RE: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9: Thanks Ben
Great. The smoke has cleared. Thanks Ben !! -Original Message- From: Ben Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2 July 2004 11:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9 > I have just put the test page on a web server. The URL is: > http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/overview.jsp To find out what was going with your list, I used Pixy's excellent "List Computed Styles" favelet (http://pixy.cz/blog/favelets/) Changing the default "font-size" to "display", then "visible" showed no styles affecting the visibility of the list. But check the "color" and you'll see the is inheriting the #fff of your a:hover It's all smoke and mirrors. The list never leaves the page, just camouflaged. White font color against white background. Easy fix: change the to You might also rethink colouring your a:hover white. - ben * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9
> I have just put the test page on a web server. The URL is: > http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/overview.jsp To find out what was going with your list, I used Pixy's excellent "List Computed Styles" favelet (http://pixy.cz/blog/favelets/) Changing the default "font-size" to "display", then "visible" showed no styles affecting the visibility of the list. But check the "color" and you'll see the is inheriting the #fff of your a:hover It's all smoke and mirrors. The list never leaves the page, just camouflaged. White font color against white background. Easy fix: change the to You might also rethink colouring your a:hover white. - ben * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9
My stupid, uncaffeinated self just wrote: 'id' is only to be used once on each page, whereas 'class' may be used repeatedly (or only once). Despite proof-reading it twice, I missed a major blunder : I was referring to each specific 'id', such as "nav". Therefore the sentence should have read: Each 'id' is only to be used once on each page, whereas each 'class' may be used repeatedly (or only once). Ugh. I'm going for more coffee * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9
CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh wrote: I have just put the test page on a web server. The URL is: http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/overview.jsp As indicated by both Mordechai and Ben, you should really validate your code before asking for help. It is an easy, automated way of pointing out potential bug sources In this case, you have given two elements the id of "nav". This does not comply with the W3C specs. 'id' is only to be used once on each page, whereas 'class' may be used repeatedly (or only once). The problem with your initial testing having been done in IE is that IE incorrectly allows multiple IDs. Try Firefox 0.9 or another compliant browser as your main testing browser and refer back to others (such as IE) for bug testing I suggest that you follow these links and correct all errors (not too many, actually) to see if that fixes your problem : http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/overview.jsp http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2&warning=2&uri=http%3A//www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/overview.jsp Oh, and I also noticed that you use 'Ul' in your CSS code. Firefox (and I think, many other browsers) are case-sensitive. As such, 'Ul' is different to 'ul'. This may also cause you some trouble Hope that helps! Cheers, Lachlan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9
I have just put the test page on a web server. The URL is: http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/overview.jsp The stylesheets are: http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/_Stylesheets/conf04_presentation.css http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/_Stylesheets/Conf04-advanced.css http://www.rba.gov.au/BC_Test/_Stylesheets/conf04_media.css Thanks Bhuvnesh Chaudhry -Original Message- From: Ben Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 16:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9 Hi Bhuvnesh, > When I hover the mouse over an un-ordered list, the list simply > disappears in FireFox 0.9. Does anybody have a remedy ? Let's check we have all the available information on this one: You have an unstyled unordered list inside the of an otherwise empty, yet valid (x)HTML page - and when this page is rendered in Firefox 0.9 and the mouse pointer moved over the list, the list disappears? Is your page publicly accessible (and if so, can you provide a URL)? Regards, Ben * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9
Ben Bishop wrote: You have an unstyled unordered list inside the of an otherwise empty, yet valid (x)HTML page - and when this page is rendered in Firefox 0.9 and the mouse pointer moved over the list, the list disappears? That would be a pretty big bug even for Microsoft to let slip through. I think it's safe to assume some vital info is missing. BTW, Did you validate? If not, it's a good place to start before posting your question. ...can you provide a URL? What? And make it so we don't have to guess? Are you looking to spoil everyones the fun?
Re: [WSG] Disapearing list in Firefox 0.9
Hi Bhuvnesh, > When I hover the mouse over an un-ordered list, the list simply > disappears in FireFox 0.9. Does anybody have a remedy ? Let's check we have all the available information on this one: You have an unstyled unordered list inside the of an otherwise empty, yet valid (x)HTML page - and when this page is rendered in Firefox 0.9 and the mouse pointer moved over the list, the list disappears? Is your page publicly accessible (and if so, can you provide a URL)? Regards, Ben * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *