On 10/3/05, Joshua Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So... is there any way to define this relationship? Or is it just
> order-of-content and hoping it makes sense? What if you were to put the
> cite after the quote for whatever reason (style guide convention, etc)?
Sorry Josh, there's no attrib
G'day folks,
my colleague Gian Sampson-Wild had some issues posting this to the list
so I'm forwarding it on her behalf. As such, apologies for the late notice:
From: Gian Sampson-Wild
Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2005 7:17 PM
To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'
Subj
Katrina wrote:
"Who has ever seen a div with a class of header? Why not use a header
(eg.) element?"
I may not have understood that. I may have misheard that. I'm sorry if I
did.
Aren't the header tags reserved for text? Is it acceptable form to place
non-textual elements only inside of hea
Paul Bennett wrote:
Joe Coyle, President, www.coylemedical.com
Mr. Cisneros and his team have an extraordinary talent for customer
communication, market vision, and web pageb design.
There seems to be a tendency lately to use definition lists for way more
than I think they're supposed to be
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 22:58:19 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote:
> Isn't < b > still valid? If you want to have a weightless way of bolding the
> text, but don't want to mess with a span, use < b > .
Yes, its 'valid', for low values of valid, but wrapping a cite element
around the name screams 'this i
On Sun, 2005-10-02 at 22:58 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote:
> Isn't < b > still valid? If you want to have a weightless way of
> bolding the text, but don't want to mess with a span, use < b > .
Yes. It's in the presentation module for XHTML 1.1
(
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/abstra
On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 12:39 +1000, Lea de Groot wrote:
> I would give strong consideration to:
> Joe Coyle, President
> .testimonialname cite {font-weight:bold}
>
> and think about working a q element into the actual quote-paragraph.
This immediately seems to make sense, but I'm left wondering
Isn't < b > still valid? If you want to have a weightless way of bolding the text, but don't want to mess with a span, use < b > . On 10/2/05,
Lea de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:23:50 +1000, Joshua Street wrote:> Joe Coyle, President and add> the rule> .testimonialname
Hm, I've been thinking about this. As far as I know, serving XHTML 1.1 as xml or xhtml+xml IS dangerous. It's not supported in most browsers. While text/html is not the right way to serve 1.1, it's the only way that works.
It's the way I serve my 1.1 sites, and I haven't seen any problems. Any tho
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:23:50 +1000, Joshua Street wrote:
> Joe Coyle, President and add
> the rule
> .testimonialname span {font-weight:bold}
I would give strong consideration to:
Joe Coyle, President
.testimonialname cite {font-weight:bold}
and think about working a q element into the actual q
On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 12:00 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Since the testimonial is basically a quote, why not use the element?
> Then use the presidents name within the element. This way it is
> semantic, and you still get to style the presidents name any way that you
> feel fit!
>
> Chee
Since the testimonial is basically a quote, why not use the element?
Then use the presidents name within the element. This way it is
semantic, and you still get to style the presidents name any way that you
feel fit!
Cheers
Nathan
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Wilson" <[EMAI
On 3/10/2005, at 2:28 PM, Paul Bennett wrote:
There seems to be a tendency lately to use definition lists for
way more than I think they're supposed to be used for.
As someone who was at WE05, Tantek mentioned that using DL, DT and DD
for anything other than definition lists is "abuse!":
<
2005/10/3, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> However, using a for an entire header (top area of a page) I think is a
> misuse of the tag. is meant for headings, not headers. A "heading", to
> my understanding, is the title of a piece of content and there will be
> generally
>
> Joe Coyle, President, www.coylemedical.com Mr. Cisneros and his
> team have
> an extraordinary talent for customer communication, market vision, and web
> page
> design.
feel free to bite my head off - I haven't been following this thread closely.
There seems to be a tendency lately t
Hi,
I haven't followed this thread completely, but I wanted to comment on
this specific post because some of your comments caught my eye and
another view may come in handy.
However, I think using to emphasize the author of the
testimonial is perfectly acceptable.
Because it's not going to
Yes. It's not as evil as some things, but it is certainly bad practice.
You'd be much better off using HTML 4.01 (which is, last time I checked
a valid spec).
Julián Landerreche wrote:
> As long as I know, you shouldnt serve XHTML 1.1 as "text/html". You
> should serve it as text/xml, or applicati
> -Original Message-
> From: Katrina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 3 October 2005 10:35 AM
> To: Web Standards Group
> Subject: [WSG] WE05
>
> "Who has ever seen a div with a class of header? Why not use a header
> (eg.) element?"
>
> Aren't the header tags reserved for text
On Sun, 2005-10-02 at 12:22 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> I appreciate your input, and I concur with some of your points, and will
> apply the changes
> accordingly. However, I think using to emphasize the author of the
> testimonial is
> perfectly acceptable. To create a rule and use tag i
Hi Kat,
I was there too (WE05) and heard the same line! What Tantek was referring to
was saying if your header for your webpage JUST contains say a title and
logo, then there may be no need whatsoever to include the extra
element (i.e. a with a background image and text). So what Tantek was
Quoting Katrina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Gday,
I was lucky enough to be able to attend WE05, and I was listening to
something Tantek Celik said and I've been mulling it over for a few
days, and I just thought I'd ask a group who'd know.
