RE: [WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

2004-05-10 Thread theGrafixGuy
A CSS question - I have some centered text formatted via a class in div
id= and I need it at the bottom of the div but still HORIZONTALLY
centered - how?

Thanks for the help in advance

Brian

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RE: [WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

2004-05-10 Thread Chris Blown
vertical-align : bottom;

On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 15:54, theGrafixGuy wrote:
 A CSS question - I have some centered text formatted via a class in div
 id= and I need it at the bottom of the div but still HORIZONTALLY
 centered - how?
 
 Thanks for the help in advance
 
 Brian
 
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Re: [WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

2004-05-10 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
Maybe it's the lack of sleep, but the last I recall that is pretty much 
useless on divs.  Great for tables, but just doesn't like to play well 
on those divs.

MD

On May 10, 2004, at 02:21, Chris Blown wrote:

vertical-align : bottom;

On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 15:54, theGrafixGuy wrote:
A CSS question - I have some centered text formatted via a class in 
div
id= and I need it at the bottom of the div but still HORIZONTALLY
centered - how?

Thanks for the help in advance

Brian
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RE: [WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

2004-05-10 Thread theGrafixGuy
Yes, I tried that initially and no go - hence the stupid question that is
turning out to not be so stupid after all :-)

Right now I got it faked using a few br / but I don't wanna do that as it
just feel to go against the clean code I am trying to create here.

 
Brian Grimmer
 
theGrafixGuy
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925-226-4085 (fax)

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Subject: Re: [WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

Maybe it's the lack of sleep, but the last I recall that is pretty much 
useless on divs.  Great for tables, but just doesn't like to play well 
on those divs.

MD

On May 10, 2004, at 02:21, Chris Blown wrote:

 vertical-align : bottom;

 On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 15:54, theGrafixGuy wrote:
 A CSS question - I have some centered text formatted via a class in 
 div
 id= and I need it at the bottom of the div but still HORIZONTALLY
 centered - how?

 Thanks for the help in advance

 Brian

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RE: [WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

2004-05-10 Thread tony
I have answered this on the CSS Forum.
Just to add a little more, vertical-align works on the inline box or line-height
 and positions the text within that line, not within the container as a whole.

If bottom worked correctly that would have been a good option, but for your
example just using margin-top will do what you need.

Tony
http://www.csscreator.com
http://www.appcreator.com



Quoting theGrafixGuy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yes, I tried that initially and no go - hence the stupid question that is
 turning out to not be so stupid after all :-)

 Right now I got it faked using a few br / but I don't wanna do that as it
 just feel to go against the clean code I am trying to create here.


 Brian Grimmer

 theGrafixGuy
 http://www.thegrafixguy.com
 503-887-4943
 925-226-4085 (fax)




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Re: [WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

2004-05-09 Thread mario
I respectfully disagree.

Based on the latest browser statistics 92% of all users have JavaScript
turned on. In addition, JavaScript enabled dropdown menus are still a
viable method of creating navigation systems. There are certainly a number
of older browsers that do not support the latest enhancements to Style
Sheets, which incorporate the dropdown menu effect.

MC

 I'd stay away from it.  The main reason being the use of Javascript in
 there, effectively killing it for a lot of MS IE users who disable JS.
 I personally wouldn't accept it not working in such a situation.



 On May 9, 2004, at 03:56, Neerav wrote:

 What do WSG members think of www.csscreator.com/menu/multimenu.php ?
 has anyone used it in their sites? Im thinking of implenting it for a
 client and replacing the existing ~30kb DHTML vertical menu, I believe
  it was designed by a WSG member.

 According to the author Browser Support is:

 Works with: IE 5, IE 5.5, IE 6, NN 7.1, Mozilla 1.3 Opera 7.01, Opera
 7.22, Phoenix 0.5, Firebird 0.7 on Windows, Camino 0.7 on Mac

 Fails in: NN4, Opera 6.05 on Windows. Safari 1.0, IE5.2 on Mac

 Im happy enough with that compatibility as theres a full text sitemap
 for people for whom the menu doesnt display properly.

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Re: [WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

2004-05-09 Thread scott parsons
That depends whether the menu is essential for navigation or not. If it 
is just an added extra, but there are still other ways to get around I 
would still feel free to use it!

Michael Donnermeyer wrote:

I'd stay away from it.  The main reason being the use of Javascript in 
there, effectively killing it for a lot of MS IE users who disable 
JS.  I personally wouldn't accept it not working in such a situation.



On May 9, 2004, at 03:56, Neerav wrote:

What do WSG members think of www.csscreator.com/menu/multimenu.php ? 
has anyone used it in their sites? Im thinking of implenting it for a 
client and replacing the existing ~30kb DHTML vertical menu, I 
believe it was designed by a WSG member.

According to the author Browser Support is:

Works with: IE 5, IE 5.5, IE 6, NN 7.1, Mozilla 1.3 Opera 7.01, Opera 
7.22, Phoenix 0.5, Firebird 0.7 on Windows, Camino 0.7 on Mac

Fails in: NN4, Opera 6.05 on Windows. Safari 1.0, IE5.2 on Mac

Im happy enough with that compatibility as theres a full text sitemap 
for people for whom the menu doesnt display properly.

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Re: [WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

2004-05-09 Thread Hugh Todd
Neerav,

Safari 1 and IE 5 account for most Mac users at this point, I would 
think. You would want to make sure that the appearance of the menu 
degrades gracefully, if you decide to go this way.

Fails in: NN4, Opera 6.05 on Windows. Safari 1.0, IE5.2 on Mac

Im happy enough with that compatibility as theres a full text sitemap 
for people for whom the menu doesnt display properly.
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Re: [WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

2004-05-09 Thread tony
Hi All,
My first post to this list.

A couple of points regarding CSSCreator MultiMenu which may have been
overlooked.
Firstly JavaScript is only needed by IE for that menu, any of the other
supported browsers will function fine without it.

I like the menu because of the very small JavaScript file and would be
interested to see any other similar menus that function without JavaScript.

If IE with javascript disabled is a problem it would be fairly easy to give it
an open bulleted list or formated however you want.
The steps would be something along these lines:
Firstly load the CSS as normal for all browsers.
Then use the Holly Hack or something similar to give IE only a menu that is open
and available without JavaScript.
Lastly use JavaScript for IE with JavaScript to close up the menu and prepare it
for action.

This would of course complicate the menu and moves away from the simple menu
that it is now.

It is wise to provide an alternative way of navigating a site when using any
menu.

Hope that helps.

Tony.

http://www.csscreator.com
http://www.appcreator.com



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[WSG] csscreator.com multimenu

2004-05-09 Thread Neerav
What do WSG members think of www.csscreator.com/menu/multimenu.php ? has 
anyone used it in their sites? Im thinking of implenting it for a client 
and replacing the existing ~30kb DHTML vertical menu, I believe it was 
designed by a WSG member.

According to the author Browser Support is:
Works with: IE 5, IE 5.5, IE 6, NN 7.1, Mozilla 1.3 Opera 7.01, Opera 
7.22, Phoenix 0.5, Firebird 0.7 on Windows, Camino 0.7 on Mac

Fails in: NN4, Opera 6.05 on Windows. Safari 1.0, IE5.2 on Mac
Im happy enough with that compatibility as theres a full text sitemap 
for people for whom the menu doesnt display properly.

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http://www.bhatt.id.au
Web Development  IT consultancy
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