[WSG] Usability for downloading documents

2008-01-28 Thread Tony
Hello, I have a situation where there are links to download additional documents from a page (word/pdf/etc) and the boss has requested that we force the user to download them, since the user (in his opinion) may have trouble printing/saving the documents if they open up inside the browser (wh

RE: [WSG] Usability for downloading documents

2008-01-28 Thread Patrick Lauke
> Should we be making this decision for the user though? If, by > default, > PDFs open within the browser, then won't we be changing their user > experience by forcing them to open/save? In principle yes, but because so many other sites have "worked around" this issue (usually by opening new w

Re: [WSG] Usability for downloading documents

2008-01-28 Thread Rochester oliveira
I think that you should make 2 buttons. The user will choice for download or just read the documment []'s - Rochester Oliveira http://webbemfeita.com/ "Viva a Web-Bem-Feita" Web Designer Curitiba - PR - Brasil **

Re: [WSG] Usability for downloading documents

2008-01-28 Thread Rochester oliveira
Doesn't have a way to force the "don't" download? Or you may force download as pdf and make a jpg() for the "preview" :) 2 buttons for the same action will be a problem for sure. 2008/1/28, Christian Snodgrass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Wording that would be really tricky, because if they're def

Re: [WSG] Usability for downloading documents

2008-01-28 Thread Christian Snodgrass
Wording that would be really tricky, because if they're default action is to download it, when they hit "Read" they'd expect it to just open, not offer them a download prompt. There are a lot of people that would be agitated that both buttons do the same thing. Rochester oliveira wrote: I thin

Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

2008-01-28 Thread Christian Snodgrass
Usually, it is something simple like trying to use a DOCTYPE of XHTML, with the extension html or whatever, and your server is, in reality, serving it up as text/html. Basically, you need to make sure that your server either: a) assumes no MIME type, or b) use an extension like .xhtml and tell

Re: [WSG] Usability for downloading documents

2008-01-28 Thread James Ellis
Hi Tony On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:07:06 am Tony wrote: > Hello, > > If, by default, > PDFs open within the browser, then won't we be changing their user > experience by forcing them to open/save? > > Regards, > > Tony Not really, the current position of "inline" PDF and other documents in probably

[WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Freedman
G'day, I see this warning often when using the W3C validator and figured I must be doing something wrong, but as it is a warning I never bothered looking into it. Now I've seen it on the results from this site so it has roused my curiosity. Can some explain to me why this is occurring and

[WSG] Explorer woes with list dropdowns

2008-01-28 Thread Shane Helm
Hello fellow web standard groupies. I have built a dropdown menu using lists. It works in Firefox and Safari but doesn't seem to work in IE6 or 7. Any suggestions? http://www.treasurehillskihomes.com/TESTING/navtest.html Greatly appreciated! Shane Helm www.sonze.com

Re: [WSG] Explorer woes with list dropdowns

2008-01-28 Thread Shane Helm
Seems I got it working in IE 6. The background color cannot be the same for the css from .menus a, .menus :visited and from .menus :hover the two values must be different, or the script wont work. Can anyone confirm it is working in IE 7? http://www.treasurehillskihomes.com/TESTING/navtest.h

Re: [WSG] Explorer woes with list dropdowns

2008-01-28 Thread Karl Lurman
IE6 doesn't respect the *:hover pseudo selector if I remember rightly... It only supports it for anchors, e.g a:hover You may have to look at a small bit of javascript to 'activate' this behavior. Im pretty sure this is your problem for IE browsers. Karl On Jan 29, 2008 2:52 PM, Shane Helm <[EM

Re: [WSG] Explorer woes with list dropdowns

2008-01-28 Thread John Faulds
IE6 doesn't respect the *:hover pseudo selector if I remember rightly... It only supports it for anchors, e.g a:hover You may have to look at a small bit of javascript to 'activate' this behavior. No, because he's using one of Stu Nicholl's js-free menus. The trade off is a lot of IE conditi

Re: [WSG] Explorer woes with list dropdowns

2008-01-28 Thread Matt Fellows
A JavaScript function that you might be interested in is called the 'Suckerfish' technique. It is a well known problem that IE is difficult at best in these situations so to avoid lots of css hacks etc. you can use a little bit of JS instead. It's accessible, standards compliant and easy to use. T

Re: [WSG] Explorer woes with list dropdowns

2008-01-28 Thread Karl Lurman
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/video-digital-cloud-invades-british-airways-first-class-lounge-at-heathrow On Jan 29, 2008 3:40 PM, Karl Lurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IE6 doesn't respect the *:hover pseudo selector if I remember > rightly... It only supports it for anchors, e

Re: [WSG] Explorer woes with list dropdowns

2008-01-28 Thread Karl Lurman
Oops * 2 1st oops for sending the link to the WSG instead of my IM conversation (Damn Google Talk!!!) - Its a pretty cool video though... 2nd oops for looking at Shanes code in Firebug instead of by viewing the source! Karl *** Lis

Re: [WSG] Usability for downloading documents

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Knowles
Tony wrote: Should we be making this decision for the user though? If, by default, PDFs open within the browser, then won't we be changing their user experience by forcing them to open/save? Yes, I think we should make this decision. It's in the users best interests IMO. And by doing this

Re: [WSG] Usability for downloading documents

2008-01-28 Thread David Dorward
On 28 Jan 2008, at 18:04, Rochester oliveira wrote: Doesn't have a way to force the "don't" download? It is difficult to make a PDF open in a plugin if the user doesn't have that plugin installed. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *

Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

2008-01-28 Thread David Dorward
On 28 Jan 2008, at 23:22, Andrew Freedman wrote: I see this warning often when using the W3C validator and figured I must be doing something wrong, but as it is a warning I never bothered looking into it. Now I've seen it on the results from this site so it has roused my curiosity. Can s