Re: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

I think the future of CSS is not in hack or in conditional comments but in using standard CSS. At the current time this isn't really possible because of Internet Explorer, but from what I've heard about IE7 they plan to do a fair amount of fixing up. Things won't be perfect and support for nice stu

Re: [WSG] Printing Footers

IIRC, position:fixed will do that for you, i.e. #footer{ position:fixed; bottom:0; right:0; left:0; height: 2em; } would create a 2em footer at the bottom of every page; however I don't know how well this is supported. Internet Explorer certainly doesn't support it. Krassy wrote: > Hi ev

Re: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

If at all possible don't use class names that describe the way something looks, but more what the thing actually is. I find that using names that discribe the style of something will almost always come back to bite you. And depending on how large you project is, it can bite pretty hard. I was work

Re: SPAM-LOW: [WSG] Java (JSP) v .net for standard and accessibility

Alan Trick wrote: It is possible to get ASP.NET to give you compliant code. Therein lies the rub in my opinion. Isn't the tool supposed to make your task easier? Who do you want in control, the designer/coder or the IDE? Would you in fact tolerate that level of fiddling with a hammer i

Re: SPAM-LOW: [WSG] Java (JSP) v .net for standard and accessibility

Actually, Tatham was kind of right in a way. It is possible to get ASP.NET to give you compliant code. However, compliance and web standards are *not* the same thing. Compliance is only part of web standards (and one of the smallest IMHO). Take for example the Internet explorer blog on msdn.com

[WSG] Floating dl problem - Indented text

I have run into a problem with IE6 (surprise!) when floating a to the right of content that is not contained in a tag. On the first line of the content, there is a 10 pixel indent that isn't meant to be there. The code works fine in Firefox. Example code: Caption goes here Som

Re: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

James Ellis wrote: > Conditional statements in HTML such as those used by IE/Windows are a > slippery slope and they seriously break a central tenet of > programming. They are contained with and > comments in code are not meant to be parsed as code. It's just plain > badness. I don't follow you h

Re: [WSG] new site designed - code walkthrough please?

adam reitsma wrote: A real stumbling block for me is font sizes. I dread the time i want to re-use a particular style, only to realise that the way i've nested the tags makes my text 2px high... http://www.bcct.org.au/v2 Maybe you shouldn't size down so many times through nesting then. Note

Re: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

James Ellis wrote: comments in code are not meant to be parsed as code. ... > What happens if someone adds a comment that happens to be parsed by some piece of software? the software then goes on and does some unexpected things. Then the software is broken, i.e. it does not adhere to spec. A

Re: [WSG] FW: Killersites.com Newsletter - Not another nerd newsl etter!

Just stay on this mailing-list and you'll hear *plenty* of points of view's :) p.s. It's good netiquite when your sending emails to a mailing list, to use text-only (no html nastyness). In Mozilla Thunderbird you can set this by going to Tools > Options > Coposition > 'Send and HTML options' - Sen

Re: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

Hi Conditional statements in HTML such as those used by IE/Windows are a slippery slope and they seriously break a central tenet of programming. They are contained with and comments in code are not meant to be parsed as code. It's just plain badness. What happens if someone adds a comment that h

[WSG] new site designed - code walkthrough please?

Hi peoples, I've just created two draft pages for a site i'm working on. Whilst I've spent years in HTML, and am relatively comfortable with the whole Web Standards ideology, this is my first opportunity to build a site from scratch. Yes, it's valid xhtml, and yes, it renders well in the browsers

Re: [WSG] FW: Killersites.com Newsletter - Not another nerd newsletter!