Context: I'm a uni student, so I don't know much.
Going b
Katrina wrote:
Aren't the header tags reserved for text? Is it acceptable form to place
non-textual elements only inside of header tags? Eg. src="image.jpg" alt="An image"> ?
You can put any inline content inside a heading...so an image (as long
as it has a proper alt attribute) is just fine
Gday,
I was lucky enough to be able to attend WE05, and I was listening to
something Tantek Celik said and I've been mulling it over for a few
days, and I just thought I'd ask a group who'd know.
Context: I'm a uni student, so I don't know much.
Going back to Tantek Celik, he was referring t
Nolan Winthrop wrote:
> http://www.47words.com
You're not providing enough width for all content to fit in the allotted
space . . .
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/47words1.png
. . . nor the content enough size to be comfortably read:
http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/area76.html
(the content s
> From: John S. Britsios
>
> I would highly appreciate if you would come over, and have a
> look at our new forums, and tell us your opinion or suggestions.
> URI: http://forums.webnauts.net
I tried to join using my name as the username, I was rejected
with the reason given being that the name w
Ok, For the moment being, I am going to ignore the links in the top right corner and the fieldset in the bottom left.
What do you think about the WAI issue? Keep the 's and
add in a small of text inside the link, or put all of the
text into a and use that?
--zacharyOn 10/2/05, Felix Miata <[
Hopkins Programming wrote:
> > http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/
> Ok guys, I've reworked some of the heights and background images to
> allow for extended text resizing.
> I think I got all of the big stuff, does it look & work ok for you now
> Felix?
You're still not giving several things
Thanks for the comments, Georg, Wybe. I've made some corrections to
it: notably shifting to percentages and ems for font-sizes; changing
to onfocus for the search form.
I do have one question that just came up while I was chatting with a
friend: "Does the hreflang attribute on links do anything,
Ok guys, I've reworked some of the heights and background images to allow for extended text resizing.
I think I got all of the big stuff, does it look & work ok for you now Felix?
--ZacharyOn 10/2/05, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm says:"
I have noticed that
some repeated background are not displaying in IE 5.5 since everything
else works I was wondering if the background issue could be resolved?
Also the perspective
from IE Mac is messy the styles are not applied or have obscure
results. I am not on mac so testing is a littl
http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm says:
"use plain text email"
Hopkins Programming wrote:
> On 10/2/05, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hopkins Programming wrote:
> > http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/
> Your px sized containers aren't giving their c
You can't just measure it by IE's +2 and -2, because for users with widescreen displays, the default is something like +1. This is because widescreen Windows XP runs at 120 dpi rather than the standard 96 dpi, and to compensate for small text, the text is automatically set to be larger. Therefore i
I can change those. But, the backgrounds are set not to repeat
vertically. So would it be better to a) Let the text flow into
empty white space; b) set a bckgound color and let it flow into that;
or c) let the background repeat?
Also, just how far up should I assume a user may set their text?
A
Hopkins Programming wrote:
> http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/
Your px sized containers aren't giving their content enough room to fit:
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/hopkinsp1.png
If you set height in em's vertical inadequacy shouldn't happen.
--
"Be quick to listen, slow to speak."
Hi Josh,
I appreciate your input, and I concur with some of your points, and will apply
the changes
accordingly. However, I think using to emphasize the author of the
testimonial is
perfectly acceptable. To create a rule and use tag is overkill.
Additionally, the image is
to provide a soft vi
Hey guys,
If you wouldn't mind checking out my website,
http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, I would greatly appreciate
it. There is one thing in particular I would like help with - On
the homepage, the 3 large images are divs w/background images, and
display:block hyperlinks. It works fine, but
Hi Nolan
I like it.
I was a bit surprised by the blue on hover. Surprise is good, but i
don't know about the blue.
In your search option you use some _javascript_ which isn't very stable.
If the focus is on the input field and i reload the page (in FF) the
hole thing is gone. No input field,
Okay, most of the points I made still apply. 1) is out, because you've
ditched the JS menu. 2, 3, 4, 5 (less now) and 7 still apply. You've got
images where you could be using background images in a H4 for the
special offers section, and I'd lean towards doing part of your
testimonial bit different
Nolan Winthrop wrote:
http://www.47words.com
Not exactly following "best practices", with font-sizes _and_
line-heights defined in pixels.
You're getting the usual result: blocking font-resizing
in IE/win and causing text-overlapping in IE/win and Opera if user
overrides font-sizes.
In short: h
I've finally bit the bullet and built a fairly (I hope) standards
compliant website, 47 Words (http://www.47words.com). I've just run
it through the W3 Validators (CSS and XHTML) and it validates.
I'd really appreciate comments on the code, design, any ways I could
make the markup more semantic,
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