RE: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?
Anton Babushkin wrote: It has absolute truth. I work in the biggest state government department in Australia and we have that exact minus one policy, which means never being at the bleeding edge. There are tons and tons of in house applications that have (sadly) been built around the IE6 platform, which would be an absolute disaster for the department if IE7 was suddenly rolled out If there was truly a 'minus one' policy they would only started developing for IE6, when IE7 was released Regards Jason Turnbull *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] WCAG Samurai Errata
Matthew Pennell wrote: I think it's been shown that just about all keys interfere with someone's shortcuts, whether it's a browser, screenreader, foreign characters, or whatever. Frank Palinkas wrote: Interesting. Please tell me where this info is shown? I'd like to know more. Some Info: http://www.wats.ca/show.php?contentid=32 http://www.wats.ca/show.php?contentid=43 http://juicystudio.com/article/firefox2-accesskeys.php Regards Jason *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?
Michael MD wrote: ...however I might use that word on pages that require javascript such as those that use an external api to display maps. The only people able to use those pages are people using a web browser that can execute javascript... and 99.99% of such users would be using a mouse or a pointing device designed to emulate a mouse! These phones have JavaScript support using WebCore and JavaScriptCore open source components, many without a pointing device http://www.s60.com/business/productinfo/applicationsandtechnologies/webrowse r/ Jason *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] .NET generate horrible html, i need some lights
Gaspar wrote: I've been reading some stuff of Ms, http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa479043.aspx. We use both .net 2 and 1 or 1.1, i think they dont care much about if a menu is tables inside a table but i fighting against taht proving that the weight is 3 /5 times more and semantic of elements. but first i want to understand what can i do to help they sow i want to learn all about compliant ASP. These CSS control adaptors change the html output of default controls, such as menu http://www.asp.net/cssadapters/ Jason i dont understand quite well what does this.. Due to adaptive rendering, if you want to validate using W3C validator add the following file (remove .txt) to a directory called App_Browsers http://idunno.org/misc/w3cvalidator.browser.txt; Depending what browser or internet device the ASP.NET site is accessed with the X/HTML code can change, the W3C validator is not recognised as a 'high level' browser so the markup rendered is at times invalid, the reason being to be compatible with older browsers http://idunno.org/archive/2005/01/01/216.aspx Regards Jason *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] .NET generate horrible html, i need some lights
Gaspar wrote: Could someone give me some links or some stuff that someone without knowledge of ASP could help implementing some improves generate GOOD (X)HTML What version of .NET are you using? There is a big difference between 1.0 2.0. These following links apply to version 2.0 http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/exc57y7e.aspx http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa479043.aspx Change the conformance to strict in the web.config system.web xhtmlConformance mode=Strict / /system.web Due to adaptive rendering, if you want to validate using W3C validator add the following file (remove .txt) to a directory called App_Browsers http://idunno.org/misc/w3cvalidator.browser.txt Regards Jason *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
Kevin Ross wrote: is there a way to put that whole section in my Style sheet file? Or in a seperate file so I can maintain the rules centrally? Move all your styles into a CSS file ie6.css and just link to the style sheet as you normally would but within the conditional comment !--[if lte IE 6] link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=screen href=ie6.css / ![endif]-- Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
Kevin Ross wrote:
http://www.hudsonantiquecarclub.com/index.html
IE6 adds an reverse indent just under the header Monthly Meetings
(Paragraph starting Rudy's...)
Is this to do with the thumbnail to the left?
Known as the 3 pixel text-jog
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/threepxtest.html
Easily fixed by adding #content_home to the IE specific style you have
already:
ul a, ul, li, #content_home {height: 1%;} /* Holly hack fix for IE bugs */
Regards
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RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
ul a, ul, li, #content_home {height: 1%;} /* Holly hack fix for IE
bugs */
That is a bit radical... giving all those element 'layout' can
possibly cause more problems than it fixes.
In this case:
/* - hide form IE Mac - \*/
* html #content_contain {height:1%}
/* - end hiding - */
ought to do nicely.
(and served only to IE 6 and below. That 3px jog thing is reportedly
fixed in IE 7 alpha0).
Your right Philippe it is radical, I added to styles within IE conditional
comments that already existed.
Philippe has a point about IE7, currently your conditional comments target
all versions of IE and should only need IE6 and below: !--[if lte IE 6]
Regards
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RE: [WSG] Office Live was [Google pages]
I'm interested to hear if anyone in the US tried Microsoft Office live web site builder, BETA is unavailable to us outsiders http://officelive.microsoft.com Thanks Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] cool FAQ page [follow up]
Terrence Wood wrote: Jakob Nielsen responded to my request for clarification Jacob has used this request for his latest article http://www.useit.com/alertbox/within_page_links.html Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Address Element
Christian Montoya I told you, you are the author, as in, the markup-writer author... for every page you work on, the only person that can go in the address tag is you... or the webmaster running the site. I would disagree, for example when a book goes to print, does the printing house become the author as they put the ink to paper? While yes the web is different from print I see it in the same context, the author is whoever provided the content. A majority of the public only ever see the content displayed, and if they need to contact someone concerning the document content, providing a means of contacting the coder is meaningless. So if in there future is possible to extract the documents author from the address tag, I would think providing contact information about the author of the document would have more meaning. Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Sitecheck: 7 Sunrise Family website [sunrisefamily.com.au]
Joshua Street wrote: Still keen to hear anyone's suggestions as to the Firefox 1.0.x render problem... :) http://sunrisefamily.com.au/current/content/meet/ No problems seen using Firefox 1.07 on XP Pro. Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 Entities (WAS Claiming compliance when a site doesn't comply)
Kenny Graham wrote: I really hope I'm right, or I'm gonna have to go back to a lot of sites to fix a lot of ldquo;s and such. Philippe wrote: If you want to support Safari (with application/xhtml+xml), I'm afraid, you'll have to go back... If these entities are not allowed when served as application/xhtml+xml shouldn't the W3C validator pick this up? Or has Safari got it wrong? Thanks Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 Entities (WAS Claiming compliance when a site doesn't comply)
Patrick wrote: *browser support* for named entities can be flaky Sorry I missed post I'm still surprised that Safari has limited support Thanks Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] display: inline-block: valid or not? W3C validator says not.
CSS 2 - W3C recommendation CSS 2.1 - Working draft Until CSS 2.1 becomes a recommendation, which shouldn't be too long (deadline for comments was July), the W3C validator will use what ever the current recommendation is. Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] PNG Support
Jorge Colon wrote: Dear Friends, I have just read and signed the online petition: Proper PNG Support in Internet Explorer for Windows http://www.PetitionOnline.com/msiepng/ Appears MS is listening, heres an announcment regarding IE7 PNG http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/4/26.aspx Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Not so web standard question, but close
tee wrote: How does Asp/PHP works if amp' replace to because the '' is generated by the server. He said he can't find any information on PHP official website. This article from w3c might help in reference to PHP http://www.w3.org/QA/2005/04/php-session Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] what ie bug is this?
Kvnmcwebn wrote: What ie windows 6 bug creates relics like the ones at the bottom of the boxes in the central column of this page? http://mcmonagle.biz/OTI/INDEX3.HTM I built these ad boxes ( the ones with the radisson logo in the central column) using the ala custom corners method. Adding position:relative to div.ArticleFooter appears to fix it here This is from the ALA article: Our first attempt unleashed a cavalcade of calamities in IE6/Win, triggering bugs affecting z-index stacking level of our elements. Entire elements disappeared; margins acted like children kept up long past their bedtime. It was a mess. Then we learned that a simple position:relative and a well positioned br / could fix everything. View the source in Step 6 for further investigation. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners/ Reagrds Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Awards / Endorsements for quality websites?
Sigurd Magnusson wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew of a popular sites to promote semanitc or compliant (or good in general) websites? Guild of Accessible Web Designers have a 'Site of the Month' award, voting is by members only, you can nominate a site at http://www.gawds.org/poll/nominate.php Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] web design presentation: advice?
Zulema wrote: ps: butterflies in my stomach means that my tummy gets grumbly as if I'm hungry but it's from being nervous; it's a common saying in the States. As far as it being an in-code joke? No, at least i don't think so :-p Nick was referring to you use of 'butterfiles'. Butterflies is also a common phrase in Aus. Glad to hear the presentation went over well, I was keen to hear what the response would be like. I wish more teachers were passionate about web standards. After almost two yrs of promoting the use of CSS for layout to a local web design teacher (without much success), an introduction to W3C standards was introduced into the curriculum, which gave me the chance to quote W3C regarding the use of tables for layout. It was well received, to the extent he emailed other teachers in the faculty, stating his previous methods of design was not the best/right way, encouraging them all to learn about the W3C standards, only one of five teachers responded (I not a web design student just a friend) I'm not saying I would be a better person for the job, but that education is extremely important, teaching these fundamental techniques right from the start deserves all the praise it can get. Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] why 3px out in ie
Adam Hough wrote: http://dampsponge.com/pir/layouttest.htm Both are unaligned the same until i try and put a left margin on the .homebox class. If i put a 3px left margin on this box, firefox does exactly what i want with the alignment while ie is out of wack. IE6 doubles margin on floats, simply add display:inline homebox class http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html Testing this IE removed the margin spacing at the bottom when adding display:inline, was able to get the same result in Firefox and IE by removing the bottom margin from .homebox and adding bottom padding to #productwrap Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] A few problems with IE
Kim Kruse wrote: 1. Why won't IE pick up the .tabs hover style? Change the style .tabs li:hover To .tabs li a:hover 3. On this http://www.mouseriders.dk/test/kontakt.php why is the background color flowing out of the fieldset (top) This happens in IE, as this page explains http://www.themaninblue.com/experiment/InForm/fieldset.htm Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] CSS caching problem in IE and Firefox
Sean Ho wrote: I am having this caching problem everytime I update my CSS file and the browser suddenly stop showing the new changes. This only happens in IE and Firefox occasioinally. Have you tried force refreshing? IE - hold Ctrl and select refresh Firefox - hold Shift and select refresh Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] XHTML external links
Richard Czeiger wrote:
Hi guys - having a little problem with the whole external links in
XHTML strict.
Code's below - doesn't seem to be working - can you help out?
You were missing a couple of opening brackets, script below now works
ok.
Regards
Jason
script type=text/javascript
function externalLinks(){
if (!document.getElementsByTagName) return;
var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName(a);
for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++){
var anchor = anchors[i];
if (anchor.getAttribute(href) anchor.getAttribute(rel)
==external) {
anchor.target = _blank;
}
}
}
window.onload = externalLinks;
/script
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RE: [WSG] gBrowser from Google
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was recently told by a friend that there is talk of a browser to be released soon by Google called gBrowser I have googled for any news on it, and what support for standards it may have, but haven't really heard much.. Its been reported they have hired 4 IE developers http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2004/09/22/google_browser_coming.htm And the fact that Mozilla Developer Day was held at Google has people speculating what they have planned http://www.kottke.org/04/08/the-google-browser Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Updated Web Accessibility Tool bar
Jamie Mason wrote: Does anyone know if there's a firefox equivalent? http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefoxid =60vid=63 Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Keyboard accessible dropdown menus - using float layout
Jeffery Lowder wrote I'm looking for an example of a drop down menu that is keyboard accessible. Heres a couple http://www.udm4.com http://www.accessibility.nl//amenu/index.html Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Problem with height in div
Diego Diaz wrote: Hello again :) I try make a righ side with some content but this right side cut when the text finish and cannot enlarge to the bottom site. http://proyecto.crono.cl I try with height:100%; on html, body and in the class too. The name of the class is #ladorecho and my css is in css/estilo.css Hi Diego You could give the id 'pagina' the same background color as 'ladoderecho' which should achieve what you want. Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Why won't my background images show up in IE?
Bellamy wrote: http://216.119.123.23/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalogue.ListProductsID=2c at egory=Subcategory Have a look, tell me what you see. If you can see them fine, then I think I might just go quietly insane... ;) There was definitely a problem in IE6 the whole navigation was invisible here, removing the position:relative from the #mainPanel style (in sample.css) brought the menu back into view Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Why won't my background images show up in IE?
Seona Bellamy wrote:
Hmm... Thanks, that did seem to make a difference. At any rate, the
images
are showing up.
But instead of tiling nicely across the page, they're showing one to
a line and spreading over the whole width of the panel. I've had a
look,
and I'm not sure how to fix that. (It still works fine in Moz)
In your nav_main.css you have
HTML UL LI {
FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 1%
}
HTML UL LI A {
HEIGHT: 1%
}
Add the #navbar selector in front of these styles, as you have done with
the others in this css file
Using height:1% is usually a workaround for IE bugs so you might want to
hide them from other browsers
Regards
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RE: [WSG] Why won't my background images show up in IE?
Seona Bellamy wrote: As far as hiding from other browsers, I was aware that it was hidden from IE/Mac by the commented backslash (that's what the tutorial said, anyway) but is there a more effective way of hiding it from all the browsers that we don't want to see it? My apologies, saved the page in IE and it removed all comments Another way to feed styles to IE only is using conditional comments http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html This is the preferred method by many others on this list, as it allows easier maintenance in the future and keeps your main style sheets clean. Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Strange padding in IE?
James Cowperthwaite wrote: The layout problem occurs in IE (fine in mozilla). I want to keep the text flowing down the page in a straight line, but in IE when the text passes the end of the blue box, it moves in by 1 or 2 pixels (illustrated by the green left border for #main). I have boiled away the code to the following http://www.moomail.com.au/csspain/ http://www.moomail.com.au/csspain/painful.css 3 pixels to be exact, it's a well known IE bug more details and a fix can be seen here http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/threepxtest.html Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Why won't my background images show up in IE?
Seona, Are you able to provide a link to the page, as images display ok in IE6, with the code you provided. Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] CSS Tabs
Jad Madi wrote:
hmm
what I want is , for example
http://www.alistapart.com/d/slidingdoors2/v1/ex10a.html#
when I click on any tab to be active?
How to do it?
In the above example you change the body id of each page depending on
which tab you want to look active
Currently its set to body id=products
And the tab item is
li id=nav-productsa href=#Products/a/li
In the css this is the style applied (removed some selectors for this
example)
#home #nav-home,
#products #nav-products {
background-position:0 -150px;
border-width:0;
}
#home #nav-home a,
#products #nav-products a {
background-position:100% -150px;
padding-bottom:5px;
color:#333;
}
To have that page with the home tab active you would change the body to
body id=home
Hope this helps
Jason
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RE: [WSG] file extensions
Just finished article from a reputable web site, specializing in best practices. They suggest omitting the file extensions .gif , .jpg and .png from image files for bandwidth conservation. Chris, Whats the URL for this article. I'm finding it hard to grasp the reasoning, does it save on bandwidth as the images don't get displayed? :-) Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] strange white flash on mouseover
Neerav wrote: Anyone have an idea why the menu at left of http://www.h27.info/ works fine in Firefox 0.8, Opera 7 and IE 5.5 but in IE 6 when you mouseover the links they change from the image background into a white background until you mouseout ? Neerav, I'm not seeing this behaviour in updated IE6/XP pro Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Styled not picked up by FF
Kim Kruse wrote: Once again... thank you very much. It's almost embarrassing. Just out of curiosity... how long have you been working with CSS? Just over a year now, I by no means an expert. I was fortunate in that I started to learn web design using CSS, so I didn't have to change my way of thinking, ask me to do a nested table layout and I'd be lost. It is only because of mailing lists such as this and a large number of resources provided by the experts, that has made my learning experience easier. Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Styled not picked up by FF
Kim Kruse wrote: http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/ Is the padding on the #content is not being picked up by FF or is it something else preventing FF from moving the #content text down? Kim, The top navigation seems to be causing this, the #nav is floated left. Add a clear:left to the container style, which is what follows the #nav Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] New suckerfish menus
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ As the hidden menus are off screen I found tabbing through the links problematic, with the original suckerfish you could tab along the main sections. I realise display:none has been removed for screen reader access to all links. Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Extending full height (was Problem with IE)
Jamie Mason wrote: On higher resolutions the bottom of the pale tan nav area spills out 100% width below the content and behind the purple sidebar :( http://digiscape.net.au/test/mouseriders.htm IE wasn't clearing the right float, which I moved now inside the content div, and also gave the content div a 0.1% height (only for IE). Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Extending full height (was Problem with IE)
Kim wrote: I'm not sure I follow your suggestion. The problem is if I remove the pnbsp;/p the #navcontainer will be shorter that the content/sidebar meaning there will be a space between #navcontainer and #footer I uploaded the corrected version here Would it be possible to force the #navcontainer to stretch down to the #footer without the pnbsp;/p ? If so how? Kim, This another solution that doesn't require an image, I've put up the changes I made (without your images) in case I don't explain it too well. http://digiscape.net.au/test/mouseriders.htm I added the same background color you used on your left column to your container div, and made the content area and top menu have a white background The content div now has the black left side border (originally a right side border on navcontainer) and reduced the margins. I also added a clearing class to a br / at the bottom of the content. This allows your content to extend, and have the left hand column look like it extends all the way Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] 100% table inside auto width div
dean burge wrote: how do i make a table in the center column the full width (using css or otherwise)? works as expected in firefox, but having troubles with internet explorer. Hi Dean, Try adding a doctype at the top of your html, and IE will start to play along. This article has a list of doctypes and explanations http://www.alistapart.com/articles/doctype/ Regards Jason Turnbull * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] IE no padding?
Chris Stratford wrote: This STUPID bug with IE... why dont I see any padding for the content here: www.vipclubs.net It looks the same here on IE5.5/6 and Firefox/Mozilla It appears to have padding to the content The xml prolog ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? will put IE in quirks mode and can be removed safely Regards, Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Horizontal Rule throwing out design
Jackie Reid wrote: I have included an hr class=clear to the bottom of my wrapper to make the white background appear. I tried div's br's and they didnt work. hr did. Thats a bit strange I've never had a br class=clear / not work in firefox the spacing is fine but i can see the hr at the very bottom of the wrapper in ie i cant see the hr but i have too much space at the bottom of the page ...it should only show 5px margin... how do i make them go away...? I was trying to do this yesterday and eventually went back to using a br. IE was the only browser causing trouble, and I tried many different suggestions I found on the net I found a post by Eric Meyer to add visibility:hidden, but that still takes up space. So I would also like to hear if anyone has a solution Regards Jason Turnbull * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] XHTML: 1.0 transitional-1.0 strict-1.1
Neerav wrote: So now im comfortable using XHTML 1.0 transitional how hard would moving to 1.0 strict and then onto 1.1 be? The move from transitional to strict you wont find hard. This list of tags shows what is and isn't allowed in XHTML 1.0 strict, I do not know of any browser quirks cause by the strict doctype. http://www.w3schools.com/xhtml/xhtml_reference.asp While XHTML 1.0 *may* be served as text/html, XHTML 1.1 *must* be served as application/xhtml+xml. This creates major problems for IE as it only accepts text/html mime. http://keystonewebsites.com/articles/mime_type.php Furthur Reference for XHTML 1.1 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/ I may be wrong, but I don't think there is any need to have your average website using XHTML 1.1 doctype. Regards Jason Turnbul * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] mysterious space
Universal Head wrote:
Can anyone enlighten me on this ...
my thumbnail pics have about 5 pixels space at the bottom in IE6
that I can't work out how to remove. In the CSS I have specified
height and width, and padding is 0,.
http://www.cinema4duser.com/tech_feature01.html
Try adding font-size:0; to your clearer style
You have also specified a 5px margin at the bottom of the images in both
pic and piclast classes
.pic {
margin: 0 5px 5px 0;
}
The order is: top right bottom then left
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Jason Turnbull
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RE: [WSG] slightly OT web page analyser service
Robert Moser wrote: Something like this could be used to demonstrate the advantages of using CSS vs table layout. The only problem I can see is images referenced in the CSS are not taken into account Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] [CSS] IE6 header issue.
Nick Lo wrote:
http://www.amcs.org.au
the header text in IE6 which should appear
as white as it does in IE 5.5 down. I
Hi Nick
Try this 'Holly' hack, named after Holly Bergevin
/* Hide from IE5-mac \*/
* html div#header {
height:1%
}
/* End hide from IE5-mac */
All IE versions (PC and Mac) see the style after the * html
As this problem doesn't affect IE mac the comment hack is used.
For some reason applying a height to your header div fixes this problem
in IE, and IE will ignore height declared.
Hi list am a newbie here, invited from the CSS Foundations, I though I
was on too many lists until I came across this one, great too been
invited and am enjoying the friendly and informative discussions.
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Jason Turnbull
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