Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Ben Ward
I would go for the first one, since in this I think the br / is given semantic value as a separator (even though, technically the element has zero semantic value). The first set of markup would by default display a nice, multi-line formatted address in all browsers and could be formatted into a

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Ben Ward
Lea - I think the problematic part of the address / element as described in Geoff's link is the part reading authorship for the current document. Yes, wrapping a street address is correct. However, it specifies that the address must be related directly to the document (e.g. the author's or owner

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-23 Thread Ben Ward
Nothing 'wrong' with that I don't think. I think that the street address should probably only be contained within a single dd, though (since it is a single entity). Lines could be broken with br / as appropraite. I think it would then be appropraite to wrap the inner text of each dd with an

Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-23 Thread Ben Ward
graphic etc. Ben On 5/23/05, Ben Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing 'wrong' with that I don't think. I think that the street address should probably only be contained within a single dd, though (since it is a single entity). Lines could be broken with br / as appropraite. I think it would

Re: [WSG] Anyone see this?

2005-05-26 Thread Ben Ward
Yes, it's an Internet Explorer wrapper. Another variation on the Maxthon/Avant theme. On 5/26/05, Thomas Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curious about what The Pros ;-) thought of this. Anyone got any insight/info/anecdotes/opinions? Is it a new wrapper on IE? Is it compliant?

Re: [WSG] Definition lists for comments in blogs

2005-05-29 Thread Ben Ward
Ahh, but the problem with using blockquote there is that you're trying to differentiate between content from the site owner and content from contributors. However, both those people are 'authors' on the blog, the blog article and blog comments are both first-hand content. blockquote marks up

Re: [WSG] Photo gallery standards?

2005-05-29 Thread Ben Ward
I think the problem you have there is that you're breaking the pictures down in too many different ways on a single page. You might find it more managable if you allow users to choose the presentation: For example, you can separate browsing by: * Photographer * Major catagory * Country (maybe,

Re: [WSG] a elements and what they can contain

2005-05-29 Thread Ben Ward
It is very much a legacy thing these days, since it is being solved for XHTML 2.0, insofaras you can attach the href= attribute to pretty much any element you like, regardless of block|inline condition. A navigation menu item could be 'li href=homepageHomepage/li' without the extra a / tag.

Re: [WSG] Definition lists for comments in blogs

2005-05-30 Thread Ben Ward
What would be wrong with doing something like this? h3Comment Title/h3 p Posted by foobar on foobar /p div p Comment text /p /div Nothing 'wrong', as such. The div surrounding the 'comment text' paragraph is superfluous and could be dropped, but semantically it's pretty sound. The

Re: [WSG] Style PRE with word wrap?

2005-05-31 Thread Ben Ward
Prabhath - code is an inline element, so while is should probably be included somewhere in marking up code, you need something else on the outside of it to create the block. pre is semantically pretty sound for this, since code is pre-formatted and some languages are white-space sensitive, for

Re: [WSG] Regarding foreign languages

2005-06-02 Thread Ben Ward
The language in your html element should be the language of the page. If you have a section of the page (be that a parapraph, form, anything) which uses a different language then you can add a lang and xml:lang attribute to that as well. HTML is generally rather good at doing multi-lingual

Re: [WSG] Another Browser Checking Question

2005-06-22 Thread Ben Ward
If you're testing in Firefox 1.04 and Internet Explorer then there's no need (unless you're doing ActiveX, in which case Netscape 8 has some custom restrictions that you'd want to check against). Just remember that it will take time for Netscape to stay up to date with Firefox: When Fx1.1 arrives

Re: [WSG] REL REV

2005-07-13 Thread Ben Ward
Microformats.org have a nice little item in their FAQ about rel rev and some very useful 'plain english' expansions of common rel and rev relationships. It cetainly cleared a few things up for me! Ben On 7/13/05, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Kennon wrote: After pouring

