Re: [WSG] object element in front of all content

[Joshua Street]

Why not just use a transitional doctype?

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Robin Gorry  wrote:

>  Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am putting together a basic cross browser wysiwyg using the object
> element instead of an iframe to display the html, as the object element is
> standards compliant.
>
> The object is used to display another html page like so:
>
>
>
>  data="test_page/test.htm" type="text/html" >
>
>   
>
>
>
> However my problem is with IE, when I open my floating div for a dialog box
> it renders behind the object and any amount of z-index toggling or adding <
> *param* name="wmode" value="*opaque*">; (which works or flash) doesn't
> work.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have a solution to this or do I just have to work around it?
> Like so:
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  data="test_page/bluemoo.htm" type="text/html" >
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
> Although this would be a big branch for ie.
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> Robin.
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[WSG] object element in front of all content

[Robin Gorry]

Hi All,

 

I am putting together a basic cross browser wysiwyg using the object element 
instead of an iframe to display the html, as the object element is standards 
compliant.

The object is used to display another html page like so:

 



  

 

However my problem is with IE, when I open my floating div for a dialog box it 
renders behind the object and any amount of z-index toggling or adding ; (which works or flash) doesn't work.

 

Does anyone have a solution to this or do I just have to work around it? Like 
so:

 

 

 







 

Although this would be a big branch for ie.

 

Thank you

 

Robin.



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RE: RE: [WSG] Accessibility testing [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Chris Vickery]

That is a very cool tool. Nice job.

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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On 
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Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:25 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing

You can try the Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator
service.  It is a free service, no cost to create an account.

http://faetest.dres.uiuc.edu

This is the Candidate release 1, that hopefully be our production
version available later this week.

Please let me know what you think of it.

Jon


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Henrik Madsen
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm wrapping up a Government agency website.
> They have reams of design and usability standards. Some pretty pointless;
> others very valid - but no problem.
> Re. accessibility, they use ACTF aDesigner.
> http://www.eclipse.org/actf/downloads/tools/aDesigner/index.php
> And "our scores against WCAG v1.0 Level A" could apparently be improved.
> They have provided scores for star rating, compliance, navigability and
> listenability.
> Now, here's the thing. This software is only for PC. I'm Mac. Not very
> accessible eh? :)
> What similar software / online systems do people use and get reliable
> results (if reliable results are indeed attainable)?
> TIA.
> Henrik
>
>
> Henrik Madsen
> Generator
> hen...@igenerator.com.au
> www.igenerator.com.au
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RE: RE: [WSG] Accessibility testing [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Chris Vickery]

That is a very cool tool. Nice job.

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Behalf Of Jon Gunderson
Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing

You can try the Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator
service.  It is a free service, no cost to create an account.

http://faetest.dres.uiuc.edu

This is the Candidate release 1, that hopefully be our production
version available later this week.

Please let me know what you think of it.

Jon


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Henrik Madsen
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm wrapping up a Government agency website.
> They have reams of design and usability standards. Some pretty pointless;
> others very valid - but no problem.
> Re. accessibility, they use ACTF aDesigner.
> http://www.eclipse.org/actf/downloads/tools/aDesigner/index.php
> And "our scores against WCAG v1.0 Level A" could apparently be improved.
> They have provided scores for star rating, compliance, navigability and
> listenability.
> Now, here's the thing. This software is only for PC. I'm Mac. Not very
> accessible eh? :)
> What similar software / online systems do people use and get reliable
> results (if reliable results are indeed attainable)?
> TIA.
> Henrik
>
>
> Henrik Madsen
> Generator
> hen...@igenerator.com.au
> www.igenerator.com.au
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RE: RE: [WSG] Accessibility testing [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Chris Vickery]

That is a very cool tool. Nice job.

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Behalf Of Jon Gunderson
Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:25 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing

You can try the Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator
service.  It is a free service, no cost to create an account.

http://faetest.dres.uiuc.edu

This is the Candidate release 1, that hopefully be our production
version available later this week.

Please let me know what you think of it.

