Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread Nick Cowie
Tee asked > So which emulators (simulators) are correct? Which one of the 30+ mobile web browsers are you trying to emulate? There are many different browsers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microbrowser#Popular_mobile_browsers and even different versions of the same browser that render pages dif

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread Michael MD
As John said, phone browsers vary as much (actually, more) than their desktop counterparts. much more actually ... On the phone, there are a few different environments I'd test in: 1. Safari (WebKit is the primary browser on Nokia S60 devices, as well as the iPhone of course. There are some

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread Kit Grose
So which emulators (simulators) are correct? As John said, phone browsers vary as much (actually, more) than their desktop counterparts. On the phone, there are a few different environments I'd test in: 1. Safari (WebKit is the primary browser on Nokia S60 devices, as well as the iPhone of

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread John Faulds
So which emulators (simulators) are correct? They probably all are but just as Opera renders differently from IE6 on a desktop, Opera Mini (or Mobile) renders differently from other mobile browsers. In fact, there's more difference among mobile browsers than there is desktop browsers and m

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Aug 5, 2007, at 12:45 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Hi, You could try the cellphone emulator at: http://mtld.mobi/emulator.php for an idea on rendition on cellphones. Stuart, Do you know how accurate the renditionis for this emulator? And compare with Opera Mini and other simulators.

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, You could try the cellphone emulator at: http://mtld.mobi/emulator.php for an idea on rendition on cellphones. On Sun, August 5, 2007 4:01 am, Tee G. Peng wrote: > > > I never see a website in a handheld device (my cellphone allows me to > brows the internet but I am unwilling to test it a

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-04 Thread John Faulds
The obvious different is that there are two "Thiess Kents" logo, one big, one small, the small one overlapping the "Engineers & Constructors" Actually, that was an oversight on my part. It's fixed now. Thanks! You can also get an idea of what your site will looked like on handhelds using O

RE: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Boyd
f Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 1:01 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] designing for handheld On Aug 4, 2007, at 6:42 PM, John Faulds wrote: > The only site I've done with a handheld stylesheet is: http:// > www.thiesskentz.com.au/ > &g

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-04 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Aug 4, 2007, at 6:42 PM, John Faulds wrote: The only site I've done with a handheld stylesheet is: http:// www.thiesskentz.com.au/ As far as testing goes, not sure how reliable DW's previews would be considering how bad their design view is. Other testing options include: http://www.o

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-04 Thread John Faulds
The only site I've done with a handheld stylesheet is: http://www.thiesskentz.com.au/ As far as testing goes, not sure how reliable DW's previews would be considering how bad their design view is. Other testing options include: http://www.operamini.com/demo/ http://www.operamini.com/beta/s

[WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-04 Thread Tee G. Peng
Hi, a project I'd been working, client asks if I can port the layout for handheld devices. Current layout is pixel width with every pixel carefully culculaated in different sections/columns, so there is no way I can simply adapt the style sheet. At this stage, it's simply an inquiry from cl