Re: [WSG] using scalable vector graphics

2005-07-18 Thread Ben Ward
Use the object tag, just like we do with Flash. The SVG mimetype (type atrribute) is image/svg+xml so you'd have something like: object type=image/svg+xml data=image.svg !-- fallback content -- /object You can add width and heigh into that if you need to (though that rather defeats the purpose

Re: [WSG] using scalable vector graphics

2005-07-19 Thread Ben Ward
PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Ward wrote: Use the object tag, just like we do with Flash. The SVG mimetype (type atrribute) is image/svg+xml so you'd have something like: object type=image/svg+xml data=image.svg !-- fallback content -- /object would the fall back content maybe be a jpg, gif

Re: [WSG] Firefox MAC OSX checkbox keyboard tabbing problem

2005-07-28 Thread Ben Ward
Mac OSX has a system preference for 'Enable full keyboard access' which in Safari at least is responsible for controlling whether you can access form controls with the keyboard. Switching it on allows you to do it. I've left my Mac at home today, so haven't been able to check, but my guess would

Re: [WSG] Styling Form Elements

2005-08-03 Thread Ben Ward
At the present time, Safari has minimal support for styled form controls. Safari 2 on Tiger seems to support some colouring and sizing, but little else. It was announced earlier in the week, however, that the Safari team are working on a rewrite on their forms code with a view to making them

Re: [WSG] self-counting list items

2005-08-09 Thread Ben Ward
Yes, it's already implemented in the development versions of Firefox. If you download Deer Park Alpha 2 (for TESTING!), you should be able to play with all the CSS improvements. http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2005/07/12/deer-park-alpha-2-released/ Ben http://ben-ward.co.uk

Re: [WSG] display: inline-block: valid or not? W3C validator says not.

2005-08-15 Thread Ben Ward
CSS 2 - W3C recommendation CSS 2.1 - Working draft Until CSS 2.1 becomes a recommendation, which shouldn't be too long (deadline for comments was July), the W3C validator will use what ever the current recommendation is. Just to be a touch pedantic, CSS2.1 only needs to become a 'candidate

Re: [WSG] accessibility - opening new windows philosophy

2005-08-15 Thread Ben Ward
On the whole, I'm very much in the 'user decide' camp. However, there is some argument for opening PDFs and other 'not-normally-browser-native' media types in new windows (citing the confusing ways in which plug ins behave). Personally, I like everything to download and be opened by a native

Re: [WSG] vCard and Webforms

2005-08-29 Thread Ben Ward
I'm not convinced that it can be done exactly as you describe. Browsers - Mozilla for sure - have restrictions on what you can do with external files - especially drag+drop. For example, the reason you can't drag-and-drop a file onto a 'file' form control in Firefox is because this would make it

Re: [WSG] Opera 8.5 released, now no registration fee ad-free permanently

2005-09-21 Thread Ben Ward
I have generally tested in Opera 7+, but I do find that although its standards support is generally outstanding, it pulls off some genuinely odd quirks that can really mess you about. One of the problems with targetting it came from the 'but people might not pay to upgrade to version 7/8'

Re: [WSG] Standards and .NET

2005-11-08 Thread Ben Ward
A few tips based on my experience of working with ASP.NET 1.1: * First up, consider sticking to an HTML 4 DOCTYPE. It's really not as big a deal as some advocates would have you think ;-) - Critically, if you try and force it to use XHTML and someone accidentally clicks 'Design View' your code is

Re: [WSG] Google and HTML5

2006-01-28 Thread Ben Ward
On 1/26/06, Miika Mäkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian, that was my point... small atleast *sounds* presentational (thought it could indicate text that is less important) and that was why I wasn't happy to see it's included in HTML5...

Re: [WSG] Tag clouds spit /

2006-03-14 Thread Ben Ward
On 3/14/06, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've often wondered why these so-called tag clouds don't use big and small tags (maybe they do ?) they are inline tags. they convey meaning : 2 bigs is more important than 1 big etc. The problem there is that big and small tags _don't_ mean