Re: [WSG] site check please - Rowing History

2005-04-28 Thread Hope Stewart
Thanks Thierry for your detailed reply! I've implemented all your suggestions except the IE5/mac dropdowns -- I haven't had time to look at the suggested link yet, but I will. Regards, Hope On 28/4/05 2:27 PM, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ope Stewart wrote: comments. The design

Re: [WSG] Web Standards in Estonia

2005-04-28 Thread Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: http://triin.net/2005/04/27/Web_Standards_in_Estonia (The page itself is in Estonian, but the referred article is for all of you, who for some strange reason don't speak the language, translated to English.) Hopefully the information will prove helpful for someone...

Re: [WSG] site check please - Rowing History

2005-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
congrats, very nice design :) 2 errors in home page http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.rowinghistory-aus.info/world-u23-championships/index.html cheers Daniel http://www.gizax.it Hope Stewart wrote: I've been working on a huge site for over a year and it still has a long way to go.

Re: [WSG] Voice family box model hack

2005-04-28 Thread Stevio
Yeah but what does each of the following lines actually do? height: 100%; voice-family: \}\; voice-family: inherit; height: auto; Also, I am not clear on which browsers will end up using 100% height and which will not break but not use 100%. That MSDN article is quite interesting.

Re: [WSG] Voice family box model hack

2005-04-28 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:43:59 +0100, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This in turn makes it easier to develop code specifically to fix IE problems. Why has that been such a well kept secret? I thought that was quite popular technique. IE has conditional comments for JScript as well and that's

[WSG] Urgent navigation problem

2005-04-28 Thread Mary Wright
Can someone help me with a site I'm working on at www.ragamuffinbridal.co.uk. The home page is fine in IE for PC, but in the other pages, the navigation style disappears. It's the same in all pages when looked at in other PC and Mac browsers. Everything was fine until I just updated the home

Betr.: [WSG] Urgent navigation problem

2005-04-28 Thread Gerard Copinga
Hi Mary, validate your stylesheet (CSS) and see that there is a problem with your announcement-style: .announcement { text-align: center; It isn't closed with a } , so eveything below may not work correctly including the styles for the menu. In Firefox the menu doesn't work on the homepage

Re: [WSG] Urgent navigation problem

2005-04-28 Thread Mary Wright
I've just removed the table from the home page to see if that would be a temporary solution but it didn't work. Now there's a new problem - if you look at www.ragamuffinbridal.co.uk/pages/resale.html, you'll see a table of dress details. Each cell should have a pink border, but suddenly

Re: [WSG] Urgent navigation problem

2005-04-28 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
Hi Mary, You have to float the list elements to create buttons. Try: #navlist li { float: left; list-style-type: none; } HTH Prabhath http://nidahas.com On 4/28/05, Mary Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone help me with a site I'm working on at www.ragamuffinbridal.co.uk. The

Re: Betr.: [WSG] Urgent navigation problem

2005-04-28 Thread Mary Wright
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you! I must have accidentally deleted it during a revision. Mary On 28 Apr 2005, at 10:42, Gerard Copinga wrote: Hi Mary, validate your stylesheet (CSS) and see that there is a problem with your announcement-style: .announcement { text-align: center; It

[WSG] Two separate CSS issues

2005-04-28 Thread Stevio
I am working on a 2 column layout with a header and footer, with the footer always pushed against the bottom of the page (or at the bottom of the content, if the page content is longer than the available space). Here is the page (ignore the colours - they are just for identifying divs!):

[WSG] site check please - Rowing History

2005-04-28 Thread Graham
The only thing I really don't like is that when you click a link the top menu disappears and the only way I can get it back is to click the Back button. (I'm using IE6) Otherwise a good looking site Graham Cook -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WSG] Web Standards in Estonia

2005-04-28 Thread nene
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:53:23 +0100, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I ask (sorry about my English and Estonian): * Proseminaritöö. * TÜ Haapsalu Kolled#382;: Infotehnoloogia osakond. * Juhendaja: Jaagup Kippar. * Haapsalu 2005. Is this a seminar paper at a

Re: [WSG] site check please - Rowing History

2005-04-28 Thread Hope Stewart
On 28/4/05 6:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 errors in home page http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.rowinghistory-aus.info/world-u23- championships/index.html Thanks for this. Just goes to show that I need to validate EACH time I make changes! Cheers Hope(less)

RE: [WSG] Urgent navigation problem

2005-04-28 Thread Peter Goddard
Hi Mary All looks ok to me, have you solved this one? Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Wright Sent: 28 April 2005 10:49 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Urgent navigation problem I've just removed the table

Re: [WSG] Two separate CSS issues

2005-04-28 Thread Stefan Lemmen
For the first problem try this: body, html { margin:0; padding:0; } Stefan Lemmen Holland On 4/28/05, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am working on a 2 column layout with a header and footer, with the footer always pushed against the bottom of the page (or at the bottom of the content, if

Re: [WSG] Voice family box model hack

2005-04-28 Thread Michael Wilson
Stevio wrote: Yeah but what does each of the following lines actually do? height: 100%; voice-family: \}\; voice-family: inherit; height: auto; Hi, height: 100%;: This line sets the height for all browsers with CSS support. voice-family: \}\; voice-family:inherit; Due to a CSS

Re: [WSG] site check please - Rowing History

2005-04-28 Thread Hope Stewart
On 28/4/05 8:46 PM, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing I really don't like is that when you click a link the top menu disappears and the only way I can get it back is to click the Back button. (I'm using IE6) If you click one of the links in the top green menu, it takes you to a

[WSG] Adjunct to Richard Czeiger's Sydney WSG presentation

2005-04-28 Thread Neerav
A good adjunct to Richard Czeiger's Sydney WSG presentation a few hours ago (which was quite good) is the article : Ten good practices for writing JavaScript in 2005 http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/articles/goodpractices.php -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Need a Sydney based web

[WSG] div not scaling to 100% of parent

2005-04-28 Thread Kvnmcwebn
hello, http://mcmonagle.biz/OTI/BOXTEST.HTM the above link shows an example of a css layout in progress with colored borders to show the boxes. Notice the pink box in the left column. I would like it to scale to 100% of so that it reaches the bottom(stopping at the blue spacer div.) Here is

Re: [WSG] Two separate CSS issues

2005-04-28 Thread Stevio
Hi Bob, Thanks for the suggestion but it didn't work! Stefan's suggestion did not work either. Any other ideas anyone? Anyone know why a floated div is hidden in IE6? Stephen - Original Message - From: designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005

Re: [WSG] Two separate CSS issues

2005-04-28 Thread Stefan Lemmen
Strange.. this normally does.. Maybe try redesigning this layout from the start beginning with body, html { margin:0; padding:0; } Then you should be able to find the bug I think.. Good luck On 4/28/05, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, Thanks for the suggestion but it didn't

Re: [WSG] Two separate CSS issues

2005-04-28 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Stevio wrote: Anyone know why a floated div is hidden in IE6? Try position:relative on #sidebar, that should fix it To set padding and margin to 0 value for all the elements, try * instead of #, like this: * {margin:0;padding:0} HTH, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com

Re: [WSG] Two separate CSS issues

2005-04-28 Thread Ingo Chao
Stevio schrieb: Hi Bob, Thanks for the suggestion but it didn't work! Stefan's suggestion did not work either. Any other ideas anyone? Anyone know why a floated div is hidden in IE6? Stephen apply the Holly hack to #maincontent for an explanation http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/rpfloat.html when you

Re: [WSG] Voice family box model hack

2005-04-28 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Michael Wilson wrote: If I have to use a box model hack (BMH), rather than a conditional comment, I prefer the following [01]: * html foo { /* Selector recognized by IE only */ height: 100%; /* Value for IE5.x/Win and IE6.x/Win QM */ hei\ght: auto; /* Value for IE6/Win */ } I

[WSG] Javascript - the last piece of the puzzle

2005-04-28 Thread russ - maxdesign
The Sydney Web Standards meeting went well tonight with about 33 people present. Richard Czeiger stepped in at the last minute to talk as John Allsopp was indisposed. It was one of Richards first ever presentations, and he handled himself exceptionally well under some heavy crossfire from Sydney

Re: [WSG] div not scaling to 100% of parent

2005-04-28 Thread Mike
Hi Kvnmcwebn, I beleive your problem is that your containing block (WrapperBody) does not have an explicit height set. If your element's containing block does not have an explicit height set, and you set your element's height to a percentage, then it is treated as 'auto'. You can see this by

Re: [WSG] Voice family box model hack

2005-04-28 Thread Michael Wilson
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Michael Wilson wrote: If I have to use a box model hack (BMH), rather than a conditional comment, I prefer the following [01]: * html foo { /* Selector recognized by IE only */ height: 100%; /* Value for IE5.x/Win and IE6.x/Win QM */ hei\ght: auto; /* Value for

Re: [WSG] div not scaling to 100% of parent

2005-04-28 Thread Kvnmcwebn
Thanks mike, that does the trick. -kvnmcwebn (Sorry if this is off topic for the list but I didnt see an email for mike) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

[WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread designer
Firstly, let me say that I have been doing standards only since last September, so am very much a novice. I have upgraded 5 or so sites to be XHTML/CSS etc, and got them to validate as STRICT, so I am happy that 'I can do it', as far as it goes. I have learnt quite a lot (in fact, it seems a

