Re: [WSG] Vignette and web standards = disaster?

2004-10-13 Thread Ian Fenn
Quoting Ben Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you read Doug's latest blog entry, you'd know he's most likely on a plane right now heading to New Zealand. I wouldn't hold your breath for an immediate reply. I wasn't - That's why I'm posting here. :-) As this is a tool/CMS/Vignette issue, you might

[WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Jackie Reid
Hi everyone im a bit confused here - trying to validate my css and i get this warning Line : 0 font-family: You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a last alternative what do they mean... i always do that and get the no errors or warnings reply... whats going on.. ? Jackie

RE: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Peter Firminger
Interesting, You may have flummoxed it with the double color reference background-color : #05695c; color : #000; font-family : Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size : 80%; color : #02486c; Try removing the black one (color : #000;) and see if it fixes it. P -Original

Re: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 13 Oct 2004, at 6:13 PM, Jackie Reid wrote: Hi everyone im a bit confused here - trying to validate my css and i get this warning Line : 0 font-family: You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a last alternative what do they mean... i always do that and get the no errors or warnings

Re: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 10/13/04 1:13 AM Jackie Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Line : 0 font-family: You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a last alternative what do they mean... i always do that and get the no errors or warnings reply... Do a sans-serif or serif as the last specified font.

Re: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Trovster
Congratulations! Valid CSS!This document validates as CSS! Is what I get when I validate the CSS directly, or through the site!! Dunno what's going on. I quickly checked and you've got a generic font on the 3 font-families. I'd just say it's the validator being stupid. On Wed, 13 Oct 2004

Re: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Neerav
Jackie http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=c2coff=1q=css+generic+font+familybtnG=Search lead to http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/font/font-family.html Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts

Re: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Lennart Fylling
Jackie Reid wrote: Hi everyone im a bit confused here - trying to validate my css and i get this warning Line : 0 font-family: You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a last alternative what do they mean... sans-serif, serif , monospace , cursive or Fantasy . You put the font

RE: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Bert
G'day Line : 0 font-family: You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a last alternative Look at the last rule in your CSS where you have Sans Serif instead of the generic sans-serif. Chances are that's what the validator was looking at (Line : 0 obviously doesn't tell us anything).

Re: [WSG] help with fixed positioning in IE

2004-10-13 Thread john
Thanks for the code tip, Grant. Works great (gotta do a bit of tweaking, but still works!). I put this xml line above the DOCTYPE: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? I assume that's right? Thanks again! ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content

[WSG] A few problems with IE

2004-10-13 Thread Kim Kruse
Hi, I know this is only partly related to web standards and I apologize for that. Here are my 3 questions: 1. Why won't IE pick up the .tabs hover style? 2. Is there a way to get IE to play along? Since I couldn't figure out how to get it to work I added a CC for IE as you can see here

[WSG] Short way to change background colors on CSS sheet?

2004-10-13 Thread Lyn Patterson
Hi all Am now working on a template for all pages of my site other than the main page. I want to change the background color of the #container on various pages. So far, I have come up with #container { margin: 0; background-color: #e0; background-image: url(xxx.gif); background-repeat:

Re: [WSG] Short way to change background colors on CSS sheet?

2004-10-13 Thread russ - maxdesign
Two things. You can shorten your three background declarations into one (depending on the browsers you are trying to target): background: #eee url(xxx.gif) repeat-y; And you can place a unique id in the body element and then use this id to change colours on individual pages without having to

RE: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Peter Firminger
Just a heads up, always look for No errors or warnings. You can get the congrats but still have warnings if you scroll down. Jackie's concern was a warning even though it was valid css. P Congratulations! Valid CSS!This document validates as CSS! Is what I get when I validate the CSS

RE: [WSG] A few problems with IE

2004-10-13 Thread Jason Turnbull
Kim Kruse wrote: 1. Why won't IE pick up the .tabs hover style? Change the style .tabs li:hover To .tabs li a:hover 3. On this http://www.mouseriders.dk/test/kontakt.php why is the background color flowing out of the fieldset (top) This happens in IE, as this page explains

Re: [WSG] help with fixed positioning in IE

2004-10-13 Thread john
After applying this CSS hack to one of my sites, my back to top link doesn't do anything at all in Win/IE6 (I have an id=top in the BODY tag). Then there's the fact that part of the scrollbar is hidden beneath the header...but I think that was already mentioned. Any suggestions on the back to

