Re: [WSG] Firefox screen-reader emulator

2004-12-08 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Do any of these, or any others for that matter, support aural style sheets? from that list, emacSpeak only, unless things have changed recently... Opera 7.60 for Windows has support for voice xml and some aural styles. The software: http://snapshot.opera.com Docs and tutorials:

Re: [WSG] DOM and Standard

2004-12-08 Thread James Denholm-Price
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:33:27 -0500, berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but I already found this link. What I was looking for was theory. I'd heartily recommend the O'Reilly JavaScript: The Definitive Reference by David Flanagan -- it has a good section on HTML4 events as well as DOM (Gecko)

[WSG] Vertical shadows div has no height in FF but does in IE

2004-12-08 Thread Steven Clark
I've been slowly chipping away at this site Site: http://www.blog.lindenlangdon.com CSS: http://www.blog.lindenlangdon.com/stylesheets/default.css http://www.blog.lindenlangdon.com/stylesheets/styles.css

[WSG] site check please - an illustrated novel

2004-12-08 Thread designer
Hi All, I would be grateful for any and all feedback on a redesign I've done for a site which presents an illustrated novel. Some of it is a weeny bit hybrid, but (a small amount of flash aside) it all validates as xhtml and presentational matter is down to an absolute minimum. I have not done

[WSG] FW: Text email newsletter standard

2004-12-08 Thread Patrick Lauke
Sorry to cross-post my reply, but: From: Lauke Patrick Sent: 08 December 2004 11:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Text email newsletter standard From: Mike Brown has anyone come across, or used, the following text email newsletter standard: http://www.headstar.com/ten/ Yes, stumbled

[WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Brett Walsh
Hey everyone. I keep forgetting and need some clarification on the use of alt and title and which is most appropriate. I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand Im meant to use alt for links and title for images. Or is it the other way around? Or both? Fairly simple

Re: [WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Daniel Kling
Am Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:06:52 +1100 schrieb Brett Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey everyone. I keep forgetting and need some clarification on the use of alt and title and which is most appropriate. I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand I'm meant to use alt for links and title for

RE: [WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Iain Gardiner
Title: Message Personally, I tend towards using title for links to give surfers an idea where the link is taking them. I use both on images. I use the web developer extension for Firefox on my own site at the moment for highlighting any links which I have neglected to add a title attribute

Re: [WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Lea de Groot
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:06:52 +1100, Brett Walsh wrote: I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand I'm meant to use alt for links and title for images. Or is it the other way around? Or both? The other way around - the alt attribute goes on the img tag, to provide some information when

RE: [WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Brett Walsh
ok I will jot that one down. That article at beras street was nice and helpful. I was getting confused as the validator was complaining about no alt on links for strict dtd. Thx all of you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lea de Groot

Re: [WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Chris Platts
On 8 Dec 2004, at 12:06, Brett Walsh wrote: I keep forgetting and need some clarification on the use of alt and title and which is most appropriate. I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand I'm meant to use alt for links and title for images. Or is it the other way around? Or both?

Re: [WSG] site check please - an illustrated novel

2004-12-08 Thread Tom Livingston
Hello, My only beef with this site is you seem to have *two* splash pages. One is bad enough... Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com designer wrote: Hi All, I would be grateful for any and all feedback on a redesign I've done for a site which presents an illustrated novel. Some

Re: [WSG] Screenreader for Mac OS X

2004-12-08 Thread Terrence Wood
No there isn't. But the next release of of OS X will have one built in: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/ Terrence Wood. Jorge Laranjo wrote: But i don't know of any screenreader for MAC OS X. Is there any? -- *** Are

Re: [WSG] site check please - an illustrated novel

2004-12-08 Thread Will Jensen
Bob, Purely from the aesthetics level. Drop the entire first page - or two - The very first one blinked on my screen for perhaps 3 seconds and was gone. The second was the spinning record. The main window - number three, is where I should land right off - no other pages between me and your main

[WSG] color: inherit;?

2004-12-08 Thread Lee Underwood
I know that if you declare the background-color, you also declare the color (and vice-versa). Is it o.k. to use color: inherit; for the color when you are declaring the background-color? If not, then what is a good way to do it? Thanks! **

Re: [WSG] color: inherit;?

2004-12-08 Thread Terrence Wood
AFAIK it's ok. You can also use transparent if you don't want a background color. Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-09 8:08 AM, Lee Underwood wrote: I know that if you declare the background-color, you also declare the color (and vice-versa). Is it o.k. to use color: inherit; for the color when you

[WSG] Wellington WSG meeting

2004-12-08 Thread Joseph Lindsay
This probably goes without saying, but I'll ask anyway just in case it's overlooked: Can someone who's going to the Wellington meeting tonight please blog/record happennings so that those of us that can't attend can find out what went on? Photos if appropriate (or incrimanating) would be good

[WSG] splash pages -[was site check please - an illustrated novel ]

2004-12-08 Thread designer
Thanks Will, but all those validation errors are because of using Flash - there is no way to use Flash 'properly' and get the thing to validate (all the workarounds have problems, as I understand it). Outrageous, but there ye go! :-) Thanks for your thoughts. Tom (and Will) - I will bear all

[WSG] Re: Standard for text email newsletters

2004-12-08 Thread Laura Carlson
I've been using the TEN format as a navigation aid for screenreaders in my Web Design Update Newsletter for over two and a half years now. All user feedback has been positive. Some comments from subscribers regarding what they like about the TEN format: - Attention to accessible-friendliness

Re: [WSG] Wellington WSG meeting

2004-12-08 Thread Darren Wood
Joseph Lindsay wrote: This probably goes without saying, but I'll ask anyway just in case it's overlooked: Can someone who's going to the Wellington meeting tonight please blog/record happennings so that those of us that can't attend can find out what went on? Photos if appropriate (or

Re: [WSG] Wellington WSG meeting

2004-12-08 Thread Terrence Wood
I'll put something on my site. It's meant to have a blog there already, but you know how it is a builder's house, a mechanic's car, a designers site ;-) So check in tomorrow at some stage. http://funkive.com Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-09 8:42 AM, Joseph Lindsay wrote: This probably goes

RE: [WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Andreas Boehmer
Derek Featherstone wrote: - What is critical and what is extra is determined by context. In general, the lower tech the approach, the more accessible it is. If it is in the content, everyone gets what they need, instead of having to rely on a tooltip which may or may

RE: [WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Lea de Groot
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:20:56 +1100, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: It's good practise to have the title attribute also on images (in addition to the ALT), as some browsers won't display the ALT Text as a tooltip. Does that validate? I didn't think title was a valid attribute for the

RE: [WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day It's good practise to have the title attribute also on images (in addition to the ALT), as some browsers won't display the ALT Text as a tooltip. Does that validate? I didn't think title was a valid attribute for the img tag? Should do: From