Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Wow the list sure is active during weekdays! Sorry just got around checking my list mail. I am not behind a firewall at all and did not use any programs such as firewall. If the site is showing/working for you guys then I guess the problem is with my computer. I will not be so worried then and will get my com fixed! Thanks for all who commented on this topic! With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/09/04 08:46:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE You aren't by chance running any privacy software, such as the feature included with Zone Alarm's new firewall, are you? I had an issue with a Dell laptop at work (XP Pro) with the exact same script...turned out to be the firewall privacy feature restricting it. Drove me nuts trying to figure it out, cursing M$ of course. MD On Mar 8, 2004, at 14:21, Jaime Wong wrote: > > Tried setting IE privacy to low and it still didn't work :/ > > With Regards > Jaime Wong > ~~ > SODesires Design Team > http://www.sodesires.com > ~~
Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
You aren't by chance running any privacy software, such as the feature included with Zone Alarm's new firewall, are you? I had an issue with a Dell laptop at work (XP Pro) with the exact same script...turned out to be the firewall privacy feature restricting it. Drove me nuts trying to figure it out, cursing M$ of course. MD On Mar 8, 2004, at 14:21, Jaime Wong wrote: Tried setting IE privacy to low and it still didn't work :/ With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~
Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Bear in mind it's not the Mac that's the problem, but the browsers. Safari is excellent in supporting CSS IMHO. I find if I design for Safari, most if not all other browsers work pretty much first time. If you try to design a site so it works in a browser that has shaky support for CSS then you are asking for headaches. It strikes me as odd that people are using web standards and still producing sites that work in one browser but not others (that's a general comment, not a dig at you, BTW!) It's a nice looking site, though and FWIW most Mac users I know have abandoned IE and Netscape for Safari so feel free to add a Safari logo to yours and consider it more Mac friendly than IE friendly without even trying ;-) On 8 Mar 2004, at 19:36, Jaime Wong wrote: Yup my site is anti MAc at the moment. Would get to that nightmare part after everything is finally working right with no sudden bug like this style switcher. I really dread fixing it for MAC... last alternative is to use absolute positioning I suppose as someone mentioned in this list before that Mac IE does not work well with floats. Was provided few Mac Css solution sites by some nice people here to look at but still confuse. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Yup my site is anti MAc at the moment. Would get to that nightmare part after everything is finally working right with no sudden bug like this style switcher. I really dread fixing it for MAC... last alternative is to use absolute positioning I suppose as someone mentioned in this list before that Mac IE does not work well with floats. Was provided few Mac Css solution sites by some nice people here to look at but still confuse. With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/09/04 03:15:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE Layout breaks in IE 5.2 for Mac OS x and doesn't view at all in Netscape 7 on the same platform. HTH JB On 8 Mar 2004, at 18:08, Jaime Wong wrote: > Can someone with IE kindly go to www.sodesires.com to have a look at > the site and try to change the style and see if it remembers the style > when you refresh the page or visit other links from the menu? So sorry > for the trouble. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * .
Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Oo never tried Safari yet but it works for mozillla, opera, and used to work in IE! "difference in styles is quite subtle?" Yea couldn't decide on which I prefer so put both up! Your site on the text size works for me. I am thinking if I accidentally change something in the html which I didn't realise but very unlikely because if I did, it wouldn't apply for entire site! As for the _javascript_, I would never touch it because if I do I always ended up killing it so I would always leave it to the JS experts to fine tune for me :P Tried setting IE privacy to low and it still didn't work :/ With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/09/04 02:51:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE Works in Safari 1.2 on a Mac FWIW (though the difference in styles is quite subtle? - I usually make text bright pink while I'm testing just so I know it's working ;-) Ignore my earlier message re _javascript_ file as it's obviously in the right place. On 8 Mar 2004, at 18:08, Jaime Wong wrote: > Hi Patrick > > I have emptied my cache and make sure that IE security lvl is at > medium. > > Can someone with IE kindly go to www.sodesires.com to have a look at > the site and try to change the style and see if it remembers the style > when you refresh the page or visit other links from the menu? So sorry > for the trouble. > > If it works for you then something is wrong with my IE. But what I > can't understand is why cookies for IE works when I preview in > Dreamweaver and not when it is live? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * .
Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Layout breaks in IE 5.2 for Mac OS x and doesn't view at all in Netscape 7 on the same platform. HTH JB On 8 Mar 2004, at 18:08, Jaime Wong wrote: Can someone with IE kindly go to www.sodesires.com to have a look at the site and try to change the style and see if it remembers the style when you refresh the page or visit other links from the menu? So sorry for the trouble. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
The same method wouldn't work when I was testing my site locally, but would work when I uploaded to a server (reverse of you) - so it might be something to do with security in either your IE or your PC. Try setting them to lowest level for a few minutes and see what happens. On 8 Mar 2004, at 18:02, Jaime Wong wrote: The problem is that IE used to work and it stopped working suddenly and I do not know why. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Works in Safari 1.2 on a Mac FWIW (though the difference in styles is quite subtle? - I usually make text bright pink while I'm testing just so I know it's working ;-) Ignore my earlier message re javascript file as it's obviously in the right place. On 8 Mar 2004, at 18:08, Jaime Wong wrote: Hi Patrick I have emptied my cache and make sure that IE security lvl is at medium. Can someone with IE kindly go to www.sodesires.com to have a look at the site and try to change the style and see if it remembers the style when you refresh the page or visit other links from the menu? So sorry for the trouble. If it works for you then something is wrong with my IE. But what I can't understand is why cookies for IE works when I preview in Dreamweaver and not when it is live? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Jaime I use the same method at www.brighton.ac.uk/adc-ltsn/new - enter the site and use the style sheet switcher there. Does it work for you? Are you using an external javascript file? Check the javascript is in the right place and that you have uploaded the javascript to the server (sounds obvious but I forgot once!). I also had problems and traced them to my use of templates - if you are using templates then view the source of one of your pages and make sure the html is finding the javascript okay (I had too many ../../ I think). Check your cookies in the prefs and make sure you are receiving them okay. With cookies, is IE only accepting cookies of pages you navigate to? Enter the URL of your page directly into the browser rather than following a link if that's what you are doing (unlikely I know). On 8 Mar 2004, at 15:07, Jaime Wong wrote: I am using the style switcher at http://www.alistapart com/articles/alternate/ on my site and all of a sudden IE seems to have a problem with it (used to work and no changes has been done with it). It will not remember the selected style and upon every reload, it will switch back to the default style. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Hi Patrick I have emptied my cache and make sure that IE security lvl is at medium. Can someone with IE kindly go to www.sodesires.com to have a look at the site and try to change the style and see if it remembers the style when you refresh the page or visit other links from the menu? So sorry for the trouble. If it works for you then something is wrong with my IE. But what I can't understand is why cookies for IE works when I preview in Dreamweaver and not when it is live? With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/09/04 00:53:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE Could it be that your Temporary Internet Files cache is full ? Try emptying it...maybe it's not writing out the cookie properly because IE has exceeded its allowed cache limit... (and then forgets to clear it, or at least warn the user) Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk > -Original Message- > From: Jaime Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 08 March 2004 15:08 > To: WSG - CSS List > Subject: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE > > > > Hi I am not sure if it is appropriate to seek help for some _javascript_ > issues with styleswitcher here but I hope someone will be able to help > because I have no idea what went wrong all of a sudden. > > I am using the style switcher at http://www.alistapart > com/articles/alternate/ on my site and all of a sudden IE > seems to have a > problem with it (used to work and no changes has been done > with it). It will > not remember the selected style and upon every reload, it > will switch back > to the default style. > > But when working with dreamweaver, and by using the preview > option, the > style registers in IE. It only doesn't work when the site goes live. > > All other browsers are working fine. > > This is what I have in > > > > simple" href="" /> > > and in the body.. > > > > ../images/global/styles/style01_glass.gif" > alt="Switch to Glass > Style" width="22" height="21" /> > > The script for switcher from above: > > > > > ../images/global/styles/style02_simple.gif" > alt="Switch to Simple > Style" width="20" height="21" /> > > The