[WSG] Safari bug - calling CSS that is not there messes with p

2004-10-13 Thread J Rodgers
I have come across some oddness in Safari (1.2.3 (v125.9) ) that I am not sure is mentioned anywhere... If it is, my apologies. I first noticed it with my little blog type play site. I was calling three style sheets from a site I am working on. If I call one that is not there the margins get

[WSG] Re: Safari bug - calling CSS that is not there messes with p

2004-10-13 Thread J Rodgers
ARGH; http://pole.uwaterloo.ca/cpadev/engtest/bugs/callingcssthatisthere.html http://pole.uwaterloo.ca/cpadev/engtest/bugs/callingcssthatisnotthere.html - messed up On 10/13/04 12:12 PM, J Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pole/cpadev/engtest/bugs/callingcssthatisthere.html - should

[WSG] Safari bug - calling CSS that is not there messes with p

2004-10-13 Thread Kenneth Feldman
I have come across some oddness in Safari (1.2.3 (v125.9) ) that I am not sure is mentioned anywhere... If it is, my apologies. I first noticed it with my little blog type play site. I was calling three style sheets from a site I am working on. If I call one that is not there the margins

Re: [WSG] Safari bug - calling CSS that is not there messes with p

2004-10-13 Thread J Rodgers
Yes that is a great page... The fix was simply to point to a style sheet that existed. The link I had to a blank one was broken. IE 5 displays both pages the same, it is only Safari that puts in some odd margin's in the p. Jesse On 10/13/04 12:54 PM, Kenneth Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: [WSG] A few problems with IE

2004-10-13 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
If I remember correctly, you have to use a combination of javascript and css to do the trick. So in addition to your li:hover, try implementing this javascript: http://www.addictivemedia.com.au/clients/navigation.js I tried to put as many comments in as possible. If you have got any questions

Re: [WSG] A few problems with IE

2004-10-13 Thread Kenneth Feldman
If I remember correctly, you have to use a combination of javascript and css to do the trick. So in addition to your li:hover, try implementing this javascript: http://www.addictivemedia.com.au/clients/navigation.js I tried to put as many comments in as possible. If you have got any

Re: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Jackie Reid
Thank, thank, thank you everyone...it works now... i must have scoured through that code for hours yesterday... a severe case of not seeing the wood for the trees. All fixed with your help thanks again Jackie ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Short way to change background colors on CSS sheet?

2004-10-13 Thread Lyn Patterson
Russ Thanks - I see what you are getting at but not sure how to place the body id in the HTML. I removed the background color from the #container so it becomes generic and added #meetings#container {background-color: #ddd;} to the CSS . Then I added body id=meetings just under the body tag in

Re: [WSG] Short way to change background colors on CSS sheet?

2004-10-13 Thread Paul Connolley
On 14 Oct 2004, at 00:06, Lyn Patterson wrote: #meetings#container {background-color: #ddd;} to the CSS . You will find that adding a space between the two items #meetings #container will hit the spot. They are two distinctly separate items. Summarily, it means: an element named container within

[WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

2004-10-13 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi All I've got an odd case of an intranet page that generates a very wide report (table). This page is generally printed rather than being viewed on screen. The table is slowly growing width wise as more data is added - it is now so wide that even when printed in landscape the table gets cut off

Re: [WSG] Short way to change background colors on CSS sheet?

2004-10-13 Thread russ - maxdesign
Lyn, Regarding id's and body elements... Here is a quick (and very rough) demo page showing how an id within the body element to affect various presentational aspects on three individual pages (click on the page links to check out each page): http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/page-id/ The css

Re: [WSG] Vignette and web standards = disaster?

2004-10-13 Thread Ryan Christie
My experience with Vignette CMS has produced horribly non-standard code, regardless of the power behind the CMS itself. Vignette isn't popular because it does things right. Frankly, I just think it's popular because it costs an arm and leg to use, so hell -- it has to be good! right!? ;) Ian

Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

2004-10-13 Thread Neerav
Mark These ideas may already have been considered but here they are anyway... 1. set unneeded items on the page to display:none eg: menus taking up horizontal space 2. give the table an id and in the print css set that id as width: 100% Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT

Re: [WSG] Short way to change background colors on CSS sheet?

