Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

2011-04-19 Thread Carl Heaton
Stevio,

Agreed with the other answer but the main reason is for people to see what
the page is about first. Google ranks pages not websites so ABC Engineering
is the last thing big G or the user is thinking about, they want to know
that clicking on this search result will get them the steel fabrication
information they are looking for. Who made it and where you are come later,
so put the title of the page first.

On 20 April 2011 02:30, Stevio  wrote:

> When it comes to search engine optimisation, are you better to list the
> site
> name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other
> way round?
>
> e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding
> or
> Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd
>
> Are you likely to do better in search engines with the keywords first in
> the
> title tag?
>
> Thanks,
> Stephen
>
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Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

2011-04-19 Thread Arka . Bhattacharya
Put in a descriptive title reflecting the content, then the company name.

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From:   Mick Doherty 
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Date:   20/04/2011 09:12 AM
Subject:Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?
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Put the Title first followed by keywords if space permits, use fewer than
70 characters including spaces

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:52 AM, David Dorward  wrote:

  On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:30, Stevio wrote:

  > When it comes to search engine optimisation,

  Stop. Build sites for people, not robots. Search engines are optimising
  to find the best sites for people, aim for the same target as they are.

  > are you better to list the site
  > name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the
  other
  > way round?

  Specific title first. If the visitor has multiple pages from your site
  open in tabs, then they will be indistinguishable with the generic bit
  first.

  > e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding
  > or
  > Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd

  And put titles in the title element, not a list of keywords.

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Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

2011-04-19 Thread Mick Doherty
Put the Title first followed by keywords if space permits, use fewer than 70
characters including spaces

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:52 AM, David Dorward  wrote:

>
> On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:30, Stevio wrote:
>
> > When it comes to search engine optimisation,
>
> Stop. Build sites for people, not robots. Search engines are optimising to
> find the best sites for people, aim for the same target as they are.
>
> > are you better to list the site
> > name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the
> other
> > way round?
>
> Specific title first. If the visitor has multiple pages from your site open
> in tabs, then they will be indistinguishable with the generic bit first.
>
> > e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding
> > or
> > Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd
>
> And put titles in the title element, not a list of keywords.
>
> --
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> http://dorward.me.uk
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RE: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

2011-04-19 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> > When it comes to search engine optimisation,
> 
> Stop. Build sites for people, not robots. Search engines are optimising
> to find the best sites for people, aim for the same target as they are.

+1

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Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

2011-04-19 Thread David Dorward
 
On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:30, Stevio wrote:

> When it comes to search engine optimisation,

Stop. Build sites for people, not robots. Search engines are optimising to find 
the best sites for people, aim for the same target as they are.

> are you better to list the site
> name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other
> way round?

Specific title first. If the visitor has multiple pages from your site open in 
tabs, then they will be indistinguishable with the generic bit first. 

> e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding
> or
> Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd

And put titles in the title element, not a list of keywords.

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http://dorward.me.uk



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2011-04-19 Thread Peter Larsen
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RE: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

2011-04-19 Thread Dan Freeman
Yes, search engines will put more strength on the first few words in your
title tags.

So I'd recommend:
Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd

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Subject: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

When it comes to search engine optimisation, are you better to list the
site
name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other
way round?

e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding
or
Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd

Are you likely to do better in search engines with the keywords first in
the
title tag?

Thanks,
Stephen



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Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

2011-04-19 Thread Alex Stanhope
Hi Stephen,

I'd probably suggest going for the keywords first - in the normal run of 
things, you've only got 60 characters to play with (including spaces) for the 
page title, and needless to say, your choice of words for the home page in 
particular will be crucial in the SEO stakes.

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On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:30, Stevio wrote:

> When it comes to search engine optimisation, are you better to list the site
> name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other
> way round?
> 
> e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding
> or
> Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd
> 
> Are you likely to do better in search engines with the keywords first in the
> title tag?
> 
> Thanks,
> Stephen
> 
> 
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[WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

2011-04-19 Thread Stevio

When it comes to search engine optimisation, are you better to list the site
name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other
way round?

e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding
or
Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd

Are you likely to do better in search engines with the keywords first in the
title tag?

Thanks,
Stephen



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