[WSG] Our Certified Web Accessibility Consultant (CWAC) training program

2005-11-16 Thread John S. Britsios
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[WSG] Announcement: Our Certified Web Accessibility Consultant (CWAC) training program

2005-11-16 Thread John S. Britsios
Dear co-members, I just wanted to bring to your consideration, that on the 18th of October 2005 we launched our Certified Web Accessibility Consultant (CWAC) training program, which is a brand new and one-of-a-kind resource for web-related professionals. Our program is guided by an

[WSG] To the admins

2005-11-16 Thread Mark Harris
With respect, I feel that the Britsios messages are inappropriate for this list. Perhaps you might advise Mr Britsios that his postings are unwelcome. Regards Mark Harris Technology Research and Consultancy Services Ltd ** The discussion

RE: [WSG] Accessibility: Default placeholders

2005-11-16 Thread Patrick Lauke
Geoff Deering Secondly, by this recommendation you are actually addressing the flip side of the problem I am trying to address. The case you are addressing here is 1) A recommendation of how to deal with styles that may conflict with a form element that is in an activated state. 2)

[WSG] Announcing the W3C Web APIs and Web Application Formats WGs

2005-11-16 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi all, as some of you may already know, the W3C has just announced the creation of its Rich Web Client Activity, with the addition of two new working groups that you may be interested in. The Web APIs WG (http://www.w3.org/2006/webapi/) will be working on standard APIs for use within

Re: [WSG] snug a border around diff sized pix

2005-11-16 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
I would use a selector to apply the border to the image itself, rather than the div. Joe Taylor http://sitesbyjoe.com csslist wrote: I have a div that shows phots dynamically that are different sizes and would like to throw a 1px border aound them, I can't seem to get them to hug the photo,

Re: [WSG] snug a border around diff sized pix

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:00:03 -0500, Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add a 1px border to either a or img tags within the DIV's #class. Just out of curiosity, why would a div not be the same size (or hugging) the image inside it if it has no styling of it's own? Box model issues? --

Re: [WSG] snug a border around diff sized pix

2005-11-16 Thread Bert Doorn
Tom Livingston wrote: Just out of curiosity, why would a div not be the same size (or hugging) the image inside it if it has no styling of it's own? Box model issues? I may be mistaken, but... A div is a block level element by default. If it has no styling of its own, its width should be

Re: [WSG] snug a border around diff sized pix

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:19:45 -0500, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A div is a block level element by default. If it has no styling of its own, its width should be 100% of its parent's inner width. If true, display:inline (plus positioning styles - on container or what have you) would

[WSG] Footer Clear?

2005-11-16 Thread Ben Logan
Hi folks I am having a few problems with the way my footer is sitting in Firefox: I am using some templates based on the glish 3 column fixed width template. HTML http://www.spotlessdesign.com/development/bpt/index4.html CSS http://www.spotlessdesign.com/development/bpt/css/style4.css I

Re: [WSG] Footer Clear?

2005-11-16 Thread Hopkins Programming
Take away the height restrictions on #homenewsleft and #homenewsright--Zachary On 11/16/05, Ben Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folksI am having a few problems with the way my footer is sitting in Firefox:I am using some templates based on the glish 3 column fixed width template.HTML

Re: [WSG] Footer Clear?

2005-11-16 Thread The Visual Process
It looks to me like the footer is in the wrong part of the html. Find it in the html... div id="footer"pBuilding Pressure Testing | Rybka | 10 Lindsey Street | London | EC1A 9HP /p/div And then cut and paste it above the very last div in the html, so the bottom of the code looks like this...

Re: [WSG] Footer Clear?

2005-11-16 Thread The Visual Process
Oh yes do what this guy suggests, I thought you wanted it across the whole length of the site. Sorry about that. Hopkins Programming wrote: Take away the height restrictions on #homenewsleft and #homenewsright --Zachary On 11/16/05, *Ben Logan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WSG] Footer Clear?

2005-11-16 Thread Ben Logan
Hi Zachary Thats perfect thanks! Ben From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hopkins Programming Sent: 16 November 2005 18:22 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Footer Clear? Take away the height restrictions on #homenewsleft and

RE: [WSG] Footer Clear?

2005-11-16 Thread Ben Logan
Thanks for your input Ryan Yeah as you noted below I wanted the footer only as big as the centered div not the full length of the page Thanks anyway! Ben From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Visual Process Sent: 16 November 2005 18:29 To:

Re: [WSG] snug a border around diff sized pix

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:39:23 -0500, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the safest move is to apply the border to the image. Agreed, just curious. Thanks for playing along. ;-) -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com Using Opera's

[WSG] Fluid problems

2005-11-16 Thread Adam Morris
I'm having BIG problems trying to get the content of this site to be held within the image 'containers' I've used. Help me, please?! I'm beginning to lose it. Adam http://www.janelehrer.co.uk/live5 ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Fluid problems

2005-11-16 Thread Seona Bellamy
On 17/11/05, Adam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having BIG problems trying to get the content of this site to be held within the image 'containers' I've used. Help me, please?! I'm beginning to lose it. Adam http://www.janelehrer.co.uk/live5 I've had a look, and the paragraph that is

Re: [WSG] Fluid problems

2005-11-16 Thread Christian Montoya
On 11/16/05, Adam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having BIG problems trying to get the content of this site to be held within the image 'containers' I've used. Help me, please?! I'm beginning to lose it. Adam Your content is still 100% wide. When you nudge it to the right, you need to

Re: [WSG] Fluid problems

2005-11-16 Thread The Visual Process
Why does your base.css file have html in it? Adam Morris wrote: I'm having BIG problems trying to get the content of this site to be held within the image 'containers' I've used. Help me, please?! I'm beginning to lose it. Adam http://www.janelehrer.co.uk/live5

RE: [WSG] Fluid problems

2005-11-16 Thread Paul Bennett
There's a message here: *Before* asking - VALIDATE your code! :) Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Visual Process Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:38 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Fluid problems Why

Re: [WSG] Fluid problems

2005-11-16 Thread Buddy Quaid
I noted that the contentRight div has a height of 500px on it. The first paragraph fits within that 500 and so its staying in...after the text exceeds to bottom of the right div, it spills out...so you need to work on that rightDiv I think. Buddy Paul Bennett wrote: There's a message here:

Re: [WSG] Fluid problems

2005-11-16 Thread Adam Morris
true! I want the height to stretch the height of the content... how??!!?? I've added the missing /p (thanks, Seona) and the page now validates. base.css? just a hang-over from another page. all the style info is in the head at the moment. On 16/11/05, Buddy Quaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

RE: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-16 Thread Focas, Grant
Title: Message Id say selecting text is a usability/accessibility issue. Grant From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:55 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

Re: [WSG] Fluid problems

2005-11-16 Thread Buddy Quaid
Short answer. You can't. The problem is you have your right div inside the div that holds the content with a float right. CSS Div boxes will ONLY be as high as the content is. Browsers dont follow height:100% at least not right now. So what you should do is take the rightcontent outof the

RE: [WSG] snug a border around diff sized pix

2005-11-16 Thread Paul Noone
Hey, we're all here to be entertained. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Livingston Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 7:22 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] snug a border around diff sized pix On Wed, 16 Nov 2005

RE: [WSG] Fluid problems

2005-11-16 Thread Paul Noone
I'm possibly missing something huge here but couldn't you save yourself massive amounts of pain by going back to a single DIV that has a 2px grey border on it? Drop your text in there. Then just absolutely position your guitar pic in another layer. I'm sure I've missed something. -Original

Re: [WSG] Accessibility: Default placeholders

2005-11-16 Thread Geoff Deering
Patrick Lauke wrote: Geoff Deering Secondly, by this recommendation you are actually addressing the flip side of the problem I am trying to address. The case you are addressing here is 1) A recommendation of how to deal with styles that may conflict with a form element that is in

[WSG] Good practice of CSS styled forms

2005-11-16 Thread GuruGorg.Network
I started to build a directory of webmaster goodies on my website. Could you recommend me sites with examples, presentations, tutorials of CSS styled forms. I hope it will be usefull for other members, too. Thanx in advance, Goran Mitic GuruGorg.Network - We build better websites web:

Re: [WSG] Good practice of CSS styled forms

2005-11-16 Thread adam reitsma
here's one of many good starting points:http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/On 11/17/05, GuruGorg.Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started to build a directory of webmaster goodies on my website.Could you recommend me sites with examples, presentations, tutorialsof CSS styled forms.I hope it

[WSG] Safari not loading website

2005-11-16 Thread Lakshmi_Satyanarayana
Hi! All I am the web production officer at Attorny General's . I have received feedback from Mac users using Safari to browse are unable to download attachments. The errors message that they get is Safari can't find the server, can't find the Domain name?. We are using relative links in

Re: [WSG] Good practice of CSS styled forms

2005-11-16 Thread adam reitsma
hmmm... sorry, that wasn't all that form-specific, was it?here's some of my links on css forms, and the like:http://www.aplus.co.yu/css/styling-form-fields/ http://www.quirksmode.org/css/forms.htmlhttp://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/03/24/

Re: [WSG] Accessibility: Default placeholders

2005-11-16 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Geoff Deering wrote: No, I don't feel we are. This recommendation does not address the problems raised by this specific issue, according to my understanding. So I would very much appreciate if you could explain in thorough technical detail and functionality how this works and how it

Re: [WSG] Safari not loading website

2005-11-16 Thread Jonathan O'Donnell
Hello Lakshmi I am using Mac OS X 10.3.9, so I thought that I would document the problem. I'm not a JavaScript/EcmaScript bunny, so I'm afraid I can't do more than that. Hopefully someone else on the list can point you to a fix. The problem is real. When you use

Re: [WSG] Good practice of CSS styled forms

2005-11-16 Thread GuruGorg.Network
Adam, thanx for links. Also I found simple and great presentation by Derek Featherstone, a presenter of WE05: http://simplyaccessible.org Goran Mitic GuruGorg.Network - We build better websites web: www.gurugorg.net rss: www.gurugorg.net/feed mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: gurugorg.net

Re: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-16 Thread Christian Montoya
99% of users have no idea what view-source is. If they try to select any text on the page, and they can't, they won't be happy. Is the section positioned? Does it have any divs overlapping? -- -- C Montoya rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ... montoya.rdpdesign.com

Re: [WSG] Accessibility: Default placeholders

2005-11-16 Thread Geoff Deering
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Geoff Deering wrote: No, I don't feel we are. This recommendation does not address the problems raised by this specific issue, according to my understanding. So I would very much appreciate if you could explain in thorough technical detail and functionality how

Re: [WSG] Safari not loading website

2005-11-16 Thread Nick Gleitzman
We are using relative links in Javascript to open the attachments. Could please anyone shed light on what might be causing this. Well, you've answered your own question! Use absolute paths in your links. (and... Lotus Notes?! Ouch...) N ___ Omnivision. Websight.

RE: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-16 Thread Paul Noone
Christian Montoya sagely expounded: 99% of users have no idea... Nuff said. ;) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting

Re: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-16 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Paul Noone wrote: Why do you want to select the text? Probably worth mentioning that this IE text-selection bug also breaks Macromedia Contribute (at least the Windows version) so areas of the page that should be client-editable aren't... -- Hassan Schroeder -

Re: [WSG] Safari not loading website

2005-11-16 Thread Christian Montoya
We are using relative links in Javascript to open the attachments. Could please anyone shed light on what might be causing this. Well, you've answered your own question! Use absolute paths in your links. (and... Lotus Notes?! Ouch...) so does this mean that you can't build the links

Re: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-16 Thread Dustin Diaz
This does in fact occur when absolutely positioned divs collide on top of each other. There aren't exactly workarounds...it just means that you either deal with it, or you redevelop your website with a bit more care, or just use floats (if they can suffice). espn.com is an infamous site that

Re: [WSG] Fluid problems

2005-11-16 Thread Adam Morris
I've DONE IT!!! I'VE DONE IT!! To create the right side of the content that stretches the length of the browser window, I used the contentright background image on the BODY instead of in it's own floated div. BINGO!! The top and bottom corners now sit over a beautifully repeated, 100% of the