[WSG] Two colum layout help

2006-03-07 Thread Hadley Rich
Hi all, I have been battling with this simple layout for a while and would really appreciate some help with it. Please ignore the colors/design etc. they are for illustration only. http://mail.nice.net.nz/test.html It works as I would like it to in Firefox/Konqueror but not in IE. I would

Re: [WSG] Two colum layout help

2006-03-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Hadley Rich wrote: http://mail.nice.net.nz/test.html It works as I would like it to in Firefox/Konqueror but not in IE. I would love the 'Some Header' in the right column to align vertically with the top of the 'Other Links' and be fluid. Adding... #content_container {_height: 0;} ...or

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Al Kendall
Lachlan, The attached pic is a screen shoot from IE 6. Firefox 1.5 was fine...CheersAlOn 3/7/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: http://lachy.id.au/dev/2006/03/fieldset On OS X 10.4.5 Firefox 1.5, Camino - latest nightly trunk build, iCab 3.0, Safari 2.03 and

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Al Kendall wrote: The attached pic is a screen shoot from IE 6. Firefox 1.5 was fine Yes, I know. I think you misread my e-mail. I knew it was broken in IE6, I'm looking for a way to fix it. Any ideas? -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Nuno Gaspar
There is another example and a way of do it...It´s in portuguese my native, but if you follow the cod it´s easy, and pretty-- http://www.artideias.com

Re: [WSG] Two colum layout help

2006-03-07 Thread Hadley Rich
On Tuesday 07 March 2006 22:34, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: ...will make IE/win play along. These 'hasLayout'[1] triggers will not be accepted by the W3C CSS validator, but IE/win needs them. Use 'conditional comments' if you want to hide them from the validator. Georg

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lachlan Hunt wrote: The following test case demonstrates how I want it to look and my current solution that works in Firefox. Both examples in the page should look roughly identical http://lachy.id.au/dev/2006/03/fieldset Don't know, but the following addition makes it look pretty ok in

[WSG] targeting link class problem

2006-03-07 Thread kvnmcwebn
hello, How would i target a:hover on the following links? I tried a few things but cant get down to the classes(one, two). div id=navcontainershort ul li a href=# class=onebla bla/a/li li a href=# class=twobla/a/li

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Darren West
I would advise against * html hacks though - http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2005_12.html#a000598Daz On 07/03/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lachlan Hunt wrote: The following test case demonstrates how I want it to look and my current solution that works in Firefox.Both

RE: [WSG] targeting link class problem

2006-03-07 Thread Mike Foskett
Hey Kev, #navcontainershort a.one:hover {} #navcontainershort a.two:hover {} Should access them specifically Mike Mike Foskett Web Standards, Accessibility Testing Consultant Communications British

Re: [WSG] targeting link class problem

2006-03-07 Thread Joshua Street
On 3/7/06, kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would i target a:hover on the following links? I tried a few things but cant get down to the classes(one, two). div id=navcontainershort ul li a href=# class=onebla bla/a/li

Re: [WSG] targeting link class problem

2006-03-07 Thread russ - maxdesign
div id=navcontainershort ul li a href=# class=onebla bla/a/li li a href=# class=twobla/a/li Start by thinking of the path from the body to the element you are trying to select. In this case the path (we don't know

Re: [WSG] targeting link class problem

2006-03-07 Thread kvnmcwebn
thanks russ and crew, my mistake was that i was putting the class first... like this .one ul li a:hover{ background-color: #88CAEF; } -kevin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] Vertical positioning of text

2006-03-07 Thread White Ash
Hello ~ Im trying to avoid tables (for once!) and make a header that has several columns in it. I think Im very close! However, I want to be able to vertically align the text contained in the #headtitle div on the bottom and the #headnav1 and #headnav2 divs in the middle. I have looked

Re: [WSG] Vertical positioning of text

2006-03-07 Thread Nuno Gaspar
This was a very popular problem, there some ways to try to substitute that lack...U could see some were http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/msg26048.html -- http://www.artideias.com

Re: [WSG] Vertical positioning of text

2006-03-07 Thread adam LEAPER
hey, I just had a quick look, its 2am so i should really get to sleep, I tried changing the styles a bit, I been designing for year so I dont know if this is the right way. I made the banner position:relative, so it makes any absolute inside the div absolute from the relative diveven though

[WSG] Dropped IE6 float

2006-03-07 Thread Barrie North
Hi all, I have a strange float that is dropping... http://www.compassdesigns.net/resources/wsgtest.html The layout is straight out of Dan Cedarholm/s Bulletproof, a simple nested float. However, in IE6, something strange occurs ("surely not!" I hear you say). As you reduce the page

RE: [WSG] Dropped IE6 float

2006-03-07 Thread Barrie North
Stranger and stranger, If I add a border to #wrap and move the margin to body, it is fixed. body {text-align:center;margin:0 10%;}#wrap {border:1px #fff solid;text-align:left;} Trouble is, this fix won't work for me as I can't have a border on that element for my application, even a

Re: [WSG] Collapsing columns on liquid design

2006-03-07 Thread David Hucklesby
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] said: I am working on a liquid design of a website. The design fits fine into 800x600 and starts expanding beyond that. The problem I am facing is that I want a 10 pixel border to appear on the left and right of the design if the browser window is larger than

[WSG] Web projects for students?