The whole idea that a float *even can* be sematically incorrect is absurd. Floating is simply a style, the way something is positioned and it has no implyed semantic meaning whatsoever. That said, it's an honour to know that were popular enough to warrant trolls ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What

Re: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

Drake, Ted C. wrote: > I think the future of CSS is not in hacks but looking seriously into > using the conditional comments. I'm saying this as someone that is > trying to figure out the best approach for retrofitting older > conversions. I rely heavily on Conditional Comments. IMO, the easiest

Re: [WSG] css variables

Hassan Schroeder wrote: > Terrence Wood wrote: > > >>Constants and variables are not going to part of CSS any time soon, so you >>will need some kind of server side solution ... >> >>AFAIK they all use seom form of regex to do the replacement > > > Well, no -- I frequently use variables in styl

Re: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

On Sep 29, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Anders Nawroth wrote: Conditional comments are IE statements that say if ie6 use this additional CSS file, if IE5Mac, use this style sheet, if neither: ignore this statement. Conditional comments are Windows-only, unfortunately. Conditional comments are va

[WSG] Printing Footers

Hi everyone, Is it possible to get repeated footers to print using XHTML/CSS? I asked this question on the CSS-discuss mailing list, but got no response. I've done some research[*] and experimentation, but haven't been able to get a footer to print bottom-aligned on every page. [*] http://www.al

RE: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

Hi Anders That's the beauty of them. We're sending a special style sheet to IE and the rest are ignoring it. And we can define which version of IE uses the style sheet. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anders Nawroth Sent: Thursday, Se

Re: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

Drake, Ted C. skrev: I think the future of CSS is not in hacks but looking seriously into using the conditional comments. I’m saying this as someone that is trying to figure out the best approach for retrofitting older conversions. Conditional comments are IE statements that say if ie6 use t

Re: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

Irina wrote: I've found this to be an interesting idea and wondering what other members think about it: "When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks": http://spaces.msn.com/members/siteexperts/Blog/cns! 1pNcL8JwTfkkjv4gg6LkVCpw!1805.entry The idea is not new, the logic has a lot of me

Re: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

On 9/29/05, Irina Ahrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've found this to be an interesting idea and wondering what other members > think about it: > > "When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks": > http://spaces.msn.com/members/siteexperts/Blog/cns!1pNcL8JwTfkkjv4gg6LkVCpw!1805.entr

RE: [WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

I think the future of CSS is not in hacks but looking seriously into using the conditional comments. I’m saying this as someone that is trying to figure out the best approach for retrofitting older conversions.   Conditional comments are IE statements that say if ie6 use this additional C

[WSG] When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks

Hi, I've found this to be an interesting idea and wondering what other members think about it: "When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks": http://spaces.msn.com/members/siteexperts/Blog/cns!1pNcL8JwTfkkjv4gg6LkVCpw!1805.entry#comment Cheers, Irina.

Re: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)

As long as I know, you shouldnt serve XHTML 1.1 as "text/html". You should serve it as text/xml, or application/xhtml+xml I read it may be... dangerous! But, of course, I dont really understand what I'm talking about I'm just repeating what I have read on several sites. Julián Christian M

Re: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

James, Read this: http://www.westciv.com/courses/free/week_05/managing_files.html and Tantek's presentation today at WE05, especially "meaningful class names" part http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/09/elements-of-xhtml/ Cheers, Irina. On 9/30/05, Nick Gleitzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: James

Re: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

James Oppenheim wrote: I tend to use underscore for class and id, try very much to stay away from two word file names. This is a question (discussion?) that comes up every couple of months here on the list - ultimately, I reckon you'll get as many 'conventions' in use as you've offered sugge

Re: [WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

Whilst it won't affect accessibility or usability for the end user (afaik) the class and id names should have semantic meaning indicating there logical function - rather than id="rightColumn" you might use id="localNavColumn" if the function of the column was to contain local nav. This means if

Re: [WSG] IE MAC just won't play ball!

I've found a 'bodge' using the faux column thing. Repeated a "wrapper" background image for the body and it covers a multitude of sins!On 9/28/05, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I noticed one other thing worth mentioning on the charismalab site.Your container div with the background

[WSG] CSS class and id naming conventions

Hi all, Does anyone know of a set of naming conventions for css classes and ids? Should they have semantic meaning? I.E. “address” rather than “bottom”. How should you go about naming the “right column” div. What about for file names. naming_conventions.html naming-conventions.html n

[WSG] Page review (XHTML and CSS) - Blacksmith's website

Hi everyone http://www.meetup.developer.graphyx.net/blacksmith/test/index.html This is my first attempt at creating a fully tableless design, using CSS for layout, and ems. The client does not want a fluid layout, and doesn't care too much about accessibility. I have validated the code and css,