RE: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash
I like your test page. I find it quite useful. I've bookmarked it to share it with some friends. Eileen Russell http://www.bytedreams.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:05 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html Don't wuite understand what you are asking, but lol, asked several questions recently myself about valid swf files and why one worked in IE and not in FF. Here is my test page with several examples. - Original Message - From: "Martin Heiden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sean Jones" Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash > Sean, > > Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote: > > SJ> scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to > embed > SJ> flash using CSS. > > I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these > methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed > flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also > use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is > really no need to do so.) > > Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for > your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that Jesse > already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single > maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS, favourite server side programming language her>, or simple Dreamweaver > templates to do so.) > > If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional > comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the > specific browsers: > > > > > > > > > > > > This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments. > IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about > that. > > I hope, I could help you. > > Martin. > > PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed > flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't > imagine that. > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 > > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:;bytedreams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) FN:bytedreams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20050718T045116Z END:VCARD
[WSG] Flash as background (Was: CSS and Flash)
On 2/24/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: your prob right but what about that flash as a css background someone wasposting about here a while back??this sounds interesting if it is possible. i was just working on something where this would have been useful, but i wasn't on the list when it was talked about. does anyone know about the possibility of using a flash object as a background (if it is even possible/worthwhile)? thanks!
Re: [WSG] Fluid layout
Felix Miata wrote: Speaking of sizing things in px, particularly line lengths, when discussing fluid layouts, makes no sense to me. I find an 800px line length perfectly fine, and a 500px line length rather short, when I'm using a 28px default. Line lengths are better set relative to text size: And I prefer to use /eye-movement/ when measuring what I see as a suitable line-length - regardless of font-size and the number of letters on each line. To be precise: I hardly move my eyes sideways at all when I read text on web pages - using the same reading-technique as when I read most printed material, and I read web pages on a 1280 x 1024 screen with 72px/inch. Viewing-distance is approximately 1.3 meter, and I set my browser(s) to 'min font size = 14px' in order to average out various font-families and font-sizes defined in web pages to an acceptable size. IE/win is set at 'ignore font size / medium' when it's occasionally used on the web. Doesn't happen too often. If web pages scale text-lines too wide for my liking - as some do when they set line-lengths relative to text size, then I either shrink the browser-window and/or use 'fit to window width' - in Opera. That's _my_ preference as both web user and web developer. Everyone else may of course have their own preferences. That's what makes the web so user-friendly, in that we all may have it our own way if we only know how :-) Now, as _you_ know; I test my own creations to the extremes, since I like to know what they may come out as - even if it doesn't make any sense to me. I still don't care much about how visitors like it or not - I just try to accommodate them the best I know how to. The fact that I sometimes express what my own preferences are, is within the scope of most discussion lists. We may of course discuss those here if you like, as some may find such a discussion useful in case they haven't made up their own mind about these matters already. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Fluid layout
On 06/02/24 16:04 Gunlaug Sørtun apparently typed: Personal preference: I don't think text-lines should be wider than 600 - 800px on any monitor, as long lines are generally harder to follow and read than somewhat width-limited ones. Max-width might work for you. Speaking of sizing things in px, particularly line lengths, when discussing fluid layouts, makes no sense to me. I find an 800px line length perfectly fine, and a 500px line length rather short, when I'm using a 28px default. Line lengths are better set relative to text size: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/fflinelength.html http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/fflinelength.jpg -- "Love your neighbor as yourself." Mark 12:31 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/auth ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Fluid layout
Adam Morris wrote: http://www.megustalatelevision.com/uwish Observation: Fine, 840 - 3800. ...looks like any other fixed-width pages around. http://www.megustalatelevision.com/uwish/index1.html Observation: Main column drops below 1000px. OK (more or less), 1024 - 1600. Background-problems (breaking up), 1933 - 3800. Suggestion: Float 'column' at a fixed width (px), and leave 'contenttext' in the flow with fixed (px) margins and with 'width: auto'. Make it stable from 750 to 1600 (or wider). Personal preference: I don't think text-lines should be wider than 600 - 800px on any monitor, as long lines are generally harder to follow and read than somewhat width-limited ones. Max-width might work for you. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash
http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html Don't wuite understand what you are asking, but lol, asked several questions recently myself about valid swf files and why one worked in IE and not in FF. Here is my test page with several examples. - Original Message - From: "Martin Heiden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sean Jones" Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash Sean, Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote: SJ> scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to embed SJ> flash using CSS. I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is really no need to do so.) Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that Jesse already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS, , or simple Dreamweaver templates to do so.) If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the specific browsers: This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments. IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about that. I hope, I could help you. Martin. PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't imagine that. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash
Sean, Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote: SJ> scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to embed SJ> flash using CSS. I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is really no need to do so.) Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that Jesse already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS, , or simple Dreamweaver templates to do so.) If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the specific browsers: This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments. IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about that. I hope, I could help you. Martin. PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't imagine that. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Fluid layout
Title: Re: [WSG] Fluid layout On 2/24/06 2:18 PM, "Adam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it's not quite there yet. Or try a look at 800 wide... Sorry, no time to peek at it. Just an FYI... -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com
Re: [WSG] CSS and Flash
Good deal Sean, Jesse, et al.On 2/24/06, Sean Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi i'm not a hundred percent sure on this but there's a website which may beof use:http://www.dezwozhere.com/links.htmlscroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to embed flash using CSS.hope this helps_Are you using the latest version of MSN Messenger? Download MSN Messenger7.5 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help** -- Chrs,Mark 617-259-6124 (m)617-249-1539 (f)"to him be praise" ==> Old Ethiopian (Ge'ez) in my email addrAnd remember that "An Incredible God Deserves Incredible Praise"
[WSG] Fluid layout
Hi everyone!Been trying to make this site I'm building fluid after seeing it on a huge monitor in my local Mac store and marvelling at how teeny weeny it looked!The site is at http://www.megustalatelevision.com/uwishMy attempts at getting fluid is this:http://www.megustalatelevision.com/uwish/index1.htmlI have used different ie. larger background images for top, middle and bottom... and a background img for the right side of the body but, as you will see, if you kindly take a look on all your huge monitors, it's not quite there yet. Could you point me in the right direction? Thanks!Adam
Re: [WSG] CSS and Flash
Hi i'm not a hundred percent sure on this but there's a website which may be of use: http://www.dezwozhere.com/links.html scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to embed flash using CSS. hope this helps _ Are you using the latest version of MSN Messenger? Download MSN Messenger 7.5 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Min-Width, IE, Fluid Content and Hair Loss
If you werent worried about users without JavaScript enabled you could use this http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/, alternatively have a fixed size for IE. Daz On 24/02/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings all, > > I'm working on getting a site launched - http://mcdowell.sitesbyjoe.com > - and was hoping to make it completely fluid in all directions. > > One problem, IE (surprise!) > > I have a min-width applied to my wrapper div of 842px, and a width set > to 95%. That way it doesn't squish up (in small resolutions) too much > and force floats downward. > > Needless to day, it doesn't work on IE since it doesn't recognize min-width. > > I've tried various workarounds/ searches on this, setting a width of > 842px in IE only etc... > > These techniques keep it from shrinking, but I lose the fluid expansion > that works so nicely on everything else... > > Anyone have suggestions on this? > > Joseph R. B. Taylor > Sites by Joe, LLC > http://sitesbyjoe.com > (609)335-3076 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Min-Width, IE, Fluid Content and Hair Loss
Thank you Project VII! I could of sworn I had looked at that... Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin Heiden wrote: Joseph, Friday, February 24, 2006, 5:06:39 PM, you wrote: JRBT> I have a min-width applied to my wrapper div of 842px, and a width set JRBT> to 95%. That way it doesn't squish up (in small resolutions) too much JRBT> and force floats downward. You can try the javascript-solution that Al Sparber promotes on his page: http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/css/minwidth/ Download the Dreamweaver Extension or extract the JS from the Demo-Page. You could also fix it by feeding IE a expression in a speacial stylesheet hidden from the good browsers by a conditional comment. regards Martin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
I don't know, ignorance I could claim. Was unaware that this site or list even existed until doing a wee bit on investigating. I'm so glad I happened across you'all (Texas talk) however. Smile I belong to another forum with some great folks who have helped me tremendously in the past year to get past and move into the surreal realm of CSS and Validation etc. It took me quite a bit to absorb the concept! Now it appears that I have been labeled the compliance stickler on that forum. I am often asked "why", my response in "Because I can". My site (personal) serves as my testing grounds. My pet peeve is, stuff not validatinggo figure. I love the FF Web Developers tool bar and the tidy addon, whatever it is called! Great tool! That way I get to see which sites validate and which do not. (giggle, even standards sites show if not errors, warnings). PetPeeve: I wanted a guestbook, found one, installed it, then found out the darned old php code was fraught with invalidations. Not knowing a thing about php, I crossed my fingers, jumped in and fixed it! Took me days and days. I made several mistakes! My question is this, why oh why can't one who knows how to do those things, build them to validate before they release them for public consumption? How darn hard is it to specify the php to write out alt tags for images, or table summaries in tables and so on? Excuse me whilst I growl, grr. So in short, I am glad to be here, where I am not only folk, to whom it matters. Onward and upwards! Now if someone or the WC3 would find a valid alternative for the "Onresize" attribute! I would be a happy camper. BIG SMILE I don't know how to get smiles in an email, forgive me. Sharron - Original Message - From: "Mugur Padurean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Hi Sharon :) What took you so long ... ? :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Min-Width, IE, Fluid Content and Hair Loss
Joseph, Friday, February 24, 2006, 5:06:39 PM, you wrote: JRBT> I have a min-width applied to my wrapper div of 842px, and a width set JRBT> to 95%. That way it doesn't squish up (in small resolutions) too much JRBT> and force floats downward. You can try the javascript-solution that Al Sparber promotes on his page: http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/css/minwidth/ Download the Dreamweaver Extension or extract the JS from the Demo-Page. You could also fix it by feeding IE a expression in a speacial stylesheet hidden from the good browsers by a conditional comment. regards Martin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Min-Width, IE, Fluid Content and Hair Loss
Greetings all, I'm working on getting a site launched - http://mcdowell.sitesbyjoe.com - and was hoping to make it completely fluid in all directions. One problem, IE (surprise!) I have a min-width applied to my wrapper div of 842px, and a width set to 95%. That way it doesn't squish up (in small resolutions) too much and force floats downward. Needless to day, it doesn't work on IE since it doesn't recognize min-width. I've tried various workarounds/ searches on this, setting a width of 842px in IE only etc... These techniques keep it from shrinking, but I lose the fluid expansion that works so nicely on everything else... Anyone have suggestions on this? Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Breadcrumb as Section Heading H1
you're right of course. I should use an OL and put the breadcrumb text as a heading. However I found this method to be the most compliant and easiest to implement, and it is understandable in most browsers. On 23 Feb 2006, at 20:55, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Stephen Stagg wrote: For the benefit of Screen-readers and textmode browsers, I add a LI with the text 'breadcrumb' at the top of the list which is then hidden using CSS. It's not a perfect solution but it works. Breadcrumb: Menu Item 1 Menu Item 2 Menu Item 3 As it's an unordered list, it implies that there is no particular order to the items...you could jumble them up at random and they'd still retain their meaning. This, of course, is not true for home paths / breadcrumb trails. The order is quite specific, so if lists are your thing, ordered lists should really be used. For the same reason, having the first item "breadcrumb" does not imply anything, as it's a sibling of the other list items...which is not the case. -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS and Flash
Pls forgive my ignorance on this subject matter, I am seeking the wisdom from the list regarding CSS and objects, flash in this case. Can I leverage CSS to show common flash content across all pages of a site or am i barking up the wrong tree? Jesse said You can't embed Flash using CSS, your prob right but what about that flash as a css background someone was posting about here a while back?? -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS and Flash
> Pls forgive my ignorance on this subject matter, I am seeking the wisdom > from the list regarding CSS and objects, flash in this case. > Can I leverage CSS to show common flash content across all pages of a > site or am i barking up the wrong tree? You can't embed Flash using CSS, but you may find what you're looking for with JavaScript. If you use something like Bobby van der Sluis' Unobtrusive Flash Objects (http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/), and include a JavaScript file in each page, you can have a single place in your code where the flash content is defined. Plus, using a method like this will also ensure users with JavaScript or Flash can still see alternative content such as an image. Cheers, Jesse Skinner www.thefutureoftheweb.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Should logo not link to the homepage?
> Ian Anderson > Great minds and all that? If you reread the previous bit of my post > you'll see: > > 'So, the logo should say something like "MSNBC home page"' Yes, but you seemed to suggest having that as the ALT, whereas I'd say it's more appropriate to just have "MSNBC" as the ALT and have the "MSNBC home page" as the TITLE on the link. But yeh, in principle we're on the same tracks :) P Patrick H. Lauke Web Editor / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] CSS and Flash
Pls forgive my ignorance on this subject matter, I am seeking the wisdom from the list regarding CSS and objects, flash in this case.Can I leverage CSS to show common flash content across all pages of a site or am i barking up the wrong tree? -- Chrs,Mark 617-259-6124 (m)617-249-1539 (f)"to him be praise" ==> Old Ethiopian (Ge'ez) in my email addrAnd remember that "An Incredible God Deserves Incredible Praise"
Re: [WSG] Should logo not link to the homepage?
It definatly should, relax and think of home ;-) On 23/02/06, John S. Britsios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear co-members, > > I would like to ask your opinion here, if a web site logo should or not > link to the homepage. > By the way, see for example what Jesper Tverskov wrote about this: > http://www.smackthemouse.com/20040719 > > Thanks in advance for your kind responces. > > Kind regards, > > John S. Britsios > http://www.webnauts.net > > --- > Redesign in process: http://www.webnauts.net/redesign/ > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0608-0, 20.02.2006 > Tested on: 23.02.2006 09:32:33 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Page veiwing
On 2/24/06 12:29 AM, "SunUp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > looks just fine to me. And that's good enough for me. Like everyone on this list says - if you made your pages 'right', everyone will be able to use them no mater what they are using. To each his/her own. I feel like everyone on this list is trying to force Sunny to change when she is clearly aware of the alternatives but chooses to keep what she likes. Sunny, have a go at Opera's 'Show window size' preference. Then all you have to do is drag the edge of the window to what ever width you want to check. HTH -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Should logo not link to the homepage?
Patrick Lauke wrote:
How about a dual approach of using ALT that describes the image (MSNBC)
and a title on the link to provide additional advisory information of
where the link is going to ('MSNBC home page'), i.e.
Great minds and all that? If you reread the previous bit of my post
you'll see:
'So, the logo should say something like "MSNBC home page"'
We seem to be in agreement :)
Sorry my post was a bit disordered
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Re: [WSG] AP div problem... please!
Thanks a lot Soeren. That did the trick.
Soeren Mordhorst wrote:
I set in #textbox the positioning from 'absolute' to 'relative', gave
a little 'lesser of px' in the #TJKul and it worked fine.
Maybe you have to fix some bugs in IE5x...
#textbox{
position:relative;
display:block;
left:30px;
top:72px;
height:20px;
width:50px;
background:url(http://www.mouseriders.dk/til_michael/imagesBG/textbox_white.gif);
z-index:1;
}
#TJKul {
margin-top: 72px;
background: #FFF url(kaosjs/ulbg_white.gif)
repeat-x;
float:right;
margin-right:30px;
}
All the best,
Soeren
Kim Kruse schrieb:
I'm trying to get my "text resizer" to work in FF/IE/Opera but for
some reason I don't see the AP div (#textbox) on the page in IE6.
If you go to this page
http://www.mouseriders.dk/til_michael/index_white.php (I'm not done
with the stylesheet for this page yet) and in the selectbox please
choose "Hvid/blå kontrast" and click the submit (skift). You should
now see a white page with the "A a" in the blue header (screen shot
here http://www.mouseriders.dk/til_michael/imagesBG/ss_1.gif) ...at
least in FF/Opera. I just can't figure out why the "#textbox" won't
show up in IE.
Any ideas?
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Re: [WSG] AP div problem... please!
I set in #textbox the positioning from 'absolute' to 'relative', gave a
little 'lesser of px' in the #TJKul and it worked fine.
