RE: [WSG] Javascript image rotator

[ByteDreams]

Oops, seems I sent the msg too soon, and someone already recommended the
same site.
Another thought, instead of searching image rotator, have you searched for
"slideshows"?

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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:45 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Javascript image rotator

Hi all,

I thought this would be an easy one to Google, but yet I find myself
here again asking your professional opinions :)

Trying to find a script for random image rotation on a website.
Meaning the images would rotate every 5 seconds or so automatically,
without the need for a refresh. The only requirements would be:

- A fade effect between the rotating images.
- A fall back so users without javascript will still get a single image.

Any links would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Paul


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RE: [WSG] Javascript image rotator

[ByteDreams]

On this jQuery examples page is a something similar to what you want, using
the jQuery library and unordered list with links.  I guess if you enclose
the script within a condition like if javascript=true that would take care
of folks that disable javascript.  I'm not a javascript programmer, however,
but you might be able to figure something out.

http://medienfreunde.com/lab/innerfade/

ByteDreams

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Collins
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:45 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Javascript image rotator

Hi all,

I thought this would be an easy one to Google, but yet I find myself
here again asking your professional opinions :)

Trying to find a script for random image rotation on a website.
Meaning the images would rotate every 5 seconds or so automatically,
without the need for a refresh. The only requirements would be:

- A fade effect between the rotating images.
- A fall back so users without javascript will still get a single image.

Any links would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Paul


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RE: [WSG] BarCamp Perth now FREE

[ByteDreams]

Sounds great!
I've always wanted to visit Australia.  Well.. maybe one day...

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Subject: RE: [WSG] BarCamp Perth now FREE

I will be there and finally something to go to in perth...



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/06/2007 9:13:12 pm >>>
Hi Gary
I wish I could be there but I'm in QLD for a conference :(
Cheers,
Gian

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Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2007 1:08 AM
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Subject: [WSG] BarCamp Perth now FREE

Well Finally Perth gets to hold a BarCamp.

Thing is it's only 16 Days away on the 30th June from 9-5, Central
TAFE, 
140 Royal St, East Perth

So if you are in Perth, Western Australia.  Come along. Its all about 
sharing.

And its FREE.   Register ASAP, and get your  t-shirt details to the 
organiser ([EMAIL PROTECTED] )

and you get a FREE t-shirt on the day.

So Signup here - http://www.webindustry.asn.au/projects/barcamp-perth 

What's a BarCamp. Well those details are on the wiki 


-- 
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RE: [WSG] Firefox & Wmode

[ByteDreams]

Have you checked the adobe site for info?

 

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Behalf Of John Gribben
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:28 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Firefox & Wmode

 

Hello,

 

Does anyone have any experience dealing with the bug in Firefox that
disables mouseover events in Flash when the animation file is placed in an
absolutely positioned element and the Wmode parameter of the animation is
set to "transparent" or "opaque"?  I've built a page where an animation is
positioned beneath some other elements, and a button is not clickable in
Firefox.

 

Thanks,

John


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RE: [WSG] stand alone blog software

[ByteDreams]

http://www.drupal.org

Can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:41 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] stand alone blog software

Calling all blog wizards!

I need a stand alone blogging software that I can insert into a client's
website so they keep their branding and can update their own blogs.  I've
looked around to no avail.  Any suggestions for where to look, how to look,
or anything you use that fits the bill?

Requirements are images, postings, replies to the original posting plus
ability to respond to individual posts.  The site is a UK charitable
organization that needs the posts to be monitored,anonymous, and secure.

The real trick here is being able to pull this off without fancy programming
skills.  I am willing to host wherever is necessary instead of hosting on my
regular servers.

TIA,
Lisa  

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RE: [WSG] Simple to use page layout 'tool' ?

[ByteDreams]

OneNote 2007 is pretty cool.  It's sort of fits in with the legal pad
suggestion (smile), except it's electronic, and is closer to a spiral
notebook than a legal pad.  Comes with a few ruled templates as well, and
you can use a stylus!  

ByteDreams

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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:15 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Simple to use page layout 'tool' ?

Apologies if this is slightly off topic, but I'm happy to re-post elsewhere.

A client wants to be able to create some draft page layouts that they 
want achieved. Basically, they want a simple piece of software that they 
can use to drag & drop things like buttons, lists, input fields etc onto 
a page in order to create an initial draft requirement. No functionality 
is needed - just the ability to create a draft layout and annotate 
things. For example there might be an arrow pointing to a button with a 
note that says 'the user clicks this to display a list of products'

They can then submit it to us as a starting point.

I hesitate to suggest anything like Dreamweaver. Does anyone know of 
anything fairly lightweight and foolproof?

