested divs for the columns are coming from a template builder
somewhere on the net, and I'm using them since. Don't know if they are
all needed
Philippe,
This is within a container which has top:200px;bottom:150px; (or so)...
Thanks,
Tatham Oddie
Technical Director, Fuel Advance
www.fueladvance.com
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Hi All
Sorry about this off-topic post but I figure there are plenty of people on
this list that may be affected. I noticed this morning as I checked the
blogs that I read regularly that several are down due to database issues.
www.molly.com, photomatt, joe clark, 1976design.com, etc.
My blog
Hi Roberto,
On 6/21/05, Roberto Gorjão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to hide the styles of a site from I.E.5, so its pages
degrade gracefully (who ever invented this expression had a twisted
sense of humor) in this browser… I have a general styles sheet linked to
my
See http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/css_only/
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Hi Stefan,
An interesting article. Thank you.
Roberto
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Stefan Lemmen wrote:
Hi Roberto,
On 6/21/05, Roberto Gorjão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to hide the styles of a site from I.E.5, so its pages
degrade gracefully (who ever invented this
Good morning Mike,
I must respectfully disagree. I'm looking at my client site in FF, Opera,
Mozilla and Netscape as I compose this reply, and the page is left-aligned
using margin:0 auto in the body rule only.
However, it center-aligns the page when placing the margin:0 auto in a
container div.
Hi Mario,
I don't know what's different, but here's the test page I used to develop it:
http://www.websemantics.co.uk/test/centered_content/
Tested as working on:
PC: IE v5, IE v6, Firefox.
Mac: IE v5.2, Safari.
The test example has no margin set on the container div.
Though I don't really
Hi Tatham,
Width the necessary adaptations, I think this does the trick:
div style= position:absolute; left:100px; top:100px; width: 200px;
height: 200px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid black
a href=#Link to the article/a
pLots and lots of text. Lots and lots of text./p
div
Thanks Jan,
Great link!
Roberto
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Hi there guys, I'm new :) My name is Erica and I'm a 21 year old graphic design student (only 2 more years to go! Yay!)
I have a question though, and it's something that I've really been trying to put a lot of thought into.
When building sites using the web standards, the stone-age
There are people using netscape 4. They
tend to be stuck in government areas that do not allow people to update their
computers or those using old programs that require this browser.
It's easy to satisfy their need for
content and everyone else's desire for pretty pages. Simply link to a
Ah. Alright. Thank you for the clarification, andthank you forletting me know that Netscape 4 supports stylesheets at all. I didn't realize that there wasany stylesheet support for NS and IE4.
Is there somewhere I could download older browsers for testing by chance?
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Hi Erica--
I'm new to the whole Web design thing, but to answer your question, I would say No. Granted that's just my opinion, but the way I see it, time marches on and so does the Web.
regards,
g.
On Tue Jun 21 13:18 , 'Erica Jean' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
Hi there guys,
http://browsers.evolt.org/
/ironic
//posted using Netscape 4 webmail.
Ah. Alright. Thank you for the clarification, and thank you for letting me
know that Netscape 4 supports stylesheets at all. I didn't realize that
there was any stylesheet support for NS and IE 4.
Is there somewhere I
Erica Jean wrote:
Is there somewhere I could download older browsers for testing by chance?
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=msie
http://wp.netscape.com/download/archive/
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Thanks to both of you for the links :)
I really appreciate it ^^
---Original Message---
From: Brian Cummiskey
Date: 06/21/05 15:31:52
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Hi there!
Erica Jean wrote:
Is there somewhere I could download older browsers for testing
Hi,
also note that when using XHTML, say with help from Designing with
Webstandards from Jeffrey Zeldman, you can make a site that looks great
in newer browsers, and also works in older browsers...
Maarten
Erica Jean wrote:
Thanks to both of you for
Hi
I am having a similar problem with a site
I am developing. I have tried to make it XHTML and CSS compliant. The problem I
am having other than minor discrepancies between browsers is that in Safari and
IE on OSX 9.0 and maybe even some others, the whole layout goes skew-whiff.
I would check your web logs to answer this question. Using a program such as
Web Trends to generate reports, you can then tell where your traffic is coming
from and what your web site visitors are using browser wise.
Jeff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/21 Tue PM 03:07:41 EDT
To:
wayne wrote:
It’s for a design agency who is now
saying that this is a requirement;
And that's the crux of the argument: if the project documentation
clearly states that the site must work and look same/similar even in
older browsers, then that's what you've got to deliver. I always make a
Hi Patrick
Thanks for a thoughtful reply. It's easy to get lost in the arguments of
whether or not to support an outdated browser and forget that sometimes our
obligations are more personal. It's important to remember what you promised
the client.
Ted
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Marcello Cerruti wrote:
I have the same strange problem that you can see on this Apple site page:
http://guide.apple.com/index.lasso
If you look at the left side column with IE (Mac) or Firefox (Mac) the
font is different from the one that you can see on Safari, iCab,
OmniWeb, Opera, and on
Hi Patrick
Thanks for such an insightful reply. I have looked at the spec and as I
thought, we agreed on IE (5.5/6.0) and FF on Mac and Windows. I guess I
am going to have to write an email explaining my position.