script for switcher from above: > > > > The _javascript_ is what I downloaded from http://www.alistapart > com/articles/alternate/ > > > > > With Regards > Jaime Wong > ~~ > SODesires Design Team > http://www.sodesires.com > ~~ > > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * > > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Hi Anders I am using the JS from that site where it can be downloaded. So That script should be inside the file. The problem is that IE used to work and it stopped working suddenly and I do not know why. With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/09/04 00:32:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE Hi Jaime As it says on http://www.alistapart.com/articles/alternate/ you have to create a cookie, or maybe a session. The function to create the cookie and to the store the chosen stylesheet is showed on the site mention above Regards Anders Ebdrup www.smartpage.dk - Original Message - From: "Jaime Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WSG - CSS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE > > Hi I am not sure if it is appropriate to seek help for some _javascript_ > issues with styleswitcher here but I hope someone will be able to help > because I have no idea what went wrong all of a sudden. > > I am using the style switcher at http://www.alistapart > com/articles/alternate/ on my site and all of a sudden IE seems to have a > problem with it (used to work and no changes has been done with it). It will > not remember the selected style and upon every reload, it will switch back > to the default style. > > But when working with dreamweaver, and by using the preview option, the > style registers in IE. It only doesn't work when the site goes live. > > All other browsers are working fine. > > This is what I have in > > > > simple" href="" /> > > and in the body.. > > ../images/global/styles/style01_glass.gif" alt="Switch to Glass > Style" width="22" height="21" /> > > The script for switcher from above: > > > ../images/global/styles/style02_simple.gif" alt="Switch to Simple > Style" width="20" height="21" /> > > The script for switcher from above: > > > > The _javascript_ is what I downloaded from http://www.alistapart > com/articles/alternate/ > > > > > With Regards > Jaime Wong > ~~ > SODesires Design Team > http://www.sodesires.com > ~~ > > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * > > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Alternatively...is IE set to such a high security level that it's not
accepting cookies at all, or not accepting cookies of sites without a
P3P certificate ? Worth checking as well, while you're at it...
<http://www.google.com/search?q=IE+P3P+cookies>
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk
> -Original Message-
> From: Jaime Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 08 March 2004 15:08
> To: WSG - CSS List
> Subject: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
>
>
>
> Hi I am not sure if it is appropriate to seek help for some javascript
> issues with styleswitcher here but I hope someone will be able to help
> because I have no idea what went wrong all of a sudden.
>
> I am using the style switcher at http://www.alistapart
> com/articles/alternate/ on my site and all of a sudden IE
> seems to have a
> problem with it (used to work and no changes has been done
> with it). It will
> not remember the selected style and upon every reload, it
> will switch back
> to the default style.
>
> But when working with dreamweaver, and by using the preview
> option, the
> style registers in IE. It only doesn't work when the site goes live.
>
> All other browsers are working fine.
>
> This is what I have in
>
>
> simple" href="../scripts/css/style_simple/simpleStyle.css" />
>
> and in the body..
>
> onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('
> , 1);return false;" onmouseover="MM_swapImage('styles','','.
> /images/global/styles/tt_select.gif',1)"
> onmouseout="MM_swapImgRestore()
> > alt="Switch to Glass
> Style" width="22" height="21" />
>
> The script for switcher from above:
> onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('', 1);return false;"
>
> onclick="setActiveStyleSheet(
> simple', 1);return false;" onmouseover="MM_swapImage('styles','','.
> /images/global/styles/tt_select.gif',1)"
> onmouseout="MM_swapImgRestore()
> > alt="Switch to Simple
> Style" width="20" height="21" />
>
> The script for switcher from above:
> onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('simple', 1);return false;"
>
>
> The javascript is what I downloaded from http://www.alistapart
> com/articles/alternate/
>
>
>
>
> With Regards
> Jaime Wong
> ~~
> SODesires Design Team
> http://www.sodesires.com
> ~~
>
>
> *
> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
> *
>
>
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RE: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Could it be that your Temporary Internet Files cache is full ?
Try emptying it...maybe it's not writing out the cookie
properly because IE has exceeded its allowed cache limit...
(and then forgets to clear it, or at least warn the user)
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk
> -Original Message-
> From: Jaime Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 08 March 2004 15:08
> To: WSG - CSS List
> Subject: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
>
>
>
> Hi I am not sure if it is appropriate to seek help for some javascript
> issues with styleswitcher here but I hope someone will be able to help
> because I have no idea what went wrong all of a sudden.
>
> I am using the style switcher at http://www.alistapart
> com/articles/alternate/ on my site and all of a sudden IE
> seems to have a
> problem with it (used to work and no changes has been done
> with it). It will
> not remember the selected style and upon every reload, it
> will switch back
> to the default style.
>
> But when working with dreamweaver, and by using the preview
> option, the
> style registers in IE. It only doesn't work when the site goes live.
>
> All other browsers are working fine.
>
> This is what I have in
>
>
> simple" href="../scripts/css/style_simple/simpleStyle.css" />
>
> and in the body..
>
> onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('
> , 1);return false;" onmouseover="MM_swapImage('styles','','.
> /images/global/styles/tt_select.gif',1)"
> onmouseout="MM_swapImgRestore()
> > alt="Switch to Glass
> Style" width="22" height="21" />
>
> The script for switcher from above:
> onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('', 1);return false;"
>
> onclick="setActiveStyleSheet(
> simple', 1);return false;" onmouseover="MM_swapImage('styles','','.
> /images/global/styles/tt_select.gif',1)"
> onmouseout="MM_swapImgRestore()
> > alt="Switch to Simple
> Style" width="20" height="21" />
>
> The script for switcher from above:
> onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('simple', 1);return false;"
>
>
> The javascript is what I downloaded from http://www.alistapart
> com/articles/alternate/
>
>
>
>
> With Regards
> Jaime Wong
> ~~
> SODesires Design Team
> http://www.sodesires.com
> ~~
>
>
> *
> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
> *
>
>
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Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Hi Jaime
As it says on http://www.alistapart.com/articles/alternate/ you have to
create a cookie, or maybe a session. The function to create the cookie and
to the store the chosen stylesheet is showed on the site mention above
Regards
Anders Ebdrup
www.smartpage.dk
- Original Message -
From: "Jaime Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WSG - CSS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:07 PM
Subject: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE
>
> Hi I am not sure if it is appropriate to seek help for some javascript
> issues with styleswitcher here but I hope someone will be able to help
> because I have no idea what went wrong all of a sudden.
>
> I am using the style switcher at http://www.alistapart
> com/articles/alternate/ on my site and all of a sudden IE seems to have a
> problem with it (used to work and no changes has been done with it). It
will
> not remember the selected style and upon every reload, it will switch back
> to the default style.
>
> But when working with dreamweaver, and by using the preview option, the
> style registers in IE. It only doesn't work when the site goes live.
>
> All other browsers are working fine.
>
> This is what I have in
>
>
> simple" href="../scripts/css/style_simple/simpleStyle.css" />
>
> and in the body..
>
>
>
> The script for switcher from above:
> onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('', 1);return false;"
>
>
>
> The script for switcher from above:
> onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('simple', 1);return false;"
>
>
> The javascript is what I downloaded from http://www.alistapart
> com/articles/alternate/
>
>
>
>
> With Regards
> Jaime Wong
> ~~
> SODesires Design Team
> http://www.sodesires.com
> ~~
>
>
> *
> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
> *
>
>
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[WSG] Style Switcher and IE
Hi I am not sure if it is appropriate to seek help for some javascript
issues with styleswitcher here but I hope someone will be able to help
because I have no idea what went wrong all of a sudden.
I am using the style switcher at http://www.alistapart
com/articles/alternate/ on my site and all of a sudden IE seems to have a
problem with it (used to work and no changes has been done with it). It will
not remember the selected style and upon every reload, it will switch back
to the default style.
But when working with dreamweaver, and by using the preview option, the
style registers in IE. It only doesn't work when the site goes live.
All other browsers are working fine.
This is what I have in
and in the body..
The script for switcher from above:
onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('', 1);return false;"
The script for switcher from above:
onclick="setActiveStyleSheet('simple', 1);return false;"
The javascript is what I downloaded from http://www.alistapart
com/articles/alternate/
With Regards
Jaime Wong
~~
SODesires Design Team
http://www.sodesires.com
~~
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