Thanks,

Nick


-- 
Nick Roper
partner
logical elements



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RE: [WSG] Site Check/Launch: Edentiti.com

[ByteDreams]

 
I got the same delay already mentioned on the over state of the graphic
buttons and I'm on cable (IE/WinXP - SP2/1024x768).  I haven't looked at the
code, am more of hobbyist/student/lurker on this list. I guess my comments
are from the pov of the visitor. Hope they help.  An expectation -- when I
clicked on About, I expected to see info About the organization, as I had
already read about the service on the intro page.  I learned nothing new
about the organization on that particular page, though there were 2 more
pages linked there about staff and partners -- perhaps that's enough though.
I wonder, since the text on that About page summarizes what is on the intro
page if it would work better as the intro page, It would also possibly fit
and the visitor would not have to scroll to read the rest.  But just a
thought...

Eileen Russell
http://www.bytedreams.com

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On Behalf Of Lachlan Hunt
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:32 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Site Check/Launch: Edentiti.com

Hi Everyone,
   A new site I recently developed the front-end for over the past few
months, called Edentiti [1], has just officially launched and I wanted to
get some feedback about the usability, accessibility and over functionality
in whatever browsers you can get your hands on.  I've tested in various
Windows and Mac browsers during development, but as is always the case, bugs
tend to sneak in wherever they can and something may have been missed.

(I know there are bugs in IE7, but I'd rather wait till MS actually release
something that isn't a joke like both betas 1 and 2 were before I bother
testing/fixing with it - the one to be released after Mix '06 looks slightly
more promising)

For all you DOM Scripting fans, if you go to step 2 of the Create an
Edentiti section, there's a funky form validation script you might want to
check out.
http://edentiti.com/create/ (click next, to get to step 2)

[1] http://edentiti.com/

PS. I know the markup is currently XHTML and I'm aware how much of a
hypocrite that makes me :-), but, given the time constraints, it was a
limitation of the back end solution we had to accept, with plans to convert
it to HTML4 later on.

--
Lachlan Hunt
http://lachy.id.au/

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RE: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash

[ByteDreams]

 
I like your test page.  I find it quite useful.  I've bookmarked it to share
it with some friends.

Eileen Russell
http://www.bytedreams.com

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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:05 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash

http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html

Don't wuite understand what you are asking, but lol, asked several questions
recently myself about valid swf files and why one worked in IE and not in
FF. Here is my test page with several examples.

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From: "Martin Heiden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sean Jones" 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash


> Sean,
>
> Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote:
>
> SJ> scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to 
> embed
> SJ> flash using CSS.
>
> I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these
> methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed
> flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also
> use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is
> really no need to do so.)
>
> Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for
> your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that Jesse
> already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single
> maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS,  favourite server side programming language her>, or simple Dreamweaver
> templates to do so.)
>
> If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional
> comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the
> specific browsers:
>
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
>
> This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments.
> IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about
> that.
>
> I hope, I could help you.
>
> Martin.
>
> PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed
> flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't
> imagine that.
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RE: [WSG] A Question of Slices

[ByteDreams]

 
Well, I did think they were kinda hard to read
I've seen this type of layout often, using Flash or even Swish or toon boon
-- but that's a different subject.

ByteDreams

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On Behalf Of Chris Kennon
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:49 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] A Question of Slices

Hi,

Thanks Lea & Byte,

Does this also beg the question, are the tabs to small?


Both slicing suggestions seem valid, and which is most suitable will have to
be proven in a UA. So thanks again, a good start for experimentation.

Chris
On Jan 29, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Lea de Groot wrote:

> On 30/01/2006, at 8:14 AM, Chris Kennon wrote:
>>>>> http://working.bushidodeep.com/remix/remix_bg.jpg
>> The plan is the very back (the textured back ground) is the 
>> container_bg, the cards are the content_bg, and my question was on 
>> properly slicing up the tabs along the right side of the cards, for 
>> use as navigation,
>
> Ah, my apologies - I didn't even *see* the tabs :( I think my first 
> attempt would to cut the image into 5 pieces:
> - the entire left hand side
> - top right hand piece, including top tab
> - 2 x middle tabs, out to right hand edge of image
> - bottom right hand piece, including bottom tab.
>
> This gives the minimum number of pieces to apply to elements.
> Hmmm... although thats going to make the anchor over the large pieces 
> difficult...
>
> OK, second try:
> I would cut it into 6 pieces:
> - the left hand piece, to the edge of the top piece of paper
> - the right hand piece, from that edge to the right hand edge of the 
> image *and do some clever editing so the tabs dont appear*
> - then one piece for each tab. This would overlay the large right hand 
> piece I assume the tab sticking out further is the current one - a 
> separate image for that.
> Not sure if I would make the list item containing the tab the size of 
> the larger tab or the size of the smaller one, I would have to 
> experiment.
>
> Does that help more?
> :)
>
> warmly,
> Lea
> --
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> Brisbane, Australia
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RE: [WSG] A Question of Slices

[ByteDreams]

 
If the problem you're having seems to be the page Imageready generates, then
you only need to change the code on the generated page it seems. Use the
guides that you pull out from the rulers, then you can slice with the
slicing tool.  At least the generated page will give you the x y placement
info that you can edit to your liking. Just a thought...

Eileen Russell
http://www.bytedreams.com

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On Behalf Of Chris Kennon
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:36 PM
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Subject: [WSG] A Question of Slices

Hi,

I've a question regarding, preparing the navigational tabs for a 
background. Would someone take a look, offering suggestions on correct
slicing so as not to leave it to ImageReady's, sometime non- standards
solution?


http://working.bushidodeep.com/remix/remix_bg.jpg


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RE: [WSG] Using CSS for Flash backgrounds

[ByteDreams]

I remember coming across a fix for Opera that uses 
_javascript_, I just don't remember where I saw it now. Sorry!
 
Eileen Russell
http://www.bytedreams.com 
 
 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon 
DawsonSent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 6:57 PMTo: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] Using CSS for Flash 
backgrounds
Hello all,I read recently that it wasn't possible to have 
flash backgrounds so I thought I'd give it a go. Turns out it is possible but it 
won't work in Opera and I'm curious as to why it won't.http://www.jomni.com/sandbox/flash_bg/Any 
ideas?Thanks,Jon
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RE: [WSG] computer arts mag article/review

[ByteDreams]

 
CA?  I just wish they'd make a mag where the print is easy to read.  I could
go blind trying to read one of their tutorias!  Maybe the Print industry
needs some new standards themselves

ByteDreams
http://www.bytedreams.com

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On Behalf Of kvnmcwebn
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] computer arts mag article/review

Hello list,
I picked up last months edition of computer arts, theres an article about
creating liquid css layouts.
dissapointing really, didnt got into detail. 
Also there was a review of Dreamweaver 8. 
CSS tools beefed up with a new css previewer. Looks good anybody used it
yet?
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RE: [WSG] Online Resources for HTML Beginners

[ByteDreams]

 
I try to keep my list updated here at my MSN Group.  I have lists for CSS
and HTML and other stuff.  You're welcome to browse the lists and even join
if you like...

http://groups.msn.com/HTMLWebDesignDreamers/htmlxhtmltutorials.msnw

Eileen Russell
http://www.bytedreams.com

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Subject: [WSG] Online Resources for HTML Beginners

I'll shortly be teaching a class in HTML basics.

I'm confident in teaching them the *absolute* basics, but if the people in
the class want to go on to be coders, which online resources would you
recommend?

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Re: [WSG] CMS - Can you use Wordpress to act as your calendar on a "normal" web page.

[ByteDreams]

Probably address this to Wordpress' community 
or to http://www.codex.org/ which also has a 
forum

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Craig Rippon 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:07 
  AM
  Subject: [WSG] CMS - Can you use 
  Wordpress to act as your calendar on a "normal" web page.
  
  
  Hi 
  Guys,
   
  I’m looking for a an easy to 
  maintain calendar that will list events in a “list” format, rather than in a 
  calendar format.
   
  It has to be able to be used by 
  people who have no real interest in computers, so I was wondering if you could 
  somehow use Wordpress with one of the calendar plugins but integrate that with 
  your “normal” web page, as opposed o a full-on Wordpress 
  blog.
   
  The alternative I guess is to bend 
  Wordpress to look like they wanted their webpage!
   
  Thanks for 
  listening
   
  Craig “Fattyboombah” 
  Rippon
  Brisbane, 
  Australia
   

Re: [WSG] Prototype Framework

[ByteDreams]

very interesting!
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To: 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: [WSG] Prototype Framework


>
>
>
>
> See http://openrico.org/home.page for applications based on it.
>
>
>
>
>
>  "Bret Lester"
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  a.com> To
>  Sent by:  
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>Subject
>RE: [WSG] Prototype Framework
>  07/14/2005 05:21
>  PM
>
>
>  Please respond to
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  roup.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone checked out the JavaScript Prototype framework?
>
> http://prototype.conio.net/
>
> Are there any good resources around that explain how it works?
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Re: [WSG] *DETECTED* Online User Violation

[ByteDreams]

Just got that same email.  Thanks to all on the list for alerting.  I
deleted without opening the file that was attached.

ByteDreams
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] *DETECTED* Online User Violation


> I've been receiving a few messages like this, but from my
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" so it looks like I'm emailing myself.  It always
> says "more info is attached" and there's always a zipped attachment
> included.
>
> ~john
> Just fair-weather words
> from a four-letter friend.
>
>
>
>
> on 5/31/2005 10:06 AM Rick Faaberg said the following:
> > On 5/31/05 1:47 AM "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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> > sent this out:
> >
> >> We regret to inform you that your account has been suspended due to the
> >> violation of our site policy, more info is attached.
> >
> > Detected what? What did I do so wrong?
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> >
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RE: [WSG] Best way to train someone in css and web standards

[ByteDreams]

I keep a list of online tutorials at my msn group site, http://groups.msn.com/htmlwebdesigndreamers/  
and try to keep it as up to date as possible.  You will see "CSS Tutorials 
in the lefthand nav bar of the group.  There you will find tuts and 
articles from  beginners to advance that I've scoped the 'net for.  I 
like Ben's idea too, and will try that for myself.  I wonder if a person 
that only has html knowledge will be able to learn CSS using this method 
alone though. 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cole Kuryakin - 
x7mSent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:35 AMTo: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] Best way to train someone in 
css and web standards

Hello All -
 
I have the opportunity to hire two people in the next few 
weeks to help me with my one-man-band web development business.
 
Problem is, these two know only the most basic aspects of HTML 
and don't know anything about CSS or web standards.
 
Problem also is that I can't afford to hire anyone currently 
proficient at these two disciplines.
 
Learning CSS was a painfully slow process for me (as I never 
had time to concentrate on it, or standards coding, because I was always doing 
everything else as well). To this day, I still wouldn't consider 
myself anywhere near expert level: The moans and groans and "geez, why did 
that happen" is pretty much behind me, but I'm no expert.
 
Since I'll still be too busy to sit with them for hours at a 
time teaching them the little that I know, I'd like to have some opinions on the 
best way to bring two absolute newbies up to CSS/Web Standards proficiency 
without me having to be at their elbow every step along the way.
 
By proficiency, I mean that I can give them a Photoshop design 
comp, and they will be able to create an XHTML code foundation as well 
as a CSS style and positioning spec without too much whining and 
head-scratching.
 
My plan is to get them completely compeletely 
trained in these areas before letting them dive into any real project 
development.
 
All comments welcome and greatly appreciated.
 
Cole

RE: [WSG] Any comic-artists?

[ByteDreams]

I'm pretty slow drawing, but have a lot of friends at  MSN group that might
be interested.
http://groups.msn.com/guydoriansworldofcomicbookart/




ByteDreams


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Subject: [WSG] Any comic-artists?

Hi

Some of you may have come across the web-standards antics of
"WebStandardsMan" on various internet forums and newsgroups.

Just FYI, yes... that's me

I was wondering if there were any comic-book artists, or anyone with a
talent with DC/Marvel style illustration who's prepared to spend some time
working with me on a one-off comic book (distributed on the 'net) focused on
web-standards and the adventures of the fictional character as he battles
the evils of tabular layout and non-semantic-ism.

Any takers? :)

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Re: [WSG] CSS3.0

[ByteDreams]

thxs, LH.  Looks llike I'll have to keep an eye on your site then.  :)
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS3.0


> ByteDreams wrote:
> > I'm a newbie, I admit, so allow me to ask a dumb question.  Are there
any
> > browsers currently supporting some of these CSS3 modules?  I sure would
like
> > to try some experimental stuff with these tags if there are...
>
> Try Blake Scarborough's piece from last November: Looking Around the
> Corner at CSS3 [1]
>
> And Stuart Langridge's article from August 2002(!): External Links the
> CSS Way [2]
>
> The latter illustrates one relatively common use of substring matching
> that the former fails to mention
>
> Personally, I use CSS3 in a 'progressive enhancement' fashion. None of
> my pages rely on it, but if you have a supporting browser you get a few
> bonuses
>
> Enjoy!
> Lachlan
>
> [1] http://www.blakems.com/archives/88.html
> [2] http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2002/08/30/external
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Re: [WSG] CSS3.0

[ByteDreams]

Thnks all.  It seems the multiple background image ability is not supported
in any of these browsers.  I would have loved to try this out the most.

ByteDreams
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS3.0


>
> On 18 Feb 2005, at 2:42 am, Kornel Lesinski wrote:
>
> >> I'm a newbie, I admit, so allow me to ask a dumb question.  Are there
> >> any
> >> browsers currently supporting some of these CSS3 modules?
> >
> > Yes. Experiments, some using CSS3, are in CSS section on
> > literarymoose.info
> >
> > Gecko support some CSS3 selectors,
> > Opera supports part of CSS3 Generated Content module,
> > and IE is a base for Asian text in CSS3 Text module.
>
> And Safari 1.2 has about the same level of support for CSS3 selectors
> as Gecko. (Safari support ::selection ! Gecko -moz::selection)
> Opacity (color module) is supported by both Gecko and Safari; Safari
> has some more support for this module, but it is uneven (rgba).
> I wish nth-child was supported  -)
>
> Safari 2 might surprise us in this field, when it is released.
>
> IE win supports lots of the CSS3 text-module, although with a different
> syntax sometimes. Esp good for Asian text (text-align:justify;
> text-justify:inter-ideograph is very cool in IE for longer articles).
>
> Philippe
> ---/---
> Philippe Wittenbergh
> now live : <http://emps.l-c-n.com/>
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Re: [WSG] CSS3.0

[ByteDreams]

thxs, LH.  Looks llike I'll have to keep an eye on your site then.  :)
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS3.0