Cheers
W
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Just a reminder to all the Aucklanders in da house - tonight is the
informal WSG get together at the The Belgian Beer Café in Takapuna (
136 Hurstmere Road) from around 7pm.
Looking forward to meeting some other local web standards geeks! Yay.
Darren
On 21 Jun 2005, at 9:43 PM, Marcello Cerruti wrote:
I have the same strange problem that you can see on this Apple site
page:
http://guide.apple.com/index.lasso
If you look at the left side column with IE (Mac) or Firefox (Mac) the
font is different from the one that you can see on Safari,
On 22/6/05 6:52 AM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcello Cerruti wrote:
I have the same strange problem that you can see on this Apple site page:
http://guide.apple.com/index.lasso
If you look at the left side column with IE (Mac) or Firefox (Mac) the
font is different from
Kevin Futter wrote:
As far as I'm aware font smoothing is handled by the OS in OS X, and apps
are hands-off in this regard.
Apps still need to be coded specifically to take tap straight into OS
X's improved Quartz rendering, as far as I know.
--
Patrick H. Lauke
I tend to use nbsp; alot when it comes to seperating
horizontal menu items with a pike "|". while this gives me what I want
visually,I've always been sort of intuitively uncomfortable with this
technique for some reason.
Here's what I tend to do:
ul id="topNav"lia
href="" title="James
I've just gotten comfortable using ems for font sizing in my
projects by starting out with font-size=1em within the body tag. Now I'm seeing
that some people are using font-size = 101% in the body tag. I seem to remember
someone saying that using "1em" in the body tag makes some versions of
I have the same dilemma and always feel uncomfortable about it. Yesterday I
accidentally 'discover' that by adding few pixel of padding in the .li or
.li a does the trick.
tee
I tend to use nbsp; alot when it comes to seperating horizontal menu items
with a pike |. while this gives me what I
Cole Kuryakin - x7m wrote:
Here's what I tend to do:
ul id=topNav
lia href=/latest/ title=James Danielikrsquo;s latest works.
accesskey=1Latest Works/anbsp;|nbsp;/li
lia href=read/ title=Download a chapter from The Raven and The
Hawk. accesskey=2Read A Chapter/anbsp;|nbsp;/li
lia
Cole Kuryakin - x7m wrote:
I tend to use nbsp; alot when it comes to seperating horizontal menu
items with a pike |. while this gives me what I want visually, I've
always been sort of intuitively uncomfortable with this technique for
some reason.
Here's what I tend to do:
ul id=topNav
personally I always use the default font sized provided by css...if I
need it bigger then I use em values. here's an example:
body {
font: small Arial, sans-serif;
}
p { 1em; }
h1 {2em; }
h2 {1.8em; }
etc...
That way you know that the font will _always_ be readable. Even if
you start off
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From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:26 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Proper use of nbsp;
Cole Kuryakin - x7m wrote:
Here's what I tend to do:
ul id=topNav
lia href=/latest/ title=James
Cole Kuryakin - x7m wrote:
So, what's the deal? is it better/safer to user 101% vs 1em to set the
initial font sizing for maximum cross browser compatiblility, or is this
just a matter of style and preference?
Two things:
* IE has a problem resizing font sizes properly if the topmost size
Gledhill, Scott wrote:
I also agree not to use nbsp; | nbsp; but find it much easier to control
look and feel if you make a small image of the divider
Yup, also a valid method of course. One thing to keep in mind: using an
image won't resize the divider if the font size is changed, while a
Kia Ora,
I've just relaunched my website and it was all going quite well until
i tried to look at it in Opera (8.0.2). it displays the home page
perfectly, but the moment I click on any link it tries to download the
page as application/octec-stream...what the?! Does this have
something to do
On 22 Jun 2005, at 8:58 am, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Apps still need to be coded specifically to take tap straight into OS
X's improved Quartz rendering, as far as I know.
IE Mac 5.23 was a release to update the hooks to use the OS level
rendering/smoothing. It doesn't do as good a job as
requirement; I have said that if they want an accessible site written in CSS
they can't have it looking exactly the same in older browsers that don't
support CSS 2.0 unless I use 'old skool' presentation techniques. Has anyone
else run into this problem? I suspect there are plenty of people,
Hi again,
Live Headers came to the rescue. Turns out my wordpress install
wasn't setting the get_option('html_type') var. So when wordpress
was building the header information is was passing NULL as the mime
typenot optimum.
I just hard coded my desired content type in wp-blog-header.php
I have been trying to detect ,using javascript , the css display property
(set via an external @import style sheet) of an element
Example
page: http://www.jimthatcher.com/site_resources.htm has a LI (class=skip
with CSS display:none.
but when i try to find this via the (IE DOM) i cannot locate
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