I'm following behind the curve on this one as it seems people have put
this to rest. However, I really do not want to be grouped into a
category of people who believe in standards above all else. I am a
print designer first and foremost.
My response, below, was really more about shock than
My response, below, was really more about shock than anything else. I
couldn't believe that somebody would propose to take the visual design
out of things. If that were the case, I would probably stop building
websites tommorrow. In reality, it would need to be much higher than
7% to get me to
Alan,
What articles are you referring to?
Andrei Herasimchuk writes some excellent posts against this kind of
attitude at his site, Design By Fire (http://www.designbyfire.com/).
See for instance the now famous Design Matters
(http://www.designbyfire.com/59.html) or Gurus v. Bloggers,
Jeremy,
Can I copy your statement, paste it in Illustrator, make it prettty bold, and
post it here at work on the bulletin board? Please?!
Too many creatives here (at where I work) don't seem to understand this
concept...
thanks,
Zulema
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What articles are you referring to?
Well there's quite a few but here's one where the basic idea is right but I
find it just a tad idealistic:-
http://www.westciv.com/style_master/house/good_oil/not_paper/
Alan
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Can I copy your statement, paste it in Illustrator, make it
prettty bold, and
post it here at work on the bulletin board? Please?!
You could, but then you'd just show that you haven't understood
the basic premise behind his statement...as you're effectively
trying to force a certain visual
sure, go ahead.
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Jeremy Flint
www.jeremyflint.com
!!blue wrote:
Jeremy,
Can I copy your statement, paste it in Illustrator, make it prettty bold, and
post it here at work on the bulletin board? Please?!
Too many creatives here (at where I work) don't seem to understand this
concept...
Actually, I think it was Jeff Veen who mentioned something along those
lines at SXSW. Kind of stuck with me.
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Jeremy Flint
www.jeremyflint.com
!!blue wrote:
Jeremy,
Can I copy your statement, paste it in Illustrator, make it prettty bold, and
post it here at work on the bulletin board?
Alan
That article was written in 1999 as an intervention against the printed
page paradigm and to get desinegers to transition to CSS.
While John Allsopp does have some fairly strident views on web design*
which make for good discussions, based on the criterion you set out in
your first post,
Yes, but are there any really hard statistics about what the public is
doing. We know roughly 7% don't use or diable javascript. But what
about disabling styles?
On 12 May 2004, at 16:13, Jeremy Flint wrote:
On the web, you really have NO control over your site once it is
public. Users have
On 12/05/2004, at 11:03 PM, Alan Milnes wrote:
I have seen some articles on the web that say we shouldn't care about
how our web sites look as long as they use valid mark up language and
separate content from presentation.
Personally I want to design web sites that:-
1) Look good in
Yes, but are there any really hard statistics about what the
public is
doing. We know roughly 7% don't use or diable javascript. But what
about disabling styles?
rant type=unfocussed rambling
Why is that relevant? Heck, it's almost like we're going back to the
old how many % of users
the meaning behind my statement was more to the fact that there are a
lot of different options for people to browse the web now. its not like
5 years ago when all people were using were computers with browsers.
now people are using cell phones, palm pilots, pocket pcs, etc. there
are screen
It seems to me that too many people confuse Design with artwork or
colours, pictures the pretty stuff.But design goes a lot further
than that. Its to do with DOES IT DO THE JOB IT'S FOR?. A designer has
to take account of the medium hes designing for.
A designer for a magazine has to
I have been following this thread and this is a wonderful answer.
Nancy Johnson
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