> ByteDreams wrote:
> > I'm a newbie, I admit, so allow me to ask a dumb question.  Are there
any
> > browsers currently supporting some of these CSS3 modules?  I sure would
like
> > to try some experimental stuff with these tags if there are...
>
> Try Blake Scarborough's piece from last November: Looking Around the
> Corner at CSS3 [1]
>
> And Stuart Langridge's article from August 2002(!): External Links the
> CSS Way [2]
>
> The latter illustrates one relatively common use of substring matching
> that the former fails to mention
>
> Personally, I use CSS3 in a 'progressive enhancement' fashion. None of
> my pages rely on it, but if you have a supporting browser you get a few
> bonuses
>
> Enjoy!
> Lachlan
>
> [1] http://www.blakems.com/archives/88.html
> [2] http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2002/08/30/external
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Re: [WSG] CSS3.0

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Thnks all.  It seems the multiple background image ability is not supported
in any of these browsers.  I would have loved to try this out the most.

ByteDreams
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From: "Philippe Wittenbergh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS3.0


>
> On 18 Feb 2005, at 2:42 am, Kornel Lesinski wrote:
>
> >> I'm a newbie, I admit, so allow me to ask a dumb question.  Are there
> >> any
> >> browsers currently supporting some of these CSS3 modules?
> >
> > Yes. Experiments, some using CSS3, are in CSS section on
> > literarymoose.info
> >
> > Gecko support some CSS3 selectors,
> > Opera supports part of CSS3 Generated Content module,
> > and IE is a base for Asian text in CSS3 Text module.
>
> And Safari 1.2 has about the same level of support for CSS3 selectors
> as Gecko. (Safari support ::selection ! Gecko -moz::selection)
> Opacity (color module) is supported by both Gecko and Safari; Safari
> has some more support for this module, but it is uneven (rgba).
> I wish nth-child was supported  -)
>
> Safari 2 might surprise us in this field, when it is released.
>
> IE win supports lots of the CSS3 text-module, although with a different
> syntax sometimes. Esp good for Asian text (text-align:justify;
> text-justify:inter-ideograph is very cool in IE for longer articles).
>
> Philippe
> ---/---
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> now live : <http://emps.l-c-n.com/>
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Re: [WSG] CSS3.0

[ByteDreams]

I'm a newbie, I admit, so allow me to ask a dumb question.  Are there any
browsers currently supporting some of these CSS3 modules?  I sure would like
to try some experimental stuff with these tags if there are...

ByteDreams
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Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS3.0


> I realise that many people have already responded.
> Sorry for the echo. I'm not in the CSS working group, but
> I do work for W3C.
>
> On 17 Feb 2005, at 10:31, David R wrote:
>
> > Just out of curiosity...
> >
> > Is the CSS3.0 Spec finalised, or are they still accepting suggestions
> > and comments?
>
> I'm not sure there will ever be a CSS 3.0 spec. Rather, CSS 3 (the
> technology) consists of a number of modules. Some modules are further
> along the standardisation process than others. I'm also not sure that
> the CSS WG have ruled out adding new modules or removing existing ones
> (for a good reason of course :). Maybe once all the modules are W3C
> Recommendations, there will be a proclamation that CSS 3 exists.
>
> Are we still accepting comments? Yes. We accept comments at any time in
> the process. Some Web Essentials 04 attendees may remember somewhere
> during one of my incomprehensible rants I mentioned that the phases
> "Last Call" and "Candidate Recommendation" are very important because
> there is an obligation for the W3C to respond to every comment (no
> matter from where it comes). Most Working Groups try to respond to all
> comments all the time, but that can be very time consuming (especially
> for a popular tech like CSS).
>
> So please, send in your comments. On anything W3C-related.
>
> In my perfect world, you'd all feel as if you are part of W3C. You
> already have a huge influence on the work, even though you may not be
> the ones sitting around a table and fighting.
>
> >
> > Because I really want to suggest "multiple background images" for
> > CSS3.0 (provided it isn't suggested already)
>
> Multiple people have pointed at yesterday's draft which has this
> feature.
>
> [Aside: My personal opinion, as someone who is more graphics oriented,
> is that this solution still needs work]
>
> > Where do I find the "Suggestion Box" for the W3C? ;)
>
> For CSS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> Dean
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RE: [WSG] design of Macromedia site

[ByteDreams]

Thank you very much.  I will take a look.  
Sure sounds like it, though I hope I don't have to purchase the 
article..
ByteDreams

 
 


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Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:58 PMTo: 
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site
not sure which 1 ur talking bout but 
communitymx.com showed how to do it this week
Recreating Macromedia's LayoutMacromedia's current web site layout 
contains two effects that are very popular today: equal-height columns and 
rounded corners on columns and boxes. When these two effects are combined, it 
creates a slick and impressive looking web site. Although there are numerous 
articles out there describing how to achieve both of these effects in CSS, there 
is not much written about how to achieve both of them in conjunction. 
Surprisingly, the effect can be quite simple to achieve, as our deconstruction 
of Macromedia's site will reveal. We'll show you how they achieve this layout 
feat, then describe an alternative way to produce the rounded corner effect that 
is more streamlined. 
Sendhttp://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=AC5ACif ur not a 
member it will cost ya a few bucks but well worth it, they have been putting on 
lots of this stuff lately

From: "ByteDreams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Saturday, 
February 05, 2005 8:56 PMTo: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] design of Macromedia 
siteA long while back I ran across an article someplace 
explaining how thosecontent boxes and the images on macromedia's website 
were created. I lovethis style, and was looking for a similar tutorial. 
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A long while back I ran across an article someplace explaining how those
content boxes and the images on macromedia's website were created.  I love
this style, and was looking for a similar tutorial.  Anyone know?

Thanks 
 

ByteDreams

 

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RE: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry

[ByteDreams]

Perhaps designing for 480x640 then instead of 640x480...;) 


ByteDreams


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> we aren’t designing for 600 * 480 anymore!

Well, maybe we'll begin again shortly - new PDAs are comming to the market
with VGA (480x640) resolution... :P

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RE: [WSG] Why style to IE?

[ByteDreams]

Title: RE: [WSG] Why style to IE?






One other thing...  Have you not used this method yourself for any particular reason, other than the opportunity just didn't present itself?  Just curious. 


ByteDreams



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Subject: Re: [WSG] Why style to IE?


Collin Davis wrote:


>The bashing of head against the proverbial brick wall comes from trying to make my standards-compliant sites work the same in FF/Opera/NN/Safari as they do in IE. I first make sure the sites look and perform the way I want in both MSIE 5 and 6.  After that is successful, I then start testing in the other browsers.

>

And there's your mistake. As has been discussed many times on this list and elsewhere, it's much easier and faster to first code to standards and then correct for IE.

>While I do know ECMA-262 (_javascript_), I hate using it.

>

I don't know how well you do or do not know _javascript_, but I suspect that either you don't know _javascript_ very well (a common occurrence), or don't like to program (do such people really exist?  ;-) ). I have found that the better I come to understand _javascript_, the more I like it; in many ways it is an interesting, powerful little, often misunderstood, language.[1]

Lest I be misunderstood (a seemingly common occurrence of late), I was only guessing to what I felt was a likely source for your comment. You are, of course, equally entitled to your own opinion as I am to mine, and no insult is intended.

[1] "_javascript_:The World's Most Misunderstood Programming Language" by Douglas Crockford <http://www.crockford.com/_javascript_/_javascript_.html>

>I can develop much quicker just using a pure markup+css approach, and have no need for scripting.

>

There's no need to do your own scripting (though that happens to be my preference). All you need to do is plug in Dean Edwards's IE7 <http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/>. While I haven't used it myself, it's gotten good reviews.

>I hope that makes my original post clearer.

>  

>

I think you've made your point of view clearer.


>In no way did I think Mordechai was suggesting an ignoring an IE, but 

>was asking why style to IE specifically, and I was just giving the 

>rationale for doing so.

>  

>

Actually, what I was questioning is why we should limit ourselves to the CSS which IE understands natively when _javascript_ can be such a good translator.

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RE: [WSG] Why style to IE?

[ByteDreams]

Title: RE: [WSG] Why style to IE?






Thanks for the Dean Edwards link!  



ByteDreams



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Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:01 PM

To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

Subject: Re: [WSG] Why style to IE?


Collin Davis wrote:


>The bashing of head against the proverbial brick wall comes from trying to make my standards-compliant sites work the same in FF/Opera/NN/Safari as they do in IE. I first make sure the sites look and perform the way I want in both MSIE 5 and 6.  After that is successful, I then start testing in the other browsers.

>

And there's your mistake. As has been discussed many times on this list and elsewhere, it's much easier and faster to first code to standards and then correct for IE.

>While I do know ECMA-262 (_javascript_), I hate using it.

>

I don't know how well you do or do not know _javascript_, but I suspect that either you don't know _javascript_ very well (a common occurrence), or don't like to program (do such people really exist?  ;-) ). I have found that the better I come to understand _javascript_, the more I like it; in many ways it is an interesting, powerful little, often misunderstood, language.[1]

Lest I be misunderstood (a seemingly common occurrence of late), I was only guessing to what I felt was a likely source for your comment. You are, of course, equally entitled to your own opinion as I am to mine, and no insult is intended.

[1] "_javascript_:The World's Most Misunderstood Programming Language" by Douglas Crockford <http://www.crockford.com/_javascript_/_javascript_.html>

>I can develop much quicker just using a pure markup+css approach, and have no need for scripting.

>

There's no need to do your own scripting (though that happens to be my preference). All you need to do is plug in Dean Edwards's IE7 <http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/>. While I haven't used it myself, it's gotten good reviews.

>I hope that makes my original post clearer.

>  

>

I think you've made your point of view clearer.


>In no way did I think Mordechai was suggesting an ignoring an IE, but 

>was asking why style to IE specifically, and I was just giving the 

>rationale for doing so.

>  

>

Actually, what I was questioning is why we should limit ourselves to the CSS which IE understands natively when _javascript_ can be such a good translator.

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RE: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry

[ByteDreams]

Title: RE: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry






Definitely deserves an award for this one...  LOL 



ByteDreams



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Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 9:38 AM

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Subject: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry


Now there were some people on-list who thought the last Zen Garden entry I posted lacked a certain "wow" factor. Well, how about this entry which seems to have it all... Style... Class... Wow... and lots of animation!

http://brucelawson.co.uk/zengarden.htm


:)

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RE: [WSG] About the standard Price for our website design .

[ByteDreams]

http://www.hwg.org/resources/faqs/ratesFAQ.html

perhaps this will be useful, maybe not. 
But the discussion has been found inappropriate for the list.  I apologize for
continuing it, but just wanted to share a link I had on the topic.

 

ByteDreams

 









From:
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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004
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Subject: [WSG] About the standard
Price for our website design .



 



Hey, all :





 





Just like every one in our
group, I am one of Graphic web designer, work in freelance.






 





I have one problem need to ask the
help :





 





About the Price
standard for our website design .





Like we know everybody, Design one
website from begin and end, took us so much time, and idea.





because one progetto like website, it is
not only to know how use the Dreamwear, o CSS o _javascript_ ..





There have more about the Creativity, so
always took us so much think and time. 





So for the price it make me one big
stress. 





 





I don't know which way can make balance
between us and client. 





Pls if somebody can help me to make easy
with my work.Thanks so much !





 





Best regards





 





Ai Ling





 








 





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Grafica arte & Web Design





 





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Sent: Thursday, July
08, 2004 6:49 PM





Subject: RE: [WSG] WAI:
successful Australian (or global) examples





 





I have, but they have been when working
for companies, and often only a section of a large site.





 





Here's a few people who do actually work
in this area, tendering for and delivering WAI sites for Government.  Try
contacting them directly.  I'm sure they would be willing to help.





 





Sandra Vassallo





tel:    (02)
9810 2216
mob:    0414 765 881 
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
e-bility web:   http://www.e-bility.com 
Inclusive IT:   http://www.inclusiveit.com.au/ 





 





 





Gian Sampson-Wild







http://www.purpletop.com.au/





 





 





Also Andrew Arch and Brian Hardy from
(contact details at the bottom of the second link)





http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/







http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/webaccessibility/workshops/





 





 





-Original Message-
From: Ben Webster
Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2004 5:18
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Subject: [WSG] WAI: successful
Australian (or global) examples



Hey there crew,





 





I'm putting in a tender for some government work and one of the
requirements is some successful WAI sites that I've been involved in. 





I've actually not been involved in a single one and I think this
requirement is a little stringent. Has anyone out there been involved in a
successful example?





 





It doesn't have to be Australian even... I just need some examples (or
lack of) so I can point out to them that the requirement is a little harsh.





 





A bientot,





Benvolio






Ben Webster





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Re: [WSG] Does anybody know an expandable vertical css/js menu based on uls?

[ByteDreams]

Nice Kyle.  But I was just wondering, when you click on a link on that menu,
the bullets flash off and on real quick -- is that intentional?

ByteDreams
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Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Does anybody know an expandable vertical css/js menu
based on uls?


> http://pukupi.com uses an unordered list menu with CSS and JS. I'm only
> going one sub-level deep but deeper sub-levels are simple enough to
> implement.
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> > Hi Folks!
> > Could one of you please point me to a vertical menu solution based on
> > css/js and semantically structured by ul/li's?
> > I'd love to have a solution that opens a sublevel-ul when clicked on a
> > toplevel navigation item. It would need 4-5 sublevels...
> > I know this is a lot to ask for, but maybe somebody knows a
> > webstandard - konform solution to that bugger ;)
> >
> > Thanks alot in advance!
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [WSG] Does anybody know an expandable vertical css/js menu based on uls?

[ByteDreams]

Nice Kyle.  But I was just wondering, when you click on a link on that menu,
the bullets flash off and on real quick -- is that intentional?

ByteDreams
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From: "Kyle Barrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Does anybody know an expandable vertical css/js menu
based on uls?


> http://pukupi.com uses an unordered list menu with CSS and JS. I'm only
> going one sub-level deep but deeper sub-levels are simple enough to
> implement.
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> > Hi Folks!
> > Could one of you please point me to a vertical menu solution based on
> > css/js and semantically structured by ul/li's?
> > I'd love to have a solution that opens a sublevel-ul when clicked on a
> > toplevel navigation item. It would need 4-5 sublevels...
> > I know this is a lot to ask for, but maybe somebody knows a
> > webstandard - konform solution to that bugger ;)
> >
> > Thanks alot in advance!
> >
> >
>
>
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>
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RE: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs

[ByteDreams]

I find that very interesting, Bert.  Never knew the object tag could be used
in such a fashion.

I love this list!

ByteDreams

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bert Doorn
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 7:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs

G'day

> So I've read that Scrolling Divs is the way to go vs. iFrames,
> but what about in the case of wanting to call a new page into 
> the iFrame?  

iFrame is valid XHTML 1 Transitional (and Frameset) but it is not available
in the Strict DTD (and probably won't be available in future recommendations
of XHTML).  To embed a document in Strict,  use the object element.
Something like:  



See www.w3.org/TR/html401/present/frames.html#edef-IFRAME
And www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/objects.html#edef-OBJECT

I do recall reading somewhere that it's possible to link a div to an
external source (it used an attribute like "data" or "src") but I think it
was a Netscape-ism.

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RE: [WSG] [OT] UniversalHead blog

[ByteDreams]

 

You could use free bannerless place
temporarily if you like – http://www.xaxax.com


 









From:
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Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:29
AM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] [OT]
UniversalHead blog



 

Sorry everybody I jumped the gun - it will take several days for this
new URL to be recognised worldwide, so you'll probably get a coming soon page
for a while - my apologies.
Peter


Universal Head 
Design That Works.

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Stanmore
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RE: [WSG] A discussion leads to an idea - Dynamic CSS!

[ByteDreams]

Toying with some Content management systems like phpNuke once, I think the
stylesheets are dynamic...

ByteDreams


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Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:21 AM
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Subject: [WSG] A discussion leads to an idea - Dynamic CSS!

I met with a programmer today to actually discuss the idea of a Portland,
Oregon based WSG - he likes the idea and will talk to others about the idea.

However, during our ongoing 3 hour conversation over a few pints, the
discussion eventually moved from WSG to web design and then to experimental
design.

Then an interesting idea hit the table, what is to prevent a person from
creating a dynamic stylesheet.

Has anyone ever toyed with this idea before and if so what were the
results???

Brian

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RE: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

[ByteDreams]

One of the emails I received from a Tim Lucas had an attachment that
Symantech flagged as a virus.

ByteDreams

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Behalf Of Andrew Krespanis
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

Ok, I'm a full-time student, and as such, I'm full-time broke :(
I'm VERY keen to attend this seminar, and I'm wondering if any other 
students want to band together and try for some kind of "group discount"?  
Email me if you're interested...
Andrew.

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RE: [WSG] MovableType books or tutorials

[ByteDreams]

Movabletype.org has links to tutorials and a link to a webring about it...

ByteDreams

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Subject: [WSG] MovableType books or tutorials

Comrades

Can anyone point me in the direction of decent MT reference material?
Tutorials, tips etc.

I'm just playing with the application for the first time, looks like I'm in
for a few late nights...

Malarkey

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RE: [WSG] marquee text

[ByteDreams]

 

Don’t know if this will help you – I’m new
to web standards stuff, but Project VII makes extensions for Dreamweaver, and
one of them animates layers.  I think the extension is free. What I don’t know
is if the _javascript_, for which this extension produces is also considered
accessible or within web standards…

 

The extension can be found on Macromedia
Exchange site.

FW: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

[ByteDreams]

I recently joined, about uh,... Yesterday.
Couldn't have picked a better time to bring up this subject. I'm neither a
beginner, nor an expert, and I did join it to learn about web standards,
and appreciate it when I can learn something else, something more.  So I
guess I'll be one of those people that contribute little, while I catch up
to the rest of you.

..from the new kid on the block,
ByteDreams

-Original Message-
From: Mark Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list



Hi Mike

The purpose of this list is two fold: Q&A stuff and general web standards
discussion/news updates. We have tried to create a culture on this list
that is very topic based rather than creating a really chatty community
with lots of OT posts about what people got up to on the weekend.

So basically we want this list to contain anything and everything as long
as its on topic.

I realise that there are other CSS Q&A lists out there, but this list is
different in the sense that it is really the extension of a group and the
group's meetings. I would say that at the moment the membership of the
list these days far exceeds the attendance of our meetings, but the list
has evolved out of the group & group meetings.

People who can't make it to meetings are always welcomed & encouraged to
organise meetings in their areas.

We are very aware of list volume issues and understand that this is a
touchy subject for some, but at the same time getting too restrictive will
alienate other list members.

I've got a graphic artist in here who has similar complaints to yours - he
finds Russ's emails with lists of links very interesting because they give
him a good idea of issues that he has to design around and techniques that
we can be employing. But he doesn't code CSS all day so he doesn't really
get much from the "how do I get this float working" posts.

What would you think about a blog & RSS feed for news stuff (or would this
just be "another CSS blog")? Or two lists, one for news and one for
implementation issues?

Anyway its an open issue at the moment - we're still trying to find the
right mix.


Cheers

Mark


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