The final problem is when I try and validate the page. Everything validates,
except the JavaScript for the menus. Now, this JavaScript is taken directly
from the Son of Suckerfish so I was surprised to find that it was coming
Hi Seona,
Quick (but proper) fix for the JS validation, start with:
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 06:51:39 +0100 (BST), Viking Karwur
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need your information about web design price and web
design/dev document...
Viking,
I don't think you will find such off-topic information on a mailing
list devoted to Web Standards - certainly not from the
Hi
I am having problem with my horizontal list IE as 'Child A-D li' is showing
at the bottom of 'Daddy li'. It looks fine in Firefox and Opera 7. They are
all floated to the left in a straight line.
ul
liDaddy raquo;/li
ul
lia href=#Child A/anbsp; |/li
lia href=# Child
Hard to tell exactly without seeing full context (a link is better than
a code extract), but why not do this and avoid the nested list:
ul
liDaddy raquo;/li
li/li
lia href=#Child A/anbsp; |/li
lia href=# Child B/anbsp; |/li
lia href=# Child C/anbsp; |/li
lia href=# Child D/anbsp; |/li
/ul
Nick
Here is the demo link:
http://design.sodesires.com/kimberley/collections/set/index.html
IE 5-6 PC is not showing it the way I want :P
why not do this and avoid the nested list
If I do not use nested list, the document structure would be like:
* Daddy
* Child A
* Child B
* Child C
* Child
Would someone please explain why the WSG thinks Section 508 is what should
be used?
Thanks,
Lee Roberts
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Lee Roberts spoke the following wise words on 29/06/2004 11:43 PM EST:
Would someone please explain why the WSG thinks Section 508 is what should
be used?
Sure, if you explain what on earth you're talking about.
-- tim
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Hi Jaime,
To correctly nest one list within another, open the new list before
closing it's parent li
example:
ul
liParent
ul
liChild/li
/ul
/li
/ul
You might look through the list archives for James Ellis' posts
detailing display differences between browsers due to whitespace
Sure, if you explain what on earth you're talking about.
-- tim
508 is this,
http://www.contentquality.com/mynewtester/cynthia.exe?rptmode=-1runcr=1url1=http://www.t94xr.net.nz/
Conformance to web accessability standards produced by the W3C.
Basically those ponts there tell you wats required for
Hi,
You could also try linking to the js file.
C
On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 11:19 PM, Ben Bishop wrote:
The final problem is when I try and validate the page. Everything
validates,
except the JavaScript for the menus. Now, this JavaScript is taken
directly
from the Son of Suckerfish so I was
Thanks I'll look into it.
Best Wishes,
Jaime ...
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Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2004 10:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal List problem in IE
Hi Jaime,
To correctly nest
Opera 7 refuses to make one particular link clickable:
http://design.sodesires.com/kimberley/about/products/index.html
The navigation Finishing is not clickable in
Opera 7:
Timber Species | Fittings | Finishing
I guess that maybe the logo span is the culprit:
#logo
I fixed the problem :) I hope
For some reason, a float: right in Opera
makes it think that the height is truly 100% so it covers the link and make it
non-clickable.
I fixed it by changing float right to
margin left:
#logo {width: 130px; height: 61px; position:
relative;
Would someone please explain why the WSG thinks Section 508
is what should be used?
Don't know what you're talking about, but
http://www.google.com/search?q=section+508
gives:
http://www.section508.gov/
Might be what you're looking for.
--
Willemot Michaël
http://www.sotto.be
Well, seems we got the thread going at least.
Section 508 is a lame attempt to meet accessibility needs. If you look at
what's going on around the world - England, Italy, European Union, Australia
and other countries - you'll see it's lame.
Section 508 picked and chose which elements they
Hi,
Are these expanded rules mentioned available to the public?
C
On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 09:49 AM, Lee Roberts wrote:
Even on the Oklahoma Electronic and Information Technology
Accessibility
Task Force, which I'm a member, we took Section 508 as our base rules
and
advanced beyond it.
After combing the WSG archives, my Eric M on CSS books and google-at-large, I'm
stumped. Is there a reliable way to reproduce within a div what valign=bottom does for
table cells?
text-align: bottom adjusts an element inline with respect to the items adjacent to
it...
i've tried:
Sure, if you explain what on earth you're talking about.
