RE: [WSG] display issue in IE7

2007-11-29 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Hi Taco, Try getting rid of the HEIGHT: 3em from: FORM#search-main LI { CLEAR: left; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.5em; PADDING-TOP: 0.5em; HEIGHT: 3em } In power.css Regards, Kepler -Original Message- From: Taco Fleur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WSG] Markup question

2007-11-29 Thread Ted Drake
I would agree with this. The numbering is not truly ordinal and you'll possibly want to add sub elements in the future. Further, I would agree that a definition list is more appropriate that too many headings. dl dtblah blah blah/dt ddem1./em text/dd ddem2./em /dl Now, this can be modified. You

RE: [WSG] display issue in IE7

2007-11-29 Thread Taco Fleur
Hi Kepler, You're a legend. Wonder why I put that in there in the first place... Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kepler Gelotte Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 6:24 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] display

RE: [WSG] display issue in IE7

2007-11-29 Thread Taco Fleur
You wouldn't happen to know why (again in IE7) on http://development.clickfind.com.au:777/ The states overlap the row below when expanding OR click to search by state -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kepler Gelotte Sent: Thursday, 29

RE: [WSG] Disabling Fonts in Font Stacks

2007-11-29 Thread James Leslie
Thanks everyone for your responses to this. I might give the stylish extension a try or just stick to removing them by hand in the web developer extension. The font declarations I was looking at have all been sized as percentages and ems rather than pixels, I was just interested in how different

Re: [WSG] Disabling Fonts in Font Stacks

2007-11-29 Thread Tony Crockford
On 29 Nov 2007, at 10:46, James Leslie wrote: Thanks everyone for your responses to this. I might give the stylish extension a try or just stick to removing them by hand in the web developer extension. Sorry, bit late to the party, but FontExplorer X allows you to activate and

[WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2007-11-29 Thread Robert Love
Could use JavaScript to number your paragraphs: http://signified.net/test/ * From: John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:19:01 +1000 Subject: Markup question I have to mark up a club constitution where all

[WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Tate Johnson
Greetings, I'm in the process of representing the date in Roman Numerals. I'm concerned this may confuse potential users, and would like to display an optional tooltip in the standard Gregorian format. Would it be considered semantically appropriate to make use of the abbr tag? abbr

Re: [WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2007-11-29 Thread liorean
On 29/11/2007, Robert Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could use JavaScript to number your paragraphs: http://signified.net/test/ Another alternative is to use disjoint ol elements with start attributes (or alternatively first child li element with value attribute). Both these attributes are

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Nov 29, 2007 3:48 PM, Tate Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the process of representing the date in Roman Numerals. I'm concerned this may confuse potential users, and would like to display an optional tooltip in the standard Gregorian format. Would it be considered

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread E Michael Brandt
How about dfn title=Year 2007MMVII/dfn ? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia --

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Patrick Lauke
Matthew Pennell It's not an abbreviated form of the full date by any stretch of the imagination. Tell that to the microformats crowd - they've practically stretched the idea of abbreviation to anything, just so they can fit their machine readable data into the page... Why not just use a

[WSG] Javascript based ASP Form Mail script?

2007-11-29 Thread James O'Neill
Greetings all, Does anyone know of a solid and robust Javascript based ASP Form Mail script that outputs a compliant confirmation email as well? Thanx *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Tate, I'm in the process of representing the date in Roman Numerals. I'm concerned this may confuse potential users, and would like to display an optional tooltip in the standard Gregorian format. Would it be considered semantically appropriate to make use of the abbr tag? Or

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Patrick Lauke
E Michael Brandt How about dfn title=Year 2007MMVII/dfn ? I think this may stretch the meaning of DFN. A defining instance is the occurrence of the term where the term is defined. It does not enclose the actual definition. It also should only occur once per page for each defined term. P

Re: [WSG] Javascript based ASP Form Mail script?

2007-11-29 Thread Joseph Taylor
You're better off asking your web host about that one. ASP usually needs a 3rd party component to send email reliably. I've seen CDONTS turned off many times. My old ASP scripts use the SmartMail component which has been discontinued by the creator. If you mean ASP.NET thats another story.

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Frank Palinkas
May I just follow on to Patrick's astute advice. A very common misconception standards/accessibility designers/developers have is that the title attribute, regardless of the element it resides in, is turned on/activated by default in most assistive technology devices. It's not. From my experience

Re: [WSG] Javascript based ASP Form Mail script?

2007-11-29 Thread James O'Neill
I work for a small county government and we own and manage our own servers. CDONT's is easy for us to implement right now. We are in the process of looking for a CMS and that will hopefully handle it once we get there. Jim . ***

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Hi Tate, I came across this article: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hattrick Which recommends using the dfn tag: Roman numerals Another good application for this trick is the Roman numeral. We want to make sure our Roman numerals are accessible to users who are unfamiliar or have

[WSG] A Google contest for highschoolers that is very relevant to this list

2007-11-29 Thread Sigurd Magnusson
We've been collaborating with Google on an extension to their successful Google Summer of Code program, producing the Google Highly Open Participation Contest. Aimed to illustrate to our next generation in the industry on the virtues of collaboration, open standards, and freedom of

[WSG] A Google contest for highschoolers that is very relevant to this list

2007-11-29 Thread Sigurd Magnusson
We've been collaborating with Google on an extension to their successful Google Summer of Code program, producing the Google Highly Open Participation Contest. Aimed to illustrate to our next generation in the industry on the virtues of collaboration, open standards, and freedom of

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
It's not an abbreviated form of the full date by any stretch of the imagination. Tell that to the microformats crowd - they've practically stretched the idea of abbreviation to anything, just so they can fit their machine readable data into the page... Exactly, and this is the kind

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread E Michael Brandt
I agree. However it does have a slightly better semantic meaning than abbr, since we are really translating from one language to another here, not expanding an abbreviation, and surely more meaning than span. Patrick Lauke wrote: E Michael Brandt How about dfn title=Year 2007MMVII/dfn ?

Accessibility issues of microformats (was Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals)

2007-11-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I agree with this hCalendar issue [2]: The use of abbr for dates is incorrect. August 5th, 2004 is not the abbreviation of 2004-09-05. In fact, the opposite is closer to the truth. But it was rejected as false statement. It says See this article for an explanation of

[WSG] RE: Disabling Fonts in Font Stacks

2007-11-29 Thread Kroon.Kurtis
-Original Message- From: Tony Crockford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:53:23 + Subject: Re: [WSG] Disabling Fonts in Font Stacks On 29 Nov 2007, at 10:46, James Leslie wrote: Thanks everyone for your responses to this. I might give the stylish extension a try or just

Re: [WSG] Disabling Fonts in Font Stacks

2007-11-29 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:23:25 -, James Leslie wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way of disabling a font at the browser level, maybe a firefox plug-in, to be able to do quick checks on legibility, sizing issues, layout, etc. Sorry I am a bit late -- but Opera's web developer

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Tate Johnson
On 30/11/2007, at 3:29 AM, Kepler Gelotte wrote: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hattrick Which recommends using the dfn tag: Roman numerals Another good application for this trick is the Roman numeral. We want to make sure our Roman numerals are accessible to users who are unfamiliar

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Geoff Pack
Since they're Roman numerals, shouldn't there be a lang=la in there somewhere? Geoff. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: