Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image
I would have though a simple CSS width:100%; , height:auto might do it? does it need to be a background and will it conflict with anything at different sizes? ? On Jun 30, 2008, at 05:15, dwain wrote: On 6/29/08, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? there is a way to do it by using svg images, but i'm unclear on the process. i think that the svg files has to be edited for the images to scale to a screen's resolution. but anyway, svg is the wave of the future for web images. cheers, dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.typingthevoid.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image
it seems that it used to, but the browser rendering has changed. i read, not too closely, in the svg specs how to edit the files to make it fit infinite screen resolutions. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have though a simple CSS width:100%; , height:auto might do it? does it need to be a background and will it conflict with anything at different sizes? ? On Jun 30, 2008, at 05:15, dwain wrote: On 6/29/08, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? there is a way to do it by using svg images, but i'm unclear on the process. i think that the svg files has to be edited for the images to scale to a screen's resolution. but anyway, svg is the wave of the future for web images. cheers, dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.typingthevoid.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image
SVG is not really suitable for photos though. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:24 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems that it used to, but the browser rendering has changed. i read, not too closely, in the svg specs how to edit the files to make it fit infinite screen resolutions. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have though a simple CSS width:100%; , height:auto might do it? does it need to be a background and will it conflict with anything at different sizes? ? On Jun 30, 2008, at 05:15, dwain wrote: On 6/29/08, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? there is a way to do it by using svg images, but i'm unclear on the process. i think that the svg files has to be edited for the images to scale to a screen's resolution. but anyway, svg is the wave of the future for web images. cheers, dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.typingthevoid.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image
this is true. On 6/30/08, Matijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SVG is not really suitable for photos though. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:24 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems that it used to, but the browser rendering has changed. i read, not too closely, in the svg specs how to edit the files to make it fit infinite screen resolutions. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have though a simple CSS width:100%; , height:auto might do it? does it need to be a background and will it conflict with anything at different sizes? ? On Jun 30, 2008, at 05:15, dwain wrote: On 6/29/08, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? there is a way to do it by using svg images, but i'm unclear on the process. i think that the svg files has to be edited for the images to scale to a screen's resolution. but anyway, svg is the wave of the future for web images. cheers, dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.typingthevoid.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image
I do it here:
http://www.sydost.no/
Like this, in head
style type=text/css
html {height:100%;}
body {height:100%; margin:0; padding:0;}
#bg {position:fixed; top:0; left:0; width:100%; height:100%;}
.outer_framework {position:relative; z-index:1;}
/style!--[if IE 6]style type=text/css
html {overflow-y:hidden;}
body {overflow-y:auto;}
#bg {position:absolute; z-index:-1;}
.outer_framework {position:static;}
/style![endif]--
And then I include the picture in my html, not the coolest thing but it
works:
div id=bgimg alt= height=100%
src=http://www.sydost.no/images/bg.jpg; width=100% //div
Hope it helps.
Kind regards
Per Allan Johansson
Enonic
dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev følgende den 30.06.08 22.04:
this is true.
On 6/30/08, Matijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SVG is not really suitable for photos though.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:24 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it seems that it used to, but the browser rendering has changed. i
read, not too closely, in the svg specs how to edit the files to make
it fit infinite screen resolutions.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would have though a simple CSS width:100%; , height:auto might do it?
does it need to be a background and will it conflict with anything
at different sizes?
?
On Jun 30, 2008, at 05:15, dwain wrote:
On 6/29/08, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to
the
current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears
this
can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some
JavaScript?
there is a way to do it by using svg images, but i'm unclear on the
process. i think that the svg files has to be edited for the images to
scale to a screen's resolution. but anyway, svg is the wave of the
future
for web images.
cheers,
dwain
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Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Matijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SVG is not really suitable for photos though. Which is mostly true but SVG can contain bitmaps and as the goal is to scale the bitmap to 100% anyway then using SVG as a container format would be appropriate (or at least identical to bitmaps, aside from file size). Unrelated, but here's an example of using SVG vectors for a background image... http://holloway.co.nz/wellypug/svg/svg-test2.html .Matthew Holloway http://docvert.org/ http://holloway.co.nz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Scaling a background image
This looks pretty good, I'll give it a whirl.
Thanks
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image
I do it here:
http://www.sydost.no/
Like this, in head
style type=text/css
html {height:100%;}
body {height:100%; margin:0; padding:0;}
#bg {position:fixed; top:0; left:0; width:100%; height:100%;}
.outer_framework {position:relative; z-index:1;}
/style!--[if IE 6]style type=text/css
html {overflow-y:hidden;}
body {overflow-y:auto;}
#bg {position:absolute; z-index:-1;}
.outer_framework {position:static;}
/style![endif]--
And then I include the picture in my html, not the coolest thing but it
works:
div id=bgimg alt= height=100%
src=http://www.sydost.no/images/bg.jpg; width=100% //div
Hope it helps.
Kind regards
Per Allan Johansson
Enonic
dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev følgende den 30.06.08 22.04:
this is true.
On 6/30/08, Matijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SVG is not really suitable for photos though.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:24 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it seems that it used to, but the browser rendering has changed. i
read, not too closely, in the svg specs how to edit the files to make
it fit infinite screen resolutions.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would have though a simple CSS width:100%; , height:auto might do it?
does it need to be a background and will it conflict with anything
at different sizes?
?
On Jun 30, 2008, at 05:15, dwain wrote:
On 6/29/08, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to
the
current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears
this
can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some
JavaScript?
there is a way to do it by using svg images, but i'm unclear on the
process. i think that the svg files has to be edited for the images to
scale to a screen's resolution. but anyway, svg is the wave of the
future
for web images.
cheers,
dwain
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2008/7/1 Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lisa Herrod wrote: Just wondering if there is a standards compliant way of implementing 'autocomplete' on forms, which I believe is proprietry...? Not tested it, but...could you inject the autocomplete=off via javascript to the form element? Thanks Pat, yeah that's what I thought. I wanted confirmation from smart people like you though :) If all else fails, I'd rather have an invalid attribute (with a good rationale why it was used) that doesn't have adverse effects (as opposed to invalid elements, which have the potential of messing up the DOM more dramatically) any day if it actually provides an improvement to usability. Yeah that's what I reckon too. if all else passes i can live with something like this. But I did want to see if there was anything out there before I went with it. Thanks for that ;) lisa -- Lisa Herrod Web Usability: User Experience Research, Consulting and Training Business: http://www.Scenarioseven.com.au Blog: http://www.Scenariogirl.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Please unsubscribe me -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:25 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: WSG Digest * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * From: Cook, Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:47:05 +1000 Subject: RE: WSG Digest Please unsubscribe me -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 30 June 2008 9:22 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: WSG Digest * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * * From: Lynette Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:20:34 +0800 Subject: Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image Chris Pearce wrote: Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? Is this the sort of thing you mean: http://www.bluelightning.com.au/ The image reduces in size at smaller screen resolutions. Lyn WesternWeb Design Perth Western Australia * From: Matthew Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:56:29 +1200 Subject: Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? Here's a CSS and HTML way of doing it for those browsers that understand position:fixed, http://holloway.co.nz/mefi/fullscreenbackground2/ For those browsers that don't you'd need to emulate it with JavaScript... window.onscroll to move the #background down the page with the scroll position. ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Sensis. Helping you find, buy and sell. www.sensis.com.au - www.yellow.com.au - www.whitepages.com.au - www.citysearch.com.au - www.whereis.com.au - www.tradingpost.com.au Sensis cares for the environment - think before you print. This email and any attachments are intended only for the use of the recipient and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Sensis Pty Ltd disclaims liability for any errors, omissions, viruses, loss and/or damage arising from using, opening or transmitting this email. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, interfere with, disclose, copy or retain this email and you should notify the sender immediately by return email or by contacting Sensis Pty Ltd by telephone on [+61 3 8653 5000] * From: Sandra Vassallo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:12:29 +1000 Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML 4.01 MAP element prevents links from displaying using a screen reader Hi, A good news story... The earlier problem of navigation links (using the html map element) not displaying in Firefox when accessed via a screen reader seems to have been resolved. The report to bugzilla was quickly actioned and is now finished - thanks to open source developers Marco Zehe, Alexander Surkov and Aaron Leventhal who have been working on a patch for the last 8 weeks. Currently, it is in the development releases of 3.1a1pre ... the next major update to Firefox is tentatively due in Q1/2009 and it is likely to be approved for full release as part of version 3.0.1 (all signs at this stage are promising, so fingers crossed) A log of the development activity is at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=431615 Cheers, Sandra. Sandra Vassallo wrote: Hi, I recently come across a problem in Firefox with screen readers (Jaws and Window Eyes) when using the HTML 4.01 MAP element to group links, and thought it would be of interest to others on the list who may be using it as well. It also affects Braillenote's Keyweb. The technique is suggested in WCAG 1.0 and the recent WCAG 2.0 Candidate Recommendation. www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#group-bypass www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-WCAG20-HTML-TECHS-20041119/#linkgroups and www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-HTML-TECHS/H50.html Websites using the map element seem to be affected when a screen reader virtualises the page in Firefox.
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Check out the link at the bottom of this page... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Sheridan Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:30 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Please unsubscribe me Please unsubscribe me -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:25 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: WSG Digest * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * From: Cook, Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:47:05 +1000 Subject: RE: WSG Digest Please unsubscribe me -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 30 June 2008 9:22 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: WSG Digest * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * * From: Lynette Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:20:34 +0800 Subject: Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image Chris Pearce wrote: Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? Is this the sort of thing you mean: http://www.bluelightning.com.au/ The image reduces in size at smaller screen resolutions. Lyn WesternWeb Design Perth Western Australia * From: Matthew Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:56:29 +1200 Subject: Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? Here's a CSS and HTML way of doing it for those browsers that understand position:fixed, http://holloway.co.nz/mefi/fullscreenbackground2/ For those browsers that don't you'd need to emulate it with JavaScript... window.onscroll to move the #background down the page with the scroll position. ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Sensis. Helping you find, buy and sell. www.sensis.com.au - www.yellow.com.au - www.whitepages.com.au - www.citysearch.com.au - www.whereis.com.au - www.tradingpost.com.au Sensis cares for the environment - think before you print. This email and any attachments are intended only for the use of the recipient and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Sensis Pty Ltd disclaims liability for any errors, omissions, viruses, loss and/or damage arising from using, opening or transmitting this email. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, interfere with, disclose, copy or retain this email and you should notify the sender immediately by return email or by contacting Sensis Pty Ltd by telephone on [+61 3 8653 5000] * From: Sandra Vassallo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:12:29 +1000 Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML 4.01 MAP element prevents links from displaying using a screen reader Hi, A good news story... The earlier problem of navigation links (using the html map element) not displaying in Firefox when accessed via a screen reader seems to have been resolved. The report to bugzilla was quickly actioned and is now finished - thanks to open source developers Marco Zehe, Alexander Surkov and Aaron Leventhal who have been working on a patch for the last 8 weeks. Currently, it is in the development releases of 3.1a1pre ... the next major update to Firefox is tentatively due in Q1/2009 and it is likely to be approved for full release as part of version 3.0.1 (all signs at this stage are promising, so fingers crossed) A log of the development activity is at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=431615 Cheers, Sandra. Sandra Vassallo wrote: Hi, I recently come across a problem in Firefox with screen readers (Jaws and Window Eyes) when using the HTML 4.01 MAP element to group links, and thought it would be of interest to others on the list who may be using it as well. It also
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hey gang, to unsubscribe, go to http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm William Stuart Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please unsubscribe me -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:25 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: WSG Digest * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * From: Cook, Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:47:05 +1000 Subject: RE: WSG Digest Please unsubscribe me -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 30 June 2008 9:22 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: WSG Digest * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * * From: Lynette Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:20:34 +0800 Subject: Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image Chris Pearce wrote: Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? Is this the sort of thing you mean: http://www.bluelightning.com.au/ The image reduces in size at smaller screen resolutions. Lyn WesternWeb Design Perth Western Australia * From: Matthew Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:56:29 +1200 Subject: Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? Here's a CSS and HTML way of doing it for those browsers that understand position:fixed, http://holloway.co.nz/mefi/fullscreenbackground2/ For those browsers that don't you'd need to emulate it with JavaScript... window.onscroll to move the #background down the page with the scroll position. ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Sensis. Helping you find, buy and sell. www.sensis.com.au - www.yellow.com.au - www.whitepages.com.au - www.citysearch.com.au - www.whereis.com.au - www.tradingpost.com.au Sensis cares for the environment - think before you print. This email and any attachments are intended only for the use of the recipient and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Sensis Pty Ltd disclaims liability for any errors, omissions, viruses, loss and/or damage arising from using, opening or transmitting this email. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, interfere with, disclose, copy or retain this email and you should notify the sender immediately by return email or by contacting Sensis Pty Ltd by telephone on [+61 3 8653 5000] * From: Sandra Vassallo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:12:29 +1000 Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML 4.01 MAP element prevents links from displaying using a screen reader Hi, A good news story... The earlier problem of navigation links (using the html map element) not displaying in Firefox when accessed via a screen reader seems to have been resolved. The report to bugzilla was quickly actioned and is now finished - thanks to open source developers Marco Zehe, Alexander Surkov and Aaron Leventhal who have been working on a patch for the last 8 weeks. Currently, it is in the development releases of 3.1a1pre ... the next major update to Firefox is tentatively due in Q1/2009 and it is likely to be approved for full release as part of version 3.0.1 (all signs at this stage are promising, so fingers crossed) A log of the development activity is at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=431615 Cheers, Sandra. Sandra Vassallo wrote: Hi, I recently come across a problem in Firefox with screen readers (Jaws and Window Eyes) when using the HTML 4.01 MAP element to group links, and thought it would be of interest to others on the list who may be using it as well. It also affects Braillenote's Keyweb. The technique is suggested in WCAG 1.0 and the recent WCAG 2.0
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thats right, I thought it was somewhere, thanks Rick Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out the link at the bottom of this page... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Sheridan Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:30 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Please unsubscribe me Please unsubscribe me -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:25 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: WSG Digest * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * From: Cook, Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:47:05 +1000 Subject: RE: WSG Digest Please unsubscribe me -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 30 June 2008 9:22 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: WSG Digest * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * * From: Lynette Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:20:34 +0800 Subject: Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image Chris Pearce wrote: Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? Is this the sort of thing you mean: http://www.bluelightning.com.au/ The image reduces in size at smaller screen resolutions. Lyn WesternWeb Design Perth Western Australia * From: Matthew Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:56:29 +1200 Subject: Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? Here's a CSS and HTML way of doing it for those browsers that understand position:fixed, http://holloway.co.nz/mefi/fullscreenbackground2/ For those browsers that don't you'd need to emulate it with JavaScript... window.onscroll to move the #background down the page with the scroll position. ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Sensis. Helping you find, buy and sell. www.sensis.com.au - www.yellow.com.au - www.whitepages.com.au - www.citysearch.com.au - www.whereis.com.au - www.tradingpost.com.au Sensis cares for the environment - think before you print. This email and any attachments are intended only for the use of the recipient and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Sensis Pty Ltd disclaims liability for any errors, omissions, viruses, loss and/or damage arising from using, opening or transmitting this email. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, interfere with, disclose, copy or retain this email and you should notify the sender immediately by return email or by contacting Sensis Pty Ltd by telephone on [+61 3 8653 5000] * From: Sandra Vassallo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:12:29 +1000 Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML 4.01 MAP element prevents links from displaying using a screen reader Hi, A good news story... The earlier problem of navigation links (using the html map element) not displaying in Firefox when accessed via a screen reader seems to have been resolved. The report to bugzilla was quickly actioned and is now finished - thanks to open source developers Marco Zehe, Alexander Surkov and Aaron Leventhal who have been working on a patch for the last 8 weeks. Currently, it is in the development releases of 3.1a1pre ... the next major update to Firefox is tentatively due in Q1/2009 and it is likely to be approved for full release as part of version 3.0.1 (all signs at this stage are promising, so fingers crossed) A log of the development activity is at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=431615 Cheers, Sandra.
[WSG] Odd space forming under navigational bar
Hey all im trying to make what i though was a rather simple site. All is going well until now, i have this annoying gap under the nav bar and i cant seem to see what causing it. Im hopeing its something and a fresh pair of eyes will pick it up quickly. anyway heres the link http://serenal.net.au/ Thanks - Bill *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Many thanks Polly Templeton National Museum of Australia National Museum of Australia Winner - Best Major Tourist Attraction 2006 and 2005 Australian Tourism Awards *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Odd space forming under navigational bar
bill kroon provided the following information on 1/07/2008 2:27 PM: Hey all im trying to make what i though was a rather simple site. All is going well until now, i have this annoying gap under the nav bar and i cant seem to see what causing it. Im hopeing its something and a fresh pair of eyes will pick it up quickly. anyway heres the link http://serenal.net.au/ Hi Bill, Seems to be quite a few issues there. (See IE v FF) Looks more like web design/ Basic html issues rather than a web standards issue. Maybe your question would be best answered at a web design list. Try - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/adobe-dreamweaver/?v=1t=directorych=webpub=groupssec=dirslk=1 Andrew. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Polly Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks Polly Templeton National Museum of Australia I don't know about you all but I'm maintaining a spreadsheet called People not to hire based on their ability to use the WSG list. .Matthew Holloway http://holloway.co.nz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Odd space forming under navigational bar
Tables and inline styles. Interesting. Look at all that onmouseout/rollover - there's an image border or two specified. Could be those. divGood luck/div //styles for the above element are in an external file :) On 01/07/2008, at 12:27 PM, bill kroon wrote: Hey all im trying to make what i though was a rather simple site. All is going well until now, i have this annoying gap under the nav bar and i cant seem to see what causing it. Im hopeing its something and a fresh pair of eyes will pick it up quickly. anyway heres the link http://serenal.net.au/ Thanks - Bill *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Ha ha and yes!! On 1/7/08 2:59 PM, Matthew Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Polly Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks Polly Templeton National Museum of Australia I don't know about you all but I'm maintaining a spreadsheet called People not to hire based on their ability to use the WSG list. .Matthew Holloway http://holloway.co.nz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