Maybe you have to fix some bugs in IE5x...
#textbox{
position:relative;
display:block;
left:30px;
top:72px;
height:20px;
width:50px;
background:url(http://www.mouseriders.dk/til_michael/imagesBG/textbox_white.gif);
z-index:1;
}
#TJKul {
margin-top: 72px;
background: #FFF url(kaosjs/ulbg_white.gif)
repeat-x;
float:right;
margin-right:30px;
}
All the best,
Soeren
Kim Kruse schrieb:
I'm trying to get my "text resizer" to work in FF/IE/Opera but for
some reason I don't see the AP div (#textbox) on the page in IE6.
If you go to this page
http://www.mouseriders.dk/til_michael/index_white.php (I'm not done
with the stylesheet for this page yet) and in the selectbox please
choose "Hvid/blå kontrast" and click the submit (skift). You should
now see a white page with the "A a" in the blue header (screen shot
here http://www.mouseriders.dk/til_michael/imagesBG/ss_1.gif) ...at
least in FF/Opera. I just can't figure out why the "#textbox" won't
show up in IE.
Any ideas?
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Re: [WSG] Page veiwing
On 23/02/06, SunUp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >What is it about low quality that keeps you attracted? > > It's not that I'm "attracted" to it, I simply don't really care about it. > I see those huge fancy flat screen monitors on high res, with all > their kiddie-safe rounded corners and pastelly colours. They look like > a Fisher-Price toy. That sounds more like a complaint about the GUI. IMO, WinXP does have a cartoonish look. > At this res I can read everything without squinting or leaning forward > or constantly upping the size in browsers because developers use teeny > tiny text (I have 20/20 vision btw, no glasses, no contacts). Before I needed reading/computer glasses (getting older!) I found it preferable to see more -- more cells in a spreadsheet, more of a page in a word processor, etc. That's why I set my 21" CRT to 1600x1200. I still use that resolution with glasses and find it no harder to use (without leaning forward or quinting) than reading a printed page. But, of course, to each his (her) own. > Incidentally, I also had to be bullied into getting a mobile phone > (last year). Maybe I'm just a Luddite :) I still do without one. I also resisted pagers (electronic dog leashes) when they were in vogue. I don't need -- or want -- to be available every moment of the day. -- T. R. Valentine Use a decent browser: Safari, Firefox, Mozilla, Opera (Avoid IE like the plague it is) N���.�Ȩ�X���+��i�� n�Z�֫v�+��h��y�m�쵩�j�l��.f���.�ץ�w�q(��b��(��,�)උazX����)��
RE: [WSG] Should logo not link to the homepage?
> Ian Anderson
> To consider two extreme examples if the MSNBC logo was linked to the
> home page, alt text of "MSNBC" would be the least helpful,
although that is the exact equivalent of what happens visually for
sighted users, and they then use their acquired knowledge to understand
that it links back to the homepage of the site.
> and alt text
> of "Home" would be the most correct.
but then you've removed the branding/identification from the page.
How about a dual approach of using ALT that describes the image (MSNBC)
and a title on the link to provide additional advisory information of
where the link is going to ('MSNBC home page'), i.e.
P
Patrick H. Lauke
Web Editor / University of Salford
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Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force
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Re: [WSG] Should logo not link to the homepage?
Justin Owens wrote: * the img alt text read 'logo' but the link went to home Your alt attribute should be modified to correctly represent the actual image. IMHO, 'logo' is not descriptive enough to be used as alternative text for a linked image. In my opinion, it is important for linked images to have alt text that explains the function of the link - the alt text should be more or less the same as the link text ought to be if the link was on text instead of an image. The alt should not be a literal description of the image in this case. So, the logo should say something like "MSNBC home page" so that it includes functional branding but clearly conveys the destination of the link. To consider two extreme examples if the MSNBC logo was linked to the home page, alt text of "MSNBC" would be the least helpful, and alt text of "Home" would be the most correct. I think the best course of action is a compromise incorporating both ideas like that above. -- _ zStudio - Web development and accessibility http://zStudio.co.uk Snippetz.net - Online code library File, manage and re-use your code snippets & links http://snippetz.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