2006-03-07 Thread Tom Worthington
Any suggestions on web projects for my students this year http://www.tomw.net.au/2005/wd/? In the past I have got them to redesign the TV guide for the Transact digital set top box http://www.tomw.net.au/2002/transact.html, check the usability of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Web site

Re: [WSG] Dropped IE6 float

2006-03-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Barrie North wrote: Stranger and stranger, I have a strange float that is dropping... http://www.compassdesigns.net/resources/wsgtest.html Try adding... #sidebar-2 { margin-left: -3px; } ...which will provide IE/win with some playroom for its rounding-bugs without really changing

Re: [WSG] Web projects for students?

2006-03-07 Thread Ric Raftis
Tom Worthington wrote: Any suggestions on web projects for my students this year http://www.tomw.net.au/2005/wd/? G'day Tom, Could I suggest that quality projects present themselves quite easily in the form of non profit organisations. There are many of these around as we all know and

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Seona Bellamy
On 07/03/06, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would advise against * html hacks though - http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2005_12.html#a000598 Daz On 07/03/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know, but the following addition makes it look pretty ok in my IE6...* html

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Seona Bellamy wrote: On 07/03/06, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would advise against * html hacks though - http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2005_12.html#a000598 I tend to disagree with such nonsense. * html is a completely safe filter to use now that we know IE7 will not be

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Paul Novitski
At 02:29 PM 3/7/2006, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Seona Bellamy wrote: On 07/03/06, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would advise against * html hacks though - http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2005_12.html#a000598 I tend to disagree with such nonsense. With all due respect, Lachlan,

star hack and IE 7 (was Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements)

2006-03-07 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Darren West wrote: I would advise against * html hacks though - http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2005_12.html#a000598 The * html hack will not pose a problem as long as IE 7 fixes its other bugs and inconsistencies (it will just ignore the * html like other good browsers, and -

star hack and IE 7 (was Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements)

2006-03-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul Novitski wrote: These coincidental clusters of bugs vary from one version of a browser to the next which is why so many hacks are version-dependent. Like browser-sniffing, relying on them makes for fragile code. You can get away with using them for the time being, but where's the long

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Ben Buchanan
I would advise against * html hacks though - http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2005_12.html#a000598 Personally I think building/testing/making long-term strategy for a beta-version browser is not advisable. We will not know what IE7 can and can't do until it is actually released. Until

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Paul Novitski wrote: Using conditional comments to work around IE's bugs is coding for the future. Personally, I have an aversion for adding cruft that only works in a specific browser family to my HTML, which should be browser agnostic. Sure, it validates, but it's just proprietary browser

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:02 PM 3/7/2006, Ben Buchanan wrote: Conditional comments are a hack - an ugly, inefficient hack at that. Planning for the future includes the thought hey, when IE6 becomes irrelevant, I'm going to have to edit every single HTML document I've got to remove this bloat!. My point was simply

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Paul Novitski wrote: My point was simply that IE's conditional comments -- and ugly they are, no argument there -- are more likely to work as intended in a few years than hacks like * html. * html hacks will continue to work in IE6 forever, just as they do today. We already know this filter

[WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Ross
Hi,I have a question about something IE6 is doing that Firefox1.5 is not. (I know... no surprise !)I have checked, but must have overlooked the solution to this one...On this page... http://www.hudsonantiquecarclub.com/index.htmlIE6 adds an reverse indent just under the header Monthly Meetings

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Lachlan Hunt wrote: * html hacks will continue to work in IE6 forever, just as they do today. We already know this filter has been fixed in IE7 (standards mode), and so the following are exactly equivalent: !--[if lte IE 6] ... ![end if]-- * html foo { ... } I think it worth mentioning

RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?

2006-03-07 Thread Scott Swabey
Kevin wrote On this page... http://www.hudsonantiquecarclub.com/index.html IE6 adds an reverse indent just under the header Monthly Meetings Hi Kevin Adding a couple extra pixels to the #content_home right margin should fix things up. Regards Scott Swabey Design Development Director

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I think it worth mentioning that the * html hack works in IE *Mac* too. What about conditional comments? I don't think that really matters much anyway, since IE Mac is officially obsolete (i.e. now completely unsupported by Microsoft) and I think some unwanted hacks

RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?

2006-03-07 Thread Jason Turnbull
Kevin Ross wrote: http://www.hudsonantiquecarclub.com/index.html IE6 adds an reverse indent just under the header Monthly Meetings (Paragraph starting Rudy's...) Is this to do with the thumbnail to the left? Known as the 3 pixel text-jog

Re: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Mar 8, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Jason Turnbull wrote: http://www.hudsonantiquecarclub.com/index.html IE6 adds an reverse indent just under the header Monthly Meetings (Paragraph starting Rudy's...) Is this to do with the thumbnail to the left? Known as the 3 pixel text-jog

Re: [WSG] Styling Fieldset and Legend Elements

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Mar 8, 2006, at 2:48 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Thierry Koblentz wrote: I think it worth mentioning that the * html hack works in IE *Mac* too. What about conditional comments? I don't think that really matters much anyway, since IE Mac is officially obsolete (i.e. now completely

RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?

2006-03-07 Thread Jason Turnbull
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: ul a, ul, li, #content_home {height: 1%;} /* Holly hack fix for IE bugs */ That is a bit radical... giving all those element 'layout' can possibly cause more problems than it fixes. In this case: /* - hide form IE Mac - \*/ * html #content_contain {height:1%}