Jon


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Henrik Madsen
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm wrapping up a Government agency website.
> They have reams of design and usability standards. Some pretty pointless;
> others very valid - but no problem.
> Re. accessibility, they use ACTF aDesigner.
> http://www.eclipse.org/actf/downloads/tools/aDesigner/index.php
> And "our scores against WCAG v1.0 Level A" could apparently be improved.
> They have provided scores for star rating, compliance, navigability and
> listenability.
> Now, here's the thing. This software is only for PC. I'm Mac. Not very
> accessible eh? :)
> What similar software / online systems do people use and get reliable
> results (if reliable results are indeed attainable)?
> TIA.
> Henrik
>
>
> Henrik Madsen
> Generator
> hen...@igenerator.com.au
> www.igenerator.com.au
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RE: RE: [WSG] Accessibility testing [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Chris Vickery]

That is a very cool tool. Nice job.

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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On 
Behalf Of Jon Gunderson
Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:25 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing

You can try the Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator
service.  It is a free service, no cost to create an account.

http://faetest.dres.uiuc.edu

This is the Candidate release 1, that hopefully be our production
version available later this week.

Please let me know what you think of it.

Jon


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Henrik Madsen
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm wrapping up a Government agency website.
> They have reams of design and usability standards. Some pretty pointless;
> others very valid - but no problem.
> Re. accessibility, they use ACTF aDesigner.
> http://www.eclipse.org/actf/downloads/tools/aDesigner/index.php
> And "our scores against WCAG v1.0 Level A" could apparently be improved.
> They have provided scores for star rating, compliance, navigability and
> listenability.
> Now, here's the thing. This software is only for PC. I'm Mac. Not very
> accessible eh? :)
> What similar software / online systems do people use and get reliable
> results (if reliable results are indeed attainable)?
> TIA.
> Henrik
>
>
> Henrik Madsen
> Generator
> hen...@igenerator.com.au
> www.igenerator.com.au
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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Christian Snodgrass]

Andrew Maben wrote:

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.




+1

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Christian Snodgrass]

Andrew Maben wrote:

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.




+1

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Same, example A is the way to go.

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Andrew Maben]

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.



+1

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Christian Snodgrass]

Andrew Maben wrote:

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.




+1

Andrew

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Same, example A is the way to go.

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Andrew Maben]

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.



+1

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Christian Snodgrass]

Andrew Maben wrote:

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.




+1

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Same, example A is the way to go.

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Andrew Maben]

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.



+1

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Andrew Maben]

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.



+1

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Christian Snodgrass]

Andrew Maben wrote:

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.




+1

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RE: RE: [WSG] Accessibility testing [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Chris Vickery]

That is a very cool tool. Nice job.

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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On 
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Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:25 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing

You can try the Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator
service.  It is a free service, no cost to create an account.

http://faetest.dres.uiuc.edu

This is the Candidate release 1, that hopefully be our production
version available later this week.

Please let me know what you think of it.

Jon


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Henrik Madsen
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm wrapping up a Government agency website.
> They have reams of design and usability standards. Some pretty pointless;
> others very valid - but no problem.
> Re. accessibility, they use ACTF aDesigner.
> http://www.eclipse.org/actf/downloads/tools/aDesigner/index.php
> And "our scores against WCAG v1.0 Level A" could apparently be improved.
> They have provided scores for star rating, compliance, navigability and
> listenability.
> Now, here's the thing. This software is only for PC. I'm Mac. Not very
> accessible eh? :)
> What similar software / online systems do people use and get reliable
> results (if reliable results are indeed attainable)?
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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Andrew Maben]

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.



+1

Andrew

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Chris Vickery wrote:


What's the best way to place a link in a document?
Is it more accessible to have your link in a sentence, as the URL, or as the 
word 'link'?


Use Example A; you can make as visible as you like with CSS.


ExampleA makes the information more readable but the link less visible
ExampleB the link is visible and page a bit neater but target URL hidden
ExampleC is great if you want to print

ExampleA ... as referred to in the http://www.whatever.gov.au/constitution";>Australian Constitution.

ExampleB ... as referred to in the Australian Constitution http://www.whatever.gov.au/constitution";>(link) .

ExampleC... as referred to in the Australian Constitution http://www.whatever.gov.au/constitution";>( 
www.whatever.gov.au/constitution).