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Jan Brasna
body {text-align: center;} #container {text-align: left; margin: 0 auto;} -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

RE: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
Use: body { margin: 0; padding: 0; text-align: center; /* for IE */ } Then override the text align center on your container with: #container { margin: 0 auto; width: 750px; text-align: left; } HTH, -Nigel -Original

RE: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Hugues Brunelle
Hello Bob, This might help you for layout positionning : http://www.bluerobot.com/ http://glish.com/css/ Hugues Brunelle Concepteur graphique // ECHO tridimension 2139 rue Masson Montral QC H2H 1A8 1-(514)5211360 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Mike
Hey Everyone, I think this is correct. What happens is that if you don't set a width, it defaults to 'auto'. In that case you have a left margin, right margin, and width all with 'auto' values. This forces the left margin value to become 0 and the right margin value to be ignored. I think.

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Roger Johansson
On 28 apr 2005, at 22.04, designer wrote: Thing. The point is, this doesn't work in IE IE6 in standards mode does, actually. But you need to give the element you want to centre an explicit width. See Centring (centering) in this document: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200503/

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Chris Knowles
This works well... body { text-align: center; } #container { margin: 0 auto; text-align: left; } But so does this... #container { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 50%; width: 60em; margin-left: 0 0 0 -30em; } -- Chris Knowles

[WSG] The list border-left (borderLeft) example (Sydney meeting)

2005-04-28 Thread James Ellis
Hi all Those at last nights Sydney meeting would have seen Richard's excellent JS presentation (only slightly thwarted by a screen that decided when the next slide should be shown.) The section on using borders instead of pipes | in list navigation shows how CSS can be used to visually provide

[WSG] Multimedia Victoria (Australia) website

2005-04-28 Thread Luke Moulton
It's been a while since I've posted to the group, but I just couldn't help voicing my disappointment in regards to the new Multimedia Victoria (Australia) website http://www.mmv.vic.gov.au/ I can't believe a State Government site dedicated to the advancement of the ICT industry in Victoria could

Re: [WSG] The list border-left (borderLeft) example (Sydney meeting)

2005-04-28 Thread Jan Brasna
The section on using borders instead of pipes | in list navigation shows how CSS can be used to visually provide the same feedback as the pipe but leave the structure of the document untouched. Yes, I've learned this trick some time ago. My question last night was about this as an alternative:

Re: [WSG] Multimedia Victoria (Australia) website

2005-04-28 Thread Neerav
The root of the problem Luke is they're using a pretty poor CMS eg: the first few lines of each page are: !-- This line (a comment) is used to throw IE into quirks mode which allows the komodo admin menu to float. This comment MUST reside above the document type declaration! -- !DOCTYPE HTML

[WSG] A new web standards book has hit the shelves

2005-04-28 Thread russ - maxdesign
For those interested, a new web standards book has just hit the shelves: Web Standards Design Guide by Kevin Ruse KEY FEATURES: * Provides a comprehensive, easy-to-read guide to using the essential Web standards, including XML, CSS, Accessibility, xForms, and xLink * Explains where standards

Re: [WSG] site check please - Rowing History

2005-04-28 Thread David Laakso
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:29:27 -0400, Hope Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So, I'd be very interested hear your comments. http://www.rowinghistory-aus.info/world-u23-championships/index.html Quick look in XP_SP2 at 1280 in Opera8.0 of the above page only: Seems fine on this end, although I

Re: [WSG] site check please - Rowing History

2005-04-28 Thread David
Seems fine on this end, although I can't for the life of me figure out what the bw image is that appears to be a grasshopper? Haha - It's a grasshopper wearing a jail bird stripy outfit- haha.. Actually, looks like people rowing - like they're supposed to be in motion. ( I think) -David

[WSG] IE extra space; background not showing up; odd links

2005-04-28 Thread White Ash
Hello! I don't know why, but I'm having a time with my design in IE. Firefox and Netscape have no problem. The idea is that the content area would be flush top with the bottom of the background. There is a big space in IE. Also, in IE, I can't get the background to show on the aboutamy page.

[WSG] BIIIIIIIG white space in Firefox not IE6

2005-04-28 Thread Mike Kear
Can anyone see where Ive got this wrong please? In Firefox1.0, the content in the body aligns below the image in the left column. At first I thought it was a width issue Id made the content too wide for the size of the div, but thats not the case. No matter how wide I set the screen (and Ive

Re: [WSG] site check please - Rowing History

2005-04-28 Thread Hope Stewart
On 29/4/05 1:30 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems fine on this end, although I can't for the life of me figure out what the bw image is that appears to be a grasshopper? Haha - It's a grasshopper wearing a jail bird stripy outfit- haha.. Actually, looks like people rowing -