Re: [WSG] site check

2006-02-18 Thread Joshua Street
On 2/18/06, Paul Sturgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/16/06, Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BIGGEST thing I can see wrong with this site is the image map. Obviously the link areas aren't regular shapes, so even if you were to use a UL (navigation list) with positioned LI

Re: [WSG] Overflow and inheritance problems with a 2-column layout

2006-02-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
John Latter wrote: You've just started? Crikey - I must have the IQ odf a banana then! :) (see? I can't even spell off!) No apparent IQ problems at your end ;-) (must be the keyboard's fault...) Call me a slow starter... :-) ...as I've been handling bits and bytes and code since before they

Re: [WSG] Overflow and inheritance problems with a 2-column layout

2006-02-18 Thread John Latter
Thanks Georg - not least for the idea of blaming my keyboard! It's only the code that is for Google, the content is for humans but I'm interested in such an unpopular are of evolution that getting the css/html code right is quite important (cos I need all the help I can get). I'm offline in

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Designer
Bert Doorn wrote: I sense an utterly erroneous presumpton that the designer knows best what suits people they have never met. Bert - Isn't that what all good 'designers' do? The 'consumers' then decide if they like the design and whether they want it or not. There is little point in anyone

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Vincent Hasselgård
About 4-5 months ago they built a new national library here in Norway, the architects worked alot with making the place accesible for users with different disabilites. Essentially they did everything wrong. The biggest mistake was of course not to talk with anyone blind or in a wheelchair. There

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Designer
Vincent Hasselgård wrote: When it comes to font-sizes I'd really like to blame the browsers. I don't think it's up to us to provide tools for enlarging or shrinking fonts, just like it's not up to newspapers to provide a spyglass with every paper. Both Windows and MacOS are shipped with

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Designer wrote: Maybe 'provider' is a better term than designer. Or Georg's term : 'Web carpenter' is more to the point here. Depends on what you put into that term... :-) A good carpenter should know how to do his/her job in order to make a building functional for inhabitants and visitors,

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Felix Miata
Designer wrote Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:06:36 +: Bert Doorn wrote Sat, 18 Feb 2006 00:22:22 +0800: I sense an utterly erroneous presumpton that the designer knows best what suits people they have never met. Bert - Isn't that what all good 'designers' do? The 'consumers' then decide if

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Bert Doorn wrote: To use similarly strong wording, I sense an utterly erroneous presumpton that the designer knows best what suits people they have never met. A Designer gets paid to understand their audience. The vast majority of users, even those working in high-tech firms here in Silicon

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Felix Miata
Hassan Schroeder wrote Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:21:36 -0800: The vast majority of users, even those working in high-tech firms here in Silicon Valley, *never* change *any* settings -- of the OS or any applications -- from the supplied defaults. Where is the data that backs up this assertion? Why

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Felix Miata wrote: The vast majority of users, even those working in high-tech firms here in Silicon Valley, *never* change *any* settings -- of the OS or any applications -- from the supplied defaults. Where is the data that backs up this assertion? That assertion is based on my experience

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Bert Doorn
Hassan Schroeder wrote: Felix Miata wrote: The vast majority of users, even those working in high-tech firms here in Silicon Valley, *never* change *any* settings -- of the OS or any applications -- from the supplied defaults. Where is the data that backs up this assertion? That

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Christian Montoya
On 2/18/06, Vincent Hasselgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My argument: Newspapers comes out with fixed font-size, but people who's got low vision may very easily use a spyglass to read easier. People in need of a spyglass gets themselves one. The same thing applies to web and computers, it's

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Christian Montoya wrote: How many websites do we come across with some Java or server-side option to increase text size? It's almost as common as the XHTML and CSS validator links. Is it really useful? No, not really... Completely agree. how about if these sites had a link to a page that

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Felix Miata
Patrick H. Lauke wrote Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:00:21 +: But is it our job as web *content* developers to teach our users how to use their browsers? The onus is on the browser developers to make their tools more intuitive and user friendly, and to expose that functionality to users in a much

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Designer
Christian Montoya wrote: [snip] How many websites do we come across with some Java or server-side option to increase text size? It's almost as common as the XHTML and CSS validator links. Is it really useful? No, not really... how about if these sites had a link to a page that explained how

[WSG] Site Check Please (Citinet Lending)

2006-02-18 Thread standards
Good afternoon, I'm currently in the process of designing a site that resides in a dev environment: http://dev5.headclerk.net/ It's CSS-driven and XHTML compliant. I make every effort to ensure that I use valid, well-formed semantically correct markup, but often I'm too close to the project to

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Felix Miata wrote: Nobody seems to want to take the first step on this. I doubt M$ will, so it's probably up to open source contributors to make the first move, but from what incentive? If you know any you can convince, here are two places to start:

Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes

2006-02-18 Thread David Hucklesby
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:21:36 -0800, Hassan Schroeder wrote: To ignore the fact that the most common browser has crap defaults and minimal resizing capability is to abdicate your responsibilities as a Designer. Hassan, With all due respect, I find that IE's default settings are just fine for

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Citinet Lending)

2006-02-18 Thread Justin Owens
Mario, Some of your CSS does not validate. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2warning=2uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdev5.headclerk.net%2F My only major issue with the design is the Upcoming Training background. There is not enough contrast between the type and the background for

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Citinet Lending)

2006-02-18 Thread kvnmcwebn
did you test it in firefox yet? In ff your footer seems to break way out of the wrapper. -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Citinet Lending)

2006-02-18 Thread kvnmcwebn
sorry please disregard that last observation i made about your footer breaking. i had another style sheet loaded into the page by accident looks good ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please (Citinet Lending)

2006-02-18 Thread standards
Thank you Justin! I've begun the process of fixing those errors. Respectfully, Mario Mario, Some of your CSS does not validate. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2warning=2uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdev5.headclerk.net%2F My only major issue with the design is the Upcoming

[WSG] flash z-index conflict

2006-02-18 Thread Ted Drake
Hi All Ive got a lovely flash container on the page that is conflicting with my lovely dropdown category box. Id like my lovely dropdown category box (dhtml with clean semantic code and fallback link so its all good!) to sit on top of my lovely flash movie (inserted with UFO - so its

Re: [WSG] Overflow and inheritance problems with a 2-column layout

2006-02-18 Thread Steve Olive
On 18/02/2006, at 4:09 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:Just a question: is it "xhtml 1.0 which may be served as xhtml and/orhtml" or "html with an xhtml DTD, lowercase and slashes, and served ashtml" you are recommending?I have no problems with the former since I use it all the time, but thelatter is

Re: [WSG] flash z-index conflict

2006-02-18 Thread Peter Ottery
Ted wrote: -- my lovely flash movie thinks it's the coolest thing on the planet and wants to sit on top of my lovely dropdown box. in the html code that calls your flash movie, add this: param name=WMode value=transparent let us know how you go pete ottery

[WSG] [CSS Question] Single Vs Multiple.

2006-02-18 Thread Andrew Brown
Hello WSG, I first have something to share and as well I have a question. Firstly I have been franticly book marking and today my professor found the ultimate bookmark. Some may have already come across it but thought I'd show just in case. Go here and say WOW. http://www.alvit.de/handbook/

Re: [WSG] flash z-index conflict

2006-02-18 Thread Sam Sherlock
I came across this the other day also . Since flash was colliding with my use of sweet titles. I was advised to set wmode to transparent, I works I am not begruding that but is there any logic to this. Surley wmode would just allow you to see through the flash object if set to transparent.

Re: [WSG] [CSS Question] Single Vs Multiple.

2006-02-18 Thread Christian Montoya
On 2/18/06, Andrew Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello WSG, I first have something to share and as well I have a question. Firstly I have been franticly book marking and today my professor found the ultimate bookmark. Some may have already come across it but thought I'd show just in case.

RE: [WSG] [CSS Question] Single Vs Multiple.

2006-02-18 Thread Andrew Brown
Thanks Christian, Thank you for your help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Montoya Sent: February 18, 2006 8:56 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] [CSS Question] Single Vs Multiple. On 2/18/06, Andrew

RE: [WSG] flash z-index conflict

2006-02-18 Thread Ted Drake
You Rawk! I haven't seen a diva put in here place like that since Julia Childs told Emeril his chicken was scrawny. For the record, here's my ufo script script type=text/javascript var FO = { movie:/images/home-flash-standin.png, width:710, height:250, majorversion:6, wmode:transparent,

Re: [WSG] flash z-index conflict

2006-02-18 Thread James Ellis
From memory i think that objects are displayed above everything else. Setting the wmode to transparent might work but if you have clickable widgets in the flash movie they will interfere with the dhtml? If it is anything in an object does this mean images as well? or is it just plug in content?

Re: [WSG] Overflow and inheritance problems with a 2-column layout

2006-02-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Steve Olive wrote: :-) pony below I guess it's just a matter of trying to keep up the good ideals and getting more designers on board with XHTML served as XHTML HTML. I'm actually surprised how many tutorials I see that use HTML 4.01 in computer magazines in 2006. If we can't convince

[WSG] Address Element

2006-02-18 Thread Miika Mäkinen
Dear WSG members, I'm a bit confused about the correct use for address-element. W3C documentation states that it should be used to supply contact information for a document or a major part of a document such as a form.. Now as I'm working on phone (and address) directories, I am currently using

Re: [WSG] Address Element

2006-02-18 Thread Christian Montoya
On 2/19/06, Miika Mäkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear WSG members, I'm a bit confused about the correct use for address-element. W3C documentation states that it should be used to supply contact information for a document or a major part of a document such as a form.. Now as I'm working on

Re: [WSG] Address Element

2006-02-18 Thread Miika Mäkinen
Christian, that's what I kinda thought. Still, what struct me on the definition is or a major part of a document such as a form. Now what is the major part of a document that lists contact information for one or multiple businesses? These documents are used to contact the listings, not the author.