ExampleC is the most thorough but makes it very difficult to read. Interested 
in people's opinions.


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Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing

[Dani Iswara]

On Firefox (fx) with web developer extension, add ATRC web
accessibility checker (testing; sometimes temporary down) against WCAG
2.0, WCAG 1.0, BITV, Stanca Act, Section 508.

Open the tools menu of its extension:
Edit tools
Add
choose (tool type) URL
add: http://checker.atrc.utoronto.ca/servlet/Checkacc?submit1=Check+It&file=
give some description
OK

I guess colour contras analyser extension (luminosity contrast ratio
[WCAG 2.0] and AERT colour contrast algorithm) is useful
And try FireVox extension for the speech reader on fx.

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[WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Chris Vickery]

What's the best way to place a link in a document? 
Is it more accessible to have your link in a sentence, as the URL, or as the 
word 'link'?

ExampleA makes the information more readable but the link less visible
ExampleB the link is visible and page a bit neater but target URL hidden
ExampleC is great if you want to print

ExampleA ... as referred to in the http://www.whatever.gov.au/constitution";>Australian Constitution.

ExampleB ... as referred to in the Australian Constitution http://www.whatever.gov.au/constitution";>(link) .

ExampleC... as referred to in the Australian Constitution http://www.whatever.gov.au/constitution";>( 
www.whatever.gov.au/constitution).

ExampleC is the most thorough but makes it very difficult to read. Interested 
in people's opinions.

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Re: [WSG] a Div tag won't pick up the height of a floated image?

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Brett Patterson wrote:

Will a div tag pick up the height of an image that is floated left?


Only if the div is styled to "contain floats"...



Lots of options linked in on that page.

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Re: [WSG] a Div tag won't pick up the height of a floated image?

[Prisca schmarsow]

Brett,

not sure if I understood you correctly but this seems easily solved byt
clearing the float with your navigation bar. If I read this right - you are
talking about 2 different lists? One to be positioned next to the image, the
other (navigation bar) to sit below image and list?

in that case:

   1. image floated left
   2. your  (following the image in the HTML) will be positioned right,
   next to the image
   3. the navigation bar's  then needs to be given 'clear: left' in the
   CSS in order to sit below both the image and first list

Hope this helps - and sorry if I misunderstood ;)

Prisca
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Brett Patterson <
inspiron.patters...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Will a div tag pick up the height of an image that is floated left? I have
> an image that is floated to the left and an unordered list that I am trying
> to get to move to the right side of an image, in a horizontal layout...the
> unordered list (navigation bar) is also in a horizontal line position. I
> need the navigation to align to the bottom of the image...the image's height
> is 100px, and the width is 200px...how would I accomplish this?
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[WSG] a Div tag won't pick up the height of a floated image?

[Brett Patterson]

Will a div tag pick up the height of an image that is floated left? I have
an image that is floated to the left and an unordered list that I am trying
to get to move to the right side of an image, in a horizontal layout...the
unordered list (navigation bar) is also in a horizontal line position. I
need the navigation to align to the bottom of the image...the image's height
is 100px, and the width is 200px...how would I accomplish this?

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Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing

[Jon Gunderson]

You can try the Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator
service.  It is a free service, no cost to create an account.

http://faetest.dres.uiuc.edu

This is the Candidate release 1, that hopefully be our production
version available later this week.

Please let me know what you think of it.

Jon


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Henrik Madsen
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm wrapping up a Government agency website.
> They have reams of design and usability standards. Some pretty pointless;
> others very valid - but no problem.
> Re. accessibility, they use ACTF aDesigner.
> http://www.eclipse.org/actf/downloads/tools/aDesigner/index.php
> And "our scores against WCAG v1.0 Level A" could apparently be improved.
> They have provided scores for star rating, compliance, navigability and
> listenability.
> Now, here's the thing. This software is only for PC. I'm Mac. Not very
> accessible eh? :)
> What similar software / online systems do people use and get reliable
> results (if reliable results are indeed attainable)?
> TIA.
> Henrik
>
>
> Henrik Madsen
> Generator
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