-nice grids and very quick download
time.
I had
one questioin about the use of the tables.
Could
you explain how this helps? We use a table to render the main content. However, the real
content will be displayed first because it spans over 2 lines
2 rows of the table).
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"I'd much rather use a limited palette PNG via CSS than cross my
fingers and hope that Flash's JPEG algorithm doesn't destroy my image"
Agreed the jpg comppressor in flash is brutal on lower and med quality but
why not use the png in flash?
Obviously this wouldnt work i
'And I agree Sam, having movement like that behind text is one of the
worst
things you can do.'
I think that was meant as an example.
If this trick is used in a more ambiant way it could be really useful.
Maybe just have some image substitution for opera until a solution is found.
n i decide to change something after im 30
pages into a site.
I guess part of my question is when do you know the design is there from a
wsg point of view?
Is it when you know the client will go wow that looks nice?
maybe this is o.t. and too subjective a topic
- up late
Hello list,
I picked up last months edition of computer arts,
theres an article about creating liquid css layouts.
dissapointing really, didnt got into detail.
Also there was a review of Dreamweaver 8.
CSS tools beefed up with a new css previewer. Looks good
anybody used it yet?
-kvnmcwebn
no-repeat; border-bottom: 0px;
}
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Web &
Screen
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Just Wondering-
Is the tag still widly used among list members. Should
we put as many of the images we can in the css as backgrounds etc.
Right now i put most sitewide images in the css and the page by page content
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dont know if this is o.t. but check out
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'That declaration *resets* the first one and you end up with anchors that
are
block elements, but *not* floats. That would be fine with most of the
browsers, but feeding IE with a height declaration makes it *expand* the
anchors full width (unless they are "floats").'
Hello,
that explans why the
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Subject: Re: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie
kvnmcwebn wrote:
> Hello Thierry,
> Thanks for the solution but maybe theres something in the struture of
> my html that dosnt work with that method. Check it if you have a
> minute. Both pages
over text in ie
kvnmcwebn wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Whats the best way to make the bellow css buttons hot for the entire
> height in ie? Right now there just hot over the text. I tried adding
> a fixed pixel height to the a: rule but that didnt work so well.
> I've seen this so
ought i'd post the question.
Thanks a million
-kvnmcwebn
#navigation {
margin: 0 auto;
border: 0;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
}
#drNav {
margin: 0;
border: 0;
padding: 0;
list-style: none;
}
#drNav li {
float: left;
color: #ff;
background: #99;
font-family: Verd
I used a 3 iframe layout on a site which i did before i was aware of web
standards.
There was a problem with a scoll bar showing up where it wasnt supposed to
in ie but otherthan that it worked all right. I havnt used them since then.
here is the url.
www.strykelacrosse.com
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doh! sorry i should have realized that wasnt intentional.
that did the trick.-thanks a mill
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Subject: Re: [WSG] achieve 95% height with empt
I think html, body {height:100;} could help.
Thanks fricca, but no joy.
-Kevin
> body { height: 100%; }
>
> This does the trick nicely in ie but firefox seems oblivious to the
> height declaration in the body rule. Is there something else i can do
> for ff?
Hello,
I
"This doesn't work, because it has no idea what 95% of nothing is.
you need to specify the parent element to be 100%. in this case,"
body { height: 100%; }
This does the trick nicely in ie but firefox seems oblivious to the
height declaration in the body rule. Is there s
wow..i had no idea...
I had assumed that any height or width declaration
would be 100% of the browser window by default..
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I
how can i get this div to scale to 95% of
the window height without filling
it with (invisible) content.
div.logo {
background: url(../LOGO.gif)
bottom right no-repeat;
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Recently i worked on a project that involved visual studio and the whole
asp.net thing. I was reading on the maxdesign site that they only use asp by
special request as it is not a "rapid development solution".
I guess my question is this-is cold fusion the proper way to build dynamimc
sites wi
Thanks, that looks clean Ben,
but i couldnt get it to work-to much for me to handle.
was this example
BusinessName
Address
Text
shorthand for this??
<%# DataBinder.Eval(Container,
"DataItem.business_name") %>' runat="server"
Font-Bold="True">
Address
Text
what about the 'text=' bit?
I trie
'Ouch
That is some messy code.'
The code is very messy, i had originally built the site carefully with divs
and was down to one validation error when i handed it over to the
programmer. He recreated my design with tables and handed it back with
hundreds of validation errors. He had looked at
hello,
Im trying to style some dynamicly loaded text within a table cell, shouldnt
be a big deal right. By default the text keeps reverting back to times and i
cant find out why. The font style's in the linked body and td rules just
are'nt applying to it. The only tag thats working for me that all
'this article by Lloyd Dalton helpful
http://www.daltonlp.com/daltonlp.cgi?item_type=1&item_id=217'
thanks, thats very clean.
What do you think of the comment/example from stylo at the bottom of this
page?
http://www.alistapart.com/discuss/pngopacity/#c4812
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Is the
png transparency tut on a list apart still the most up to date
method?
thanks
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how about northern ireland?
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cant go wrong with dreamweaver mx 2004.
great style sheet integration.
pc version ships with top style lite and home site i think.
costs around 500 hundred quid.
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second time, that is okay!"
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I dowloaded it an my virus software picked up a trojan horse right away.
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What if the tab index is set in the swf?
do we still have this problem?
> A small heads-up to alert those (myself included) using the flash satay
> method http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ of an annoying
> variation of an old bug in firefox:
>
> "The flash satay method has become a w
>> I'd also like if mac users tested it on safari and ie5/mac.
In the 0s9 version of ie5mac the top buttons have are slightly offset from
the background image. maybe only a pixel or two, so when you roll over they
jump a wee bit. not much though.
regarding the balance between type readability and aesthetics in general and
with this site.
I think that large blocks of text should be comfortable to read for everyone
maybe at the expense of aesthetics, but in this case its only small amounts
of type that can be read quickly and wont cause disc
very nice-
i found a couple minor breaks in ie5 mac "0s9"
if you care about this i will post screen shots online.
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I think more browsers would have the swf plugin installed than the quicktime
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I would use flash and provide alteratives that launches a real media
file/player and a widows meadia file/player.
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have
to live with it.
just needed some place to rant about this.
Just curious-Does anyone here do asp and if so would using the ala custom
corners method for a basic wrapper/template be very difficult to convert
over to asp?
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners/
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Hello,
Is there an equivelant to the underscore hack for safari out there?
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Typical DHTML menus are HTML+CSS created and controlled by JS.
Suckerfish dropdowns is HTML+CSS "created" by HTML and controlled
by CSS.
You get the same thing, but without need for JS support.
> Kvnmcwebn wrote:
>> Unless you thin
od. frustrating.
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I guess theres pros and cons to both methods, Im leaning towards a dhtml
menu that supports ns and ie 4+. but the links are in an external file,
ugghh, I dont think it would degrade well but i suppose it woulnd have to
with its browser support.
I know what kornel is emphasizing is important as wel
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Hello,
Do spiders crawl links in external javascript files, like the ones found in
some dhtml menus?
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also i tried this
Send
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Hi,
It does needs an action so Ive redone it like this:
This probably wont work and anyway it wrecks the positioning again.
How can i use an input type = "submit" with a background image?
thanks
-kevin
> I think what Patrick is trying to say is you should us a "submit" button to
> add some
hi guys,
Im now using the actual form element with some extra classes to get the
positioning right. Defining the all around padding and margins worked for
ff. Ended up using the underscore hack for ie though, still a pixel or two
off but im going to live with it-just want to get this darn think
hello,
I have added a "go" image for the submit button of a search field, its
aligned"absmiddle".
This dosnt align properly in compliant browsers like ff and safari but its
fine in ie6.
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/OTI/newhome.htm
Should I just use a table in this case?
thanks heres the code.
S
hello.
I was looking over the list navigation article at
http://www.complexspiral.com/events/archive/2003/seybold/cssnav.html
WidgetCo Home
what is the id="home" used for in this href?
theres no css rule for it in the styles for that page?
hello,
What ie windows 6 bug creates relics like the ones at the bottom of the
boxes in the central column of this page?
http://mcmonagle.biz/OTI/INDEX3.HTM
The relics dissapear after scrolling the page over them. I dont think its
the peekaboo bug because the
boxes have a fixed width.
I built t
Thanks mike,
that does the trick.
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I didnt see an email for mike)
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if your concerned about my obsolete browser--
the layout breaks in ie5 mac.
Looks nice in mozilla though.
check this one out, youd have to modify it to see the whole year
http://veerle.duoh.com/
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how are you going to do this? im rebooting as well and I have no clue,
replying to this one of list would probably be better
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Heres a good example of a hybrid site that uses flash for presentation and
css for content as someone had requested earlier.
http://www.bensaunders.com/blog_archives.php
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One example that uses the satay method and i think some of the other things
that were talking about here is.
www.disney.com.
I think there is also one in the css vault.
If you do a search for flash
there your will find it.
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hi andrey,
Dont design for broadband anyway.
Outside of Dublin, Cork and a
few other cities our only options here are SLOW
DIAL UP connections or overpriced isdn lines.
Also i would more or less make the majority of
your content visible at 800 x 600 screen resolution.
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swfs?
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How does the "webs sites that suck" guy compare to Jacob Neilson?
-sort of the same rhetoric eh?
To me the web is a functional and creative/expressive medium.
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The modular interface on top is kind of cool. To me it feels like the whole
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Where can i learn more about quirks mode?
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safe enough?
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I have always used a manual skip intro button on intro flash animations.
Maybe flashkit.com would be a better source for finding an auto skip method
method.
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0s 9 comments -for what there worth,
in ie5.2 mac-
messy overlaps w/radio buttons and text. positioning of google search button
isnt right. maybe the backslash hack would do the trick if you feel inclined
to support this browser.
looks good in mozilla mac os 9
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Is there an advantage over linking them all in the html doc, or is it just
personal preference?
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Is it ever helpful to link one style sheet from another using @ import?
I didnt know this worked until i did it by accident the other day.
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Ive designed an html email template with tables images etc.
Is there a way to provide an alternative non-html email content for those
who dont have html email capabilities.
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Nice clean design,
Add some line height to the text, maybe 14px or 15px.
In ie5mac the horizontal nav bar text dosnt have any left padding.
Looks good on mozilla mac. I agree with the previous comment about
the contrast of the links.
-kvnmcwebn
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:05:05 +0200, Pi
I think you need to specify the tabindex inside the flash movie, but im not
sure how to do it properly.
I found this at flash kit.
_root.main.all_pages.contact.form.tNom.tabIndex = 0;
so tabindex is just an actionscript property.
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sorry for my ignorance what is the tab order?
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Hi Tee,
I saw the imageless example to, but it dosn't work in ie5 mac.
Even though some people don't develop for this browser anymore i still use
it somethimes.
Also the roundbox im working on has a drop shadow on either side.
thank you
-Kevin
> Hi Kevin, I found this nifty corners the other d
Hi everyone,
I got this cool roundbox code from http://www.redmelon.net/tstme/4corners
and am trying to adapt it for use in a more complex wrapper with a masthead,
body and footer...But im havin a proble with one of the side drop shadows.
check out the page at
http://mcmonagle.biz/SHADOW/
a
hi everyone,
Im having a problem with type getting croped-
The bottom few pixels of some ascenders - like on g - are being chopped off.
This is happening on ie5mac and netscape 6mac, havnt tested it on the pc
yet. I'm using these attributes for my paragraph text.
---
p { width: 245px; text-alig
wow, at least that seems like a reason to make sure that you include a close
window button in the pop up window.
> David,
>
> I use Firefox, set to open new pages in new tabs rather than new
> windows. I've had the disconcerting experience of going to a site that
> opens a child window with speci
Even on click pop up windows can be blocked by some strick pop up blockers.
Does this concern anyone, or are these cases rare?
Theres a guy in the office that has pop up blocking software with strict
settings. In fact it dosnt permit the typical on click script to launch a
window without a tick b
Dear freinds and colleagues,
How much css -in the head of the html doc-can be used for html email layouts
such as newsletters and the like? I assume that to much if any would be
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thats a bit over my head but maybe do a google search for internet mapping
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>> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:29:50 +0100, Kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> --this list is my only hope---
>>>
>>> I've been
thanks for the help and feedback,
Nils and Micheal you have both inadvertantly solved my problem.
I was obliviouse to the fact that firefox wont enclose floats with stated
dimensions, now it makes sense why it dosnt.
But i have to come clean- The height of the content container dosnt even
need to
-for what its worth-
regarding a link from the light reading list sent earlier.
this method for rounding corners without images, which is great-- dosn't
work at all in ie5mac, this isn't mentioned on the page.
Nifty Corners: rounded corners without images:
http://pro.html.it/esempio/nifty
--this list is my only hope---
I've been rebuilding the html of this page over and over and cant find why
the container div dosnt resize{height} to accomodate all the content in
firefox.
Below is a link to the css and page.
http://mcmonagle.biz/TESTSITE/
please help if you have time
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Theres probably a recommended way for creating a drop shadow on your wrapper
divs and i would like to know it.
Are there any good links for tutorials on this topic?
Ive done a drop shadow on an absoulutly positioned layout using divs inside
the wrapper div with negative positioning values. eg.
ahh a site wide style sheet and then individual page style sheets-thats very
helpful- im glad i asked. Also i like the idea of not spending time on a
half arsed style sheet for 4.0th generation browsers, just give them the
content eh.
thanks guys
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Thanks-it makes sense-
It would be smart to break large style sheets down into managable chunks.
I see a lot of high traffic sites that only use the @import method that
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Would someone explain the how and why of using/importing two style sheets
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{}
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Im building a css layout that will be launched in a pop up window on click.
Its a template that will be updated by office staff using dreamweaver.
Anyway im experiencing some cross browser gliches with the layout that i
cant solve on my own.
So far Ive tested in
ie 5.mac
ie 6 win
firefox
MAC IE 5 SCRENN SHOT
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