2004-10-13 Thread Lyn Patterson
Further to my last to Paul - or should I just remove the background color from the DIV CLASS in the CSS and just add a background -color to the DIV CLASS for the image on each page? Lyn ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread RMW Web Publishing
I to have been getting the same error even though I have been providing a generic alternative. After looking through my CSS over and over I noticed that I had 'mono' instead of 'monospace'. Once fixed the CSS validated without warnings. I then noticed that Dreamweaver MX 2004 (I only use

[WSG] Transparent Background on a list item

2004-10-13 Thread Jackie Reid
sorry to be a pest but.. :-( things just arent working out for me today ... (or yesterday for that matter) I am trying to position a nav list over a background image, therefore need the bg to be transparent. Works for me in theory but 2 things are happening: a) ie is displaying the list

Re: [WSG] Short way to change background colors on CSS sheet?

2004-10-13 Thread Lyn Patterson
Paul Thanks you - that is now working! Great ! I have another element - an image in a frame - that must have the same background color as the #container so I suppose I need to do the same thing for those. CSS .floatimgleft { float: left; text-align: center; width: 9em;

Re: [WSG] Transparent Background on a list item

2004-10-13 Thread Jackie Reid
Hugh.Why did that work? Why would the height of a div make something turn transparent? h. confusing that...doesnt seem logical somehow. (no point in just doing it if i dont understand is it!) jackie Hugh Todd wrote: On 14/10/2004, at 2:04 PM, Jackie Reid wrote: I have been fiddling

[WSG] Form option selected is posible?

2004-10-13 Thread Diego Diaz
Hi all list. I try validate option selected but the validator says: the name and VI delimiter can be omitted from an attribute specification only if SHORTTAG YES is specified This form is posible to validate ? Sorry the bad english. Greetings. - Diego

Re: [WSG] Transparent Background on a list item

2004-10-13 Thread Jackie Reid
that did it... i cant believe it... THANK YOU HUGH ... my new hero! unbelievable... didnt even dawn on me to do that and never would have i dont think. thanks again... jackie Hugh Todd wrote: On 14/10/2004, at 2:04 PM, Jackie Reid wrote: I have been fiddling around most of the morning and am

[WSG] Legal numbering with li

2004-10-13 Thread Amit Karmakar
People, any good pointers on legal numbering using li's in xhtml I am looking for 3 levels of nesting as in: 1.0 1.1 1.1.1 TIA Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] header alignment working in everything but safari

2004-10-13 Thread Hugh Todd
Ian, You seem to be up against a rendering issue that you can probably not solve with your current method. When I resize the browser window in Firefox your header appears to move 1 px away from the left edge of your centred column and then back again. So it looks like Safari, and then aligns

[WSG] header alignment working in everything but safari

2004-10-13 Thread Ian Main
Hi Group, I've spent too long trying to get my head around this. http://www.e-lusion.com/design/beachhouse/ http://www.e-lusion.com/design/beachhouse/screen.css Safari error http://e-lusion.com/design/beachhouse/13499.png I have placed a Faux Column image on the body which is centred. Than

[WSG] JAWS and image maps in mozilla

2004-10-13 Thread Andreas Boehmer
Although I personally don't care much for imagemaps I was forced to use one for this particular project I work on. To make it as accessible as possible, I made it a client-side map. I was a good boy and provided alt and title attributes for all of the areas. BUT: Jaws seems to have difficulties

Re: [WSG] Transparent Background on a list item

2004-10-13 Thread Hugh Todd
Jackie, The height didn't change the transparency. It revealed more of your #nav1's background image. Remember, a float (unless cleared) will happily extend beyond the borders of its container. Except in IE PC, but that is a bug. So if you want your #nav1's background to resize in proportion

Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

2004-10-13 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks Neerav I've got rid of everything I can and reduced the fonts as much as I dare and its still 300px too wide for a landscape A4. I've tried setting widths to auto, 100%, px - nothing makes a difference. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] JAWS and image maps in mozilla

2004-10-13 Thread Hill, Tim
I'm not sure many people are using JAWS in firefox? I was under the impression that most users were on IE because of the accessible interface? When I have tried to listen to the interface of firefox, it brings up a lot of graphics instead of text. But I'm not very good at it, so I'm probably in