Re: [WSG] Interview markup?
Justin French said: Sure, the W3 spec suggests DLs to be used for conversations and other non-DL purposes, and we've seen some great examples out there, but the reality is that (last time I researched), DL's are still announced by screen readers as a definition list of N items, which would *really* confuse me in the context of an interview being read to me by a screen reader. Then you'll also know that screen readers say the word equals between a dt and its dd(s) - Somthing that would make a lot of sense in the examples Russ gave... What's your favourie colour - 'equals' - Joe: My favourite colour is not blue. The deciding point (for me) is totally the context of the interview. If it was a formal interview that was the only focus of the page, which would also include an introduction of the interviewee at the top - the dtQ/dt ddA/dd approach would make the most sense. If, on the other hand, the interview was in a blog entry or similar, I would use the dt to announce each speaker. The mere fact that a (semi) heated debate can arrise around a single semantic issue is a great indication that everyone involved is doing their best to contribute to the 'semantic web'. Andrew. http://leftjustified.net/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Interview markup?
On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 14:53:46 +1000, Michael Nelson wrote: I mean, a definition list is really for definitions No, I don't agree. The W3C docs site two example uses: - a standard term and definition usage, and - marking up dialogues. see http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html#h-10.3 Clearly, the second of these is *not* a definition, and is somewhat close to an interview. A Definition List, despite its poor name, is useful for linking series of two elements. A1-A2 B1-B2 C1-C2 (yes, also D1-D2, D3) I think its perfect for an interview type layout Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet The leading a href=http://elysiansystems.com/;Brisbane Search Engine Optimisation/a firm Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Interview markup?
Sage Olson wrote: What is the most semantic way to markup an interview? I believe it must be cite/cite and for bigger phrases, you can useblockquote title= /blockquote Correct me someone if I'm wrong. -- Lennart Fylling Aalesund Norway ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Interview markup?
Oops, sorry I wasn't more specific I meant a large interview that takes up an entire article, something like this: http://www.macthemes.net/articles/insider/000189.php (Note: I'm not a staff member or anything of MacThemes.) They've used bold tags to indicate the interviewer's questions, and regular text to indicate the interviewee's answer. However, I'd like a more semantic way of doing it, if there is one (I'm not sure if definition lists would be overkill, but everybody seems to be using them for just about everything these days). -Sage On Sep 4, 2004, at 1:37 PM, Lennart Fylling wrote: Sage Olson wrote: What is the most semantic way to markup an interview? I believe it must be cite/cite and for bigger phrases, you can useblockquote title= /blockquote Correct me someone if I'm wrong. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Interview markup?
I'd go for definition lists, overkill or not. dl dtQ/dt ddA/dd /dl Failing that, the question could be in headings h1interview/h1 h2Q1/h2 p.../p h2Q2/h2 p.../p Patrick Sage Olson wrote: Oops, sorry I wasn't more specific I meant a large interview that takes up an entire article, something like this: http://www.macthemes.net/articles/insider/000189.php (Note: I'm not a staff member or anything of MacThemes.) They've used bold tags to indicate the interviewer's questions, and regular text to indicate the interviewee's answer. However, I'd like a more semantic way of doing it, if there is one (I'm not sure if definition lists would be overkill, but everybody seems to be using them for just about everything these days). -Sage On Sep 4, 2004, at 1:37 PM, Lennart Fylling wrote: Sage Olson wrote: What is the most semantic way to markup an interview? I believe it must be cite/cite and for bigger phrases, you can useblockquote title= /blockquote Correct me someone if I'm wrong. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- _ redux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Interview markup?
Heading tags are not appropriate nor semantically correct. cite is used for quoting a citation from a book, article or other piece of work referenced in an article. This is more adeptly used in reference articles. dl is the most appropriate method as it not only visually separates the question from the answer, but it also indicates that the text in the definition actually answers or defines the question or term in the definition type. I hope this helps. Lee Roberts http://www.roserockdesign.com http://www.applepiecart.com -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.262 / Virus Database: 264.7.7 - Release Date: 9/3/2004 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Interview markup?
The WSG ten question interviews are marked up as Definition lists: http://webstandardsgroup.org/features/ More on definition lists here: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/definition/ Russ What is the most semantic way to markup an interview? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Interview markup?
What is the most semantic way to markup an interview? I've been thinking about this a bit. If I did want to find the _most semantic_ way to markup an interview (I can't imagine thinking about it if we hadn't been discussing it though ;-), why wouldn't a paragraph with a meaningful class be the best solution (such as the speaker or whether it's a question or answer)? I mean, a definition list is really for definitions, and headings are really meant for, well, headings. Given that there is no element in XHTML specifically for interview questions and answers, a paragraph is the most applicable element that is still semantically (meaningfully) correct - we just want to give it a bit more meaning with some well-chosen classes. For example, a paragraph could simply be given a class corresponding to the person speaking (class=interviewee or class=DarrinHinch) or even two classes to be more meaningful (class=interviewer statement or class=interviewer question (aside: i've seen this in XML but not sure if two values for a class is actually correct in XHTML?)) Anyway, that being said, not sure that it matters too much :-) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