-- tim
508 is this,
http://www.contentquality.com/mynewtester/cynthia.exe?rptmode=-1runcr=1url1=http://www.t94xr.net.nz/
Conformance to web accessability standards produced by the W3C.
Basically those ponts there tell you wats required for
Perhaps one of the biggest problems with accessibility is the lack of
affordable assistive technologies (AT)? I think W3 complaint code mixed with
some decent features should be all that is required on the developers end.
The government would be better off spending more time and resources on
I havn't ever used this, but i know there are ways to set items to
behave like tables.
You probably will want to set the div to behave like a table cell...
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/tables.html
check that out.
I am reading it now to see if it will help...
Sorry if it doesnt!
Scott Reston
Longdesc points to another file with the longer description. It is not to
be used as a place for a long sentence. Therefore this is incorrect: img
src=http://www.t94xr.net.nz/private/slingshot.jpg; alt= longdesc=An
image that shows that i have downloaded 2.4GB on 56k dialup in a month. /
I will agree that JAWS is an over-priced piece of software. IBM HomePage
Reader is much more reasonable. But, then again Lynx with voice would be
good as well.
Have you looked at the other assistive technologies available?
England and the other countries requiring accessible web sites state
I know this is OT.
But I have had it up to here (**motions towards my ceiling**) with
websites that dont even load in other browsers...
I just send www.ebooking.com.au a very vivid email about how their
website is TERRIBLY INACCESSIBLE...
Try and load it in any other browser than IE...
AFAIK
I thought the list might be interested in some research I recently did.
First of all, I was creating a web page size checker in Perl. This
fetches the page, then any associated images, and adds the size of
them. So far, so HTML 3.2.
But these days of course it has to fetch the associated CSS
John Horner spoke the following wise words on 30/06/2004 10:01 AM EST:
But these days of course it has to fetch the associated CSS files and
add them -- but wait, there's more, as they say, it should also fetch
any images called by the style sheet and add them to the total.
Which is when the
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Hi Scott,
After looking at this I was surprised that it isn't an easier than this -
I've only tested this on IE6 and Firefox 0.9
To get this effect I've used the fact that position relative creates a new
containing block for the
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, at 10:43 AM, Tim Lucas wrote:
I know that for Gecko based browsers background images defined in
stylesheets (inline or linked) are deferred from loading until they
are asked to display themselves. This also helps because many style
sheet rules containing images
Rant rave all you want Chris. I grow weary of lazy programmers that don't give me thought to overall design.
I got your back.
Shane Helm
Sonze
On Jun 29, 2004, at 5:53 PM, Chris Stratford wrote:
I know this is OT.
But I have had it up to here (**motions towards my ceiling**) with websites
The standards are available at these locations.
Missouri: http://www.dolir.state.mo.us/matp/ITAccessibilityStatute.htm
Illinois: http://www.illinois.gov/iwas/standards/iwasStandards.cfm
I hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Lee Roberts
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From: ckimedia [mailto:[EMAIL
I guess Im learning something about
design after all! I looked at that e-booking site and decided
it looks frankly .. old fashioned in web terms. Meaning its
looking S 2001 now. I have a friend in the games business, and I looked
at his site yesterday and it looked very 1990s to me.
In contrast, I've noticed that images called by css files (as div
backgrounds) *all* download in IE and Safari on Mac (not sure about
IEWin)
That's interesting.
My research found that only IE on Mac has this problem, that is, it
downloads and caches all the images referenced in a stylesheet,
John
Whenever I've been forced to test IE5 Mac I've found it to be
unreasonably slow - the rendering engine is a dud compared to other
browsers. I'm sure it was cutting edge 3-5 years ago but not now.
Safari is much faster and better but it tends to have a pretty fierce
cache (like Opera), as I
Hi,
Looking forward to the enhanced view. Thanks for the timely reply.
C
On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 07:32 PM, Lee Roberts wrote:
The standards are available at these locations.
Missouri: http://www.dolir.state.mo.us/matp/ITAccessibilityStatute.htm
Illinois:
I will be out of the office on Wednesday, 6-30-04, attending a planning meeting to
better serve you. I will return to the office on 7-1-04.
Thank you,
Lezli Cline
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You mention an ABC internal standard of less than 60kb filesize.
How does this work with dynamic pages?
There are relatively few dynamic pages on the ABC website, so it
doesn't often come up, but of course I'd expect things like search
results to be arranged using some sort